If You Elect Idiots, You Get Chaos

Our Israeli correspondent MC takes a look at the traditional Islamophilia of the British foreign service, and the relationship over the years between its love affair with all things Arab and various fashionable forms of socialism.

St. John (Jack) Philby in Riyadh
St. John (Jack) Philby in Riyadh

If you elect idiots, you get chaos
Elite Britain’s love affair with Islam

by MC

I was brought up in a culture that regarded Islam as exotic and erotic: belly dancing and handsome Sheiks in desert hideaways complete with full symphony orchestras and Oxford English accents.

My aunt lived in El Beida, close to Benghazi in Libya. Her story was different: Islam was squalid, dirty and disgusting. She was horrified when her daughter’s playmate, aged nine, was married off to a ‘rich’ fifty-year-old.

Later, in my teens, when I started to read non-fiction and history, I came across more evidence of the second scenario than of the first, but the ‘El Khobar’ idea appears to have persisted in many minds.

This was brought home to me last time I was in Riyadh, when a European acquaintance brought up the idea of how alluring a female clad in an abayah (tent-like, black female attire mandatory in KSA) complete with face mask could be. Full of the ‘Eastern’ promise no doubt. In my personal viewpoint, she is a woman imprisoned by a male pervert-dominated culture. I prefer bikinis to burkas.

We had just been to the beach at Khobar, where the little boys were splashing in the sea as children do at any beach. Their sisters, however, were sitting on the sand, attired in their abayahs, watching.

Little girls cannot play active games in an abayah; they might expose parts of themselves that could stimulate good Muslim men to lust. So their little six-year-old bodies do not see the sun (in public) and they must sit demurely watching their brothers play in the sea and the sand.

Apart from the Foreign and Colonial Office, Britain had little love for Islam in the 1890s. The Afghan wars and Khartoum had brought graphic descriptions of what happened to soldiers and civilians who fell into the hands of Islam.

By contrast, in India, the FCO training ground, it was the Hindus who caused cause major grief to the British Raj and its servants, by virtue of the ‘caste’ system which made dealings with Indian nobility fraught with problems. The British had tried to eliminate the practice of suttee (the immolation of wives in the funeral pyre of their husbands). Wives could choose suttee, or as an alternative, to become the house slave of their in-laws. Most wives chose the former — it was probably more comfortable, and certainly quicker.

With typical clumsiness, the British administration made suttee illegal, but did not deal with the alternative. Thus a low-key religious conflict began which soured relationships and eventually lead to the Indian mutiny and the Gandhi-inspired ‘non-violence’ of the 1920s during which many thousands lost their lives. Through all of this the Indian Muslims remained infinitely easier to manage and administer than their Hindu compatriots.

We thus find that many FCO officers had a soft spot for Islam, with the next generation even converting to Islam; note this piece from Wikipedia concerning Jack Philby:

As he states in his autobiography, he “became something of a fanatic” and “the first Socialist to join the Indian Civil Service” in 1907, and was posted to Lahore in the Punjab in 1908. He acquired fluency in Urdu, Punjabi, Baluchi, Persian, and eventually Arabic languages. Philby married Dora Johnston, his first wife, in September 1910,[3] with his distant cousin Bernard Law Montgomery as best man. He also later married an Arab woman from Saudi Arabia. He had one son, Kim, later a British intelligence agent infamous as a double agent for the Soviet Union, and three daughters.[4]

And:

In November 1921, Philby was named chief head of the Secret Service for the British Mandate of Palestine, or what is now the region of The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan (formerly The Emirate of Transjordan) and Israel. He worked with T. E. Lawrence for a while, but did not share Lawrence’s views on the Hashemites. Here he met his American counterpart, Allen Dulles, who was stationed in Constantinople.

Philby was fairly typical of his era, and was virulently anti-Semitic. He worked against Jewish emigration into the Jewish Homeland, and was in contact with and the protecting power behind Haj Amin al Husseini (founder of El Fatah/PLO), eventually being dismissed from the FCO for sexual impropriety. Like his son, he was also a traitor, working on alliances between Saudi Arabia and the Nazis. Between the wars, there was little distinction between Communism and the Fascist Socialism of the likes of Philby; they were deemed one and the same thing, thus the co-operation between Stalin and the Nazis up to 1941 was not as unexpected then as it would be now.

By the time we get to Labour Party (socialist) FCO Secretary Ernest Bevin in 1945, we have a Colonial Office who have completely trashed the British Mandate and are encouraging Arab immigration into the Jewish areas of Palestine. The British actively supported the Arab cause in the 1948 War of Independence, providing manpower, intelligence and materiel to the invading Arab forces. We also find RAF aircraft from Egypt overflying Israeli territory, possibly supporting the Egyptian and/or Jordanian forces.

In the 1960s British socialism began to morph into a form of non-nationalistic fascism. The truth about Stalinism had caused a split in the Communist Party of Great Britain, and it swung to a more Trotskyist line. At the same time there was a greater acceptance of the once overtly fascist Muslim Brotherhood; Al Banna’s sympathies with Berlin and the Nazis are well documented. In the mid-fifties, at primary school, we had been taught what would now be deemed white supremacist history. By the time I attended University in the late sixties, enforced multiculturalism (non-nationalistic fascism) was in and patriotic nationalism was out.

Fascism and Stalinism are as different as 7up and Sprite; the main difference being the shape of the bottle. Both sought to use Islam for its own purposes. In 1968 that Enoch Powell’s unfortunate quote from Virgil (“and the Tiber foaming with much blood”) in his ‘Rivers of Blood’ speech during the debate on the Race Relations Bill in Parliament triggered a huge backlash in Britain.

Enoch Powell became the byword for ‘racism’ and discussions of ‘race’ became taboo.

There followed twenty years in which many of the immigration safeguards were loosened and a wave of mainly Muslim immigrants appeared in our cities. All immigrants received religious tolerance, but the Muslims wanted more: they wanted religious dominance, and were prepared to play the ‘racism’ card to get it, even though Islam is not a race indicator.

Unfortunately, there is a fashionable breed of pseudo-intellectualism that perceives culture as unimportant, and believes that barbaric and backward religions are far more interesting than the mundanity of Christianity. To them, Islam is exotic and thus attractively diverse. If one is culturally complacent, then there is no inherent threat in Islam; forcible conversion is not a spectre of horror. So the liberal left has adopted Islam and Muslims as one of its favourite ‘victim’ groups, failing to see any threat in the inherent violence of Islam as (lots of votes now too).

In the modern Judaeo-Christian culture, violence is focussed and is generally not tolerated outside of a specific need to defend the individual and the community, and then only with the minimum violence necessary. The Christian Godhead does not need to be defended; He can do that for Himself.

Muslims, on the other hand, are encouraged to violently defend both faith and God(s) at all times and in all circumstances where Allah and especially the Prophet are threatened. The definition of ‘threaten’ in these circumstances is broader than most Westerners understand, and may include any existential phenomena running contrary to current Islamic philosophy. Thus a Christmas tree is a threat to Islam because it is an icon of Christianity, and therefore somehow a temptation to good Muslims.

A 12-year-old girl seeking an education is a ‘threat’ to Islam, and must be violently eliminated.

The political classes in UK all appear to have a complete lack of cultural clarity, and as a consequence they are gullible. They look and think they see a religion of ‘peace’ when they are already victims in the Islamic ‘house of war’. They are already paying the first dues of dhimmitude, those of submission.

The alternative is that there is a covert higher order controlling the supposedly democratic UK government, one that wants to break the British culture and identity, and sees Islam as a useful tool to achieve this end. Who knows? Maybe the conspiracy theory is correct after all.

Either way, if you elect idiots, you get chaos.

An Apology to Our Donors

For quite some time I’ve been contemplating the necessity of writing this post. Or rather of having to write it eventually, because surely the next day would be better than this one. And the next; and then the one after that… and suddenly by some magic process I’d be back to my old self and writing thank you acknowledgments as I used to do.

I’m told this is a common fantasy for people with fibromyalgia: each day we hope we’ll be better tomorrow, or the day after, or next week, or maybe next month, or perhaps with this next new diet or vitamin. What fools us are the unpredictable and all too-brief times of remission.

In a way, “fibro fog” (the name they give our inability to remember people, places, events, etc.) can be a blessing because it can be hard to recall what we’ve lost. But when we suddenly have, without rhyme or reason, a remission of pain and fatigue, and when our ability to think returns, we’re sooo certain it’s all over. Suddenly we have the energy to catch up on all the things we’d left undone. Back in the beginning when this disorder is first setting in most of us don’t believe it’s chronic. So we continue with our “To Do” lists as though our routines will soon resume their ‘normal’ outlines. It is only when the task of actually writing up those lists becomes a source of frustration and shame that we begin to comprehend the devastation we’re living. The first few remissions followed by relapses are disorienting, both for us and for people who are not yet used to our strange levels of dysfunction — “but you don’t look sick…”

All of which is to say this out loud — in fact the time for admitting the truth to myself is past due and our donors certainly deserve an explanation: my energy level will never again be what it was before the onset of fibromyalgia. I will never be a dependable correspondent. In fact, I will sometimes write to you and not remember that I did so. Despite the lists the Baron draws up for me, I sometimes have to preface a thank you note with , “I may already have told you this… ”

I never was big on reality, though, particularly when it came to accepting the limits of what I might accomplish. The Baron used to tell me that he was going to write on my forehead, “You Do Not Have To Do Everything Good Thing You Think Of”. He said he’d write it backwards so that when I looked in the mirror it would be a reminder of my Pollyanna tendencies to want to take care of every bit of suffering I came upon. That was before the onset of fibromyalgia; it’s not so bad now because while I may want to do something or other, I realize how far out of reach it has become. Besides, fibromyalgia isolates one, so I’m seldom out in company hearing about unmet needs. But when I am — whoo, boy!

Just yesterday the Baron took me to get my hair cut (driving isn’t a good idea when your reflexes are as slow as mine are and there are as many deer as we’re surrounded by). Before I left the beautician’s shop I was volunteering to help a woman who was considering homeschooling her youngest, a child who hates school and always has. I had no business being Miz Goody Two-Shoes when I don’t even have shoes (so to speak), but there you go. I doubt the worried mother is going to follow through on her desire to homeschool since she is part of a big clan who will give her grief if she attempts it. But there you go — Miz Dymphna to the Rescue… Again.

A long story just to tell our donors I haven’t forgotten you. Nor has the Baron. He is concerned about my inability to write more of the thank you notes since I enjoy that task. When he asks why I can suddenly post a comment here and there on the blog, I have to explain the difference. With our comment section, I have only to open the thread and say something. With thank you notes, I have to find my list, then ascertain where I left off, and then fully consider the person I’m writing, where they’re from, how often they’ve donated, and perhaps try to recall what I remember of previous conversations… with my memory, that’s… well, let’s say it’s a bit of a challenge.

In summary, you may hear from the Baron and not from me. That won’t bother y’all I’m sure — after all, he’s the engine that makes this website function. It frustrates me, though. He already does so much by himself, and this was one area I was able to accomplish and be of assistance. But that’s the nature of fibromyalgia: one’s areas of competencies shrink inexorably.

Surrender in the teeth of reality is a bitch a bite. In truth I don’t think I’m constitutionally capable of it. Let me tell you about this new diet I came across…

Gates of Vienna News Feed 1/7/2013

Gates of Vienna News Feed 1/7/2013According to an alarming new survey, Germany is being transformed from a racist society into an Islamophobic one. Instead of directing their hatred towards the “Turks”, Germans are now hateful of “Muslims”. Despite the best efforts of German Muslims, the overwhelming majority of whom are peaceful, more than two-thirds of Germans have a negative attitude towards Islam.

In other news, under pressure from the debt crisis, the Greek government substantially raised taxes on heating oil. With a record number of Greeks out of work, the move has priced fuel out of the reach of many ordinary citizens. The result has been a massive increase in the use of wood for heating homes, creating a smoggy cloud over Athens and putting a dangerous amount of particulate into the air.

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The Joys of Multiculturalism!

The German healthcare system is plagued, so to speak, by a new problem: a growing dearth of doctors who can speak German well enough to do their jobs effectively. The solution is obvious: German schools must begin teaching their students Urdu, Farsi, Arabic, Malay, and Tagalog so that they can more efficiently explain their symptoms to hospital personnel.

Many thanks to JLH for the translation from Quotenqueen:

The Joys of Multiculturalism!

Even our highly qualified immigrants cannot speak any German. “It is simply about a lack of competence in German on the part of medical doctors,” which, in the opinion of the president of the Berlin Chamber of Physicians, is becoming a serious problem in health care. Complaints are multiplying from patients who can no longer communicate with their doctor, said Chamber President Günther Jonitz on Monday, speaking with German Radio on Culture. “And head doctors report that they can by now only converse in German with one-third of their staff.” Oh, what the heck! Veterinarians and pediatricians can’t talk with their patients either.

Besides, we shouldn’t be so racist and demand that immigrants master the country’s language. After all, it’s hard.

Der Spiegel writes:

No, it is not technical jargon that separates many doctors from their patients. It is simply about a lack of competence in German on the part of medical doctors, which, in the opinion of the president of the Berlin Chamber of Physicians, is becoming a serious problem in health care. Complaints are multiplying from patients who can no longer communicate with their doctor, said Chamber President Günther Jonitz on Monday, speaking with German Radio on Culture. And head doctors report that they can by now only converse in German with one-third of their staff. “The risks are increasing,” warned the president of the Berlin Chamber of Physicians.

Because there is a shortage of doctors, more and more physicians from Eastern Europe, Greece, and even Arab countries are practicing in Germany — and frequently without decent language skills. According to previous statements of the Organization of Hospital Directors, the proportion of foreign assistant doctors, especially in smaller clinics, can be more than 50%.

“Really Lousy Healthcare Policy”

Jonitz, the President of the Berlin Chamber of Physicians, sees economizing in healthcare as the cause of this development. Thus [he says] a “really lousy healthcare policy” puts too much emphasis on numbers and economic yield and forgets the human beings in the system. But German doctors and nurses will not stand for that anymore: “Whoever can, leaves, goes to other countries and works there, where it is possible to be regarded as a doctor or nurse — Switzerland, Scandinavia, England, Holland — and these vacancies are filled by doctors from countries where it is much worse.”

The government and the healthcare politicians, on the contrary, see it as the duty of the medical organizations and clinics to arrange for better integration of immigrant doctors. At one time, the SPD politician Karl Lauterbach said that instead of being incorporated, foreign doctors were only used as stopgaps.

Clearly, we are to blame that immigrants do not adapt to the majority society of their adopted country, when they are unselfishly offering us their services. Other countries are not so stupid. But we are all for it. Ah, multiculturalism is so great!

The Turban and the Hijab for the Norwegian Police?

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An official state committee in Norway recommended today that police officers be allowed to wear the turban, the hijab, and other religious gear while on duty. A little while later, however — apparently after dipping a toe into the turbulent waters of public opinion — the Ministry of Culture announced that no such decision had been made.

Our Norwegian correspondent The Observer has translated an article about this morning’s announcement, and sends this commentary about the aborted decision and its aftermath:

I have translated a depressing article from today’s Dagbladet about the rapid deconstruction of Norway instigated by radical and dim-witted Norwegian multiculturalists and their allies. These brainwashed cultural relativists condescendingly berate their compatriots, who are worried about losing their identity and culture, that nonwestern immigration constitute absolutely no threat whatsoever to Norway and Norwegian culture.

Really?

Why then are all the cultural changes that are occurring in Norway at the moment justified with the rationale that Norway is becoming increasingly multicultural? The population of Norway was roughly 3.9 million when this immigration started in earnest in the late 60’s. As of now first- and second-generation immigrants number almost 900,000 and this number (mostly non-Western) is expected to grow by an additional 1,250,000 by 2040, according to figures released by the Norwegian bureau of statistics (SSB).

Talk about cognitive dissonance.

These dimwits even have the nerve to suggest that Norway doesn’t have a unique culture; everything has apparently been imported from abroad. Norwegians are a people without roots, customs and traditions, a terra nullius if you like.

Our first Muslim government minister, Hadia Tajik, who happens to be Minister of Culture, will have the last word in this matter. A couple of years ago when she was just a simple government department advisor, she anonymously co-authored a press release, without having the authority to do so, that boldly stated that hijab had been allowed as part of the uniform in the police force.

One doesn’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure out where this is going.

An update from The Observer at 11:00am EST:

Apparently Hadia Tajik, Norway’s Minister of Culture, has announced at a press conference just now that the hijab will not be allowed in the police force.

In my opinion this is not a decision that she has made herself, but is coming from someone higher up in the system. I presume that the response from the ‘peasants’ couldn’t be ignored (“we can’t afford to treat them too harshly in an election year”).

As I mentioned in my commentary to the translated article, Tajik wanted to allow the use of the hijab in 2009, when she co-authored a press release that declared it as an acceptable supplement to the police uniform.

I guess it’s still another couple of years down the track.

The translated article from Dagbladet:

Are considering allowing hijab and turban in the Norwegian police force

This is the conclusion of the Life-Stance Committee which will deliver its report to the Minister of Culture later today.

Judges and police officers should be allowed to wear hijabs and turbans while carrying out their duties concludes the Life-Stance Committee which will submit its report to the Minister of Culture on Monday.

It also proposes to replace traditional marriage ceremonies with civil unions.

Sturla Stålsett, who is an ordained priest, has led the Faith and Life-Stance Committee for the past two years. Along with a majority of twelve other committee members, he recommends that judges and police officers should be allowed to wear religious headgear. Only three committee members are opposed to the recommendations, writes Aftenposten.

There has been considerable political opposition to amending the police uniform regulations. The main argument is that the police and the judiciary must remain completely neutral. It is however permitted for soldiers in the military to use headgear such as hijabs, turbans and Jewish yarmulkes.

Disagrees

“I feel the same way now as I did when we passed the resolution at our national convention and which has been agreed upon unanimously in Parliament: It is important that those who exercise civil authority against individuals on behalf of the State come across as completely neutral. An in such instances they can’t wear a hijab or any other religious garments, but rather wear completely neutral clothing. And that means that police officer wear a uniform and judges wear a cloak,” says Jan Bøhler, the spokesperson for judicial matters for the Labour Party.

Politician and member of the AUF, Prableen Kaur agrees with the Committee:

“The Life-Stance Committee has taken into account that society is becoming more and more diverse, and that it is necessary to have a proper framework to encapsulate this diversity. It is a decision that reflects the times that we’re living in, and which are going to mirror tomorrow’s society in a more accurate manner,” she says.

The report will be presented to Minister of Culture, Hadia Tajik (AP — Labour Party) on Monday. The report also contains a number of other proposals that are likely to generate a debate, writes Vårt Land [“Our Country” — Christian newspaper].

Civil unions

The Life-Stance Commission wants a Norway that is open to all belief systems and where there is plenty of room for differences. The Committee wants to establish a clear principle in which national commemorations of mourning and celebrations are not delegated to any specific religious denomination.

“Faith and spirituality should not be feared or tucked away, but rather be allowed to express themselves visibly and naturally in opinions, attitudes and actions,” writes committee leader Sturla Stålsett in an op-ed in Vårt Land.

The Committee believes that religion should have a prominent position in society, but that the church shouldn’t be the master of ceremony at national commemorations. The Committee therefore wants civil unions to be the norm, rather than traditional weddings.

The committee also wants to ensure that arrangements such as traditional ‘church services’ for students’ don’t exclude other faith groups from inviting its students to religious services during school hours.

The committee also wants to sever the ties between the military and Christianity and the Norwegian Church. Faith should no longer be used to strengthen cohesion in a conflict situation, writes Stålsett in the op-ed.

Tommy Robinson Gets Ten Months

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Tommy Robinson, the leader of the English Defence League, appeared in court today on a charge of using a fake passport to enter the USA last September 11. He pleaded guilty, and was sentenced to ten months in jail.

There are several British MSM reports on today’s events, but as far as I could tell, up until now there was nothing in the media about Tommy’s arrest, denial of bail, and imprisonment without charge.

A further note: ten months is more than many offenders receive in the UK after being convicted of rape, assault, and other violent crimes.

Here’s the report from the BBC:

EDL leader Stephen Lennon jailed for false passport offence

The leader of the English Defence League has been jailed for 10 months for using someone else’s passport to travel to the USA.

Stephen Lennon, 30, from Luton, admitted possession of a false identity document with improper intention.

Lennon used a passport in the name of Andrew McMaster to board a Virgin Atlantic flight from Heathrow to New York, Southwark Crown Court was told.

He entered the US illegally then used his own passport to return to the UK.

Lennon had previously been refused entry to the US and used a friend’s passport to travel to the country in September.

He used a self check-in kiosk to board the flight at Heathrow and was allowed through when the document was checked in the bag-drop area.

But when Lennon arrived at New York’s JFK Airport, customs officials took his fingerprints and realised he was not travelling on his own passport.

Lennon was asked to attend a second interview but managed to leave the airport, entering the US illegally.

Previous convictions

He stayed one night and travelled back to the UK the following day using his own legitimate passport, which bears the name of Paul Harris.

Judge Alistair McCreath told him: “I am going to sentence you under the name of Stephen Lennon although I suspect that is not actually your true name, in the sense that it is not the name that appears on your passport.

“What I have to deal with you for is clear enough. You knew perfectly well that you were not welcome in the United States.

“You knew that because you tried before and you had not got in, and you knew the reason for that – because, rightly or wrongly, the US authorities do not welcome people in their country who have convictions of the kind that you have.

“With that full knowledge, you equipped yourself with a passport. I am told that it was given you by way of a loan from your friend Andrew McMaster, to which you bore, I am told, some resemblance.”

The judge added: “What you did went absolutely to the heart of the immigration controls that the United States are entitled to have.

“It’s not in any sense trivial.”

In mitigation, Lennon’s barrister Giles Cockings told the court the passport was not stolen and his client had only used it for a day.

Lennon was jailed for assault in 2005 and also has convictions for drugs offences and public order offences, the court heard.

Gates of Vienna News Feed 1/6/2013

Gates of Vienna News Feed 1/6/2013Our email service has returned, and the news feed is once again full. The backlog of email is incredible — it’s like I went away on vacation, except that I have no suntan or souvenirs to show for it. If you emailed us between Thursday night and this afternoon, and got a permanent bounce, you may need to resend the message.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel has found herself in hot water after being seen with several children in blackface during an Epiphany celebration. It is a Central European tradition for children to dress up as the Three Magi during such celebrations, and one of the magi is usually in blackface to symbolize the tradition that one of the kings was African. Some observers, however, consider the custom racist, and an inappropriate activity for a German chancellor.

In other news, relations between Egypt and the United Arab Emirates have worsened after the arrest of at least ten Egyptians in the UAE on charges of spying for the Muslim Brotherhood.

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A List of Shame

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The following article from Bild describes the inability of the German government to deport violent Lebanese criminals from the Federal Republic. As an interesting side note, the article asserts that 85% of the Lebanese living in Germany are dependent on long-term unemployment benefits.

Many thanks to Hermes for the translation:

The List of Shame

They are Lebanese criminals, but in spite of this they cannot be deported

A Lebanese clan in Germany

It was the list of shame — and it still is! Almost two years ago BILD reported that hundreds of Lebanese criminals living in Germany cannot be deported to their home country.

The reason for this is that Lebanon questions the citizenship of their own citizens and denies entry to them. BILD presents now a new and alarming list from the Interior Minister. This time, the list includes 207 extremely serious cases with convictions of more than one year in prison. Meanwhile there were 24 voluntary departures and 43 repatriations, but 51 new cases too about Lebanese serious criminals with no prospects for a quick deportation.

Some cases listed by BILD:

  • Rabih A. (28) is a member of a Lebanese clan known to the police. He has been convicted four times: 62 counts of drug trafficking, and also extortion, prostitution, wrongful privation of personal liberty, assault and pimping.
  • Mohamad A. (27) is Rabih’s younger brother. 62 cases involving drug dealing, and also armed robbery. He has also been convicted four times.
  • Fadi S. (35) was sentenced to 14 years and 1 month in prison. His criminal record: “theft (both private and public), illegal acquisition of narcotics, dangerous physical injuries, aggravated theft and computer fraud”. Sentenced to prison until the 13 of June 2016.
  • Mohamad S. (29), sentenced to 10 years and 1 month. Charges against him: public theft, violation of the drug laws, extortion and fraud. He is also one of those Lebanon does not want to get back, although the authorities in North Rhine-Westphalia could prove Mohamad’s nationality through a copy of his father’s passport as well as that of his brother’s and his sister’s.

Lower Saxony’s Interior Minister, Uwe Schünemann (58, CDU), told Bild: “It cannot be that almost all those Lebanese nationals required to leave should remain in the Federal Republic after having committed serious crimes.

“It is imperative that Lebanon follows its obligation dictated by international law to withdraw its nationals. This must have a strong and unequivocal effect on the Lebanese Embassy and the Lebanese government.”

The following data from the Interior Ministry is also dramatic: of 34,885 Lebanese living in Germany 30,000 are dependent on Hartz IV (long-term unemployed welfare benefit), and 4072 are illegals — that’s 11.7%!

Caption for the photo shown at the top of this post:

A Lebanese clan in the corridors of a court of justice. Rabih H. is among them. He was sentenced for 62 cases of drug dealing.

For a complete listing of previous enrichment news, see The Cultural Enrichment Archives.

Back by Popular Demand

Our Norwegian correspondent The Observer has translated another article about the radical Islamic preacher Haitham al-Habbad.

As reported here last month, Mr. al-Habbad attended a seminar in Norway late last year hosted by Islam.net. The Observer says, “Apparently his message was such a hit with the attendees that Islam.net decided to invite him back for a second session next week.”

The translated article from Friday’s VG.no:

British Islamist will attend a second seminar in Norway

The British Islamic preacher Haitham al-Habbad will address Norwegian Muslims for a second time next week at a seminar hosted by Islam Net. His previous appearance in Norway just before Christmas caused controversies.

Islam Net has described him as a “great scholar”, views that are not shared by the Islam-critical website Human Rights Service and Vepsen [hardcore left-wing human rights organization] who have previously written about the extremist.

However, Islam Net is not perturbed by their critics, and has once again invited the British national to Oslo to speak at a seminar on January 11, writes Klassekampen [“Class Struggle” — communist newspaper].

According to the original advertisement, there are only 50 tickets available for the event, and attendees have to register before being informed about the location of the seminar.

Haddad gave a lecture at the University College of Oslo on December 21 of last year. That time he focused on how Muslims should conduct themselves in a modern society. After the seminar he attended a meeting at an undisclosed location.

Kari Toverud Jensen, the principal of the University College of Oslo, gave permission for the event to be held in one of the campus auditoriums, a decision which was heavily criticized by the deputy Mayor of Oslo, Libe Rieber-Mohn (AP — Labour Party). Rieber-Mohn felt that it was completely unacceptable to allow a Sharia expert to spread his message.

“He is a well-known extremist who spreads hatred against Jews and gays,” she told newspapers back then.

Per Sandberg (FRP — Progress Party), Chairman of the Parliamentary Justice Committee, compared Haddad’s ideology with Nazism in an interview with NRK [Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation].

“Following the attacks on July 22, Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg (Labour Party) made it clear that Norway must become even more democratic in order to oppose Anders Behring Breivik’s hatred. My view is that there must be more religious freedom for Islam in Norway in order to oppose Sandberg and Rieber-Mohn’s hatred of Islam. We have to show these Islam-haters that we will not be intimidated by their hate-filled campaign against Muslims. People who choose to stay silent will slowly but surely be indoctrinated and filled with hatred, as was the case with Germany during the Nazi regime,” says Fahad Qureshi, the leader of Islam Net.

Shariah-Compliant Warriors

If you want to see a frank assessment on a major TV network of the frightening state that the United States’ war-fighting doctrine has fallen into, you’ll need to move to Canada. In the video clip below, retired admiral Ace Lyons talks to Charles Adler on SUN TV about the new U.S. army training manual, which aims to turn American soldiers in Afghanistan into “culturally sensitive” dhimmified sitting ducks:

Hat tip: Vlad Tepes.

Gates of Vienna News Feed 1/5/2013

Gates of Vienna News Feed 1/5/2013The news feed remains light, due to the continuing absence of email service at Schloss Bodissey. Dymphna and I eagerly await the resolution of this latest crisis.

An armed man held three people hostage in a townhouse in Aurora, California early this morning. After shooting at police officers, a police team entered the house and killed the gunman. Three corpses were found in the house, and are believed to be relatives who were killed by the suspect.

In other news, the French actor Gérard Depardieu arrived in a Black Sea resort to meet with President Vladimir Putin and receive his Russian passport.

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The OIC: Quietly Islamizing the West

The Organization of Islamic Cooperation is the polite face of the Great Jihad. It represents the entire Islamic community, Sunni and Shi’ite, and acts as the political arm of the Ummah. It is in essence the nascent global Caliphate.

Professor Ekmeleddin İhsanoğlu is the Secretary General of the OIC. He epitomizes those characteristics that Islam prefers to display to a gullible Western public. He is urbane, well-educated, soft-spoken, and eminently reasonable.

Below are excerpts of an interview in Arabic with Prof. İhsanoğlu. It took place in Jeddah in November 2012, and appeared on Saudi TV just after the U.S. elections. In it the professor discusses the OIC’s ten-year plan for eradicating the slander of Islam in Western countries, and presents the usual taqiyyah about what Islamic law actually means to women, dissidents, and non-Muslims.

Dr. İhsanoğlu also confirms what I have long contended in this space: the OIC and the Muslim Brotherhood object to violent terrorist factions within Islam not because the objectives of those groups are wrong, but because they are counter-productive. Islamic violence against infidels tends to waken the kuffar from their slumber and arouse their resistance. Therefore, with an eye on the long-term goal, it is to be avoided.

The OIC believes it can accomplish the same end — the establishment of the World Caliphate — without detonating any bombs or slitting even a single infidel throat.

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Some samples from the interview:

…the most important point here is that we have succeeded in the period since 2005 (the publishing of the Danish cartoons) succeeded internationally in that we issued reports from the Human Rights Council of the UN on how to deal with such issues… and these reports we have adopted in agreement with the US and European countries that were objecting to these reports.

…At this moment we have the resolution 16/18 which was issued last year at the UN which forms a legal groundwork for criminalising such actions that could lead to violence… there is in the international agreement for civil and political rights (year 1966 paragraph 18) A provision that would allow us to put limits on the misuse of freedom of speech including misuse of freedom of the press, freedom of thought, the misuse of these freedoms towards others, in a sense that it would encourage to violence and to hatred based on religious belief. We have these legal bases… bases that existed for some time and new bases that we developed and the international community accepts; all we are now missing is some steps that would allow enforcement of these laws.

And:

… there is indeed cooperation between us and the U.S. government, there is a cooperation with the Islamic Development Bank, and it is one of the OIC foundations… There is cooperation between us and the Bill Gates Foundation.

People who are preoccupied with what Obama does, or what Cameron does, or what Gillard does — or even with what Anjem Choudary and Imam Rauf do — are missing the center of the action. The most crucial components of the plan to Islamize the West were conceived in conferences and meetings within the OIC. They are being implemented continuously and quietly — and successfully.

Many thanks to Russkiy for undertaking the massive project of transcribing and translating this video, and to Vlad Tepes for subtitling it:

Transcript (time stamps from the original video, available here):

07:35   Now, since 2005,
07:40   we don’t appoint anyone unless they are highly professional in the area of diplomacy, management.
07:45   They must have experience in dealing with international organisations
07:50   They must come from a country that upholds agreements with the OIC
07:55   with respect to participation in and assistance to the organisation
08:00   and the voting record in the United Nations.
08:10   There’s now a discipline and control in the operation of the organisation.
08:15   And this raises the profile of the organisation,
08:20   which has now become an influential player in the international community.
08:25   There are decisions that are taken in the UN.
08:30   I give you an example which is very illustrative: the membership of Palestine in UNESCO.
08:35   If the OIC with its 50 votes in UNESCO didn’t press on the issue of membership for Palestine,
08:40   than that would not have been possible. And many things are happening
08:45   There’s now a kind of relationship,
08:50   control and systematic structure in membership
08:55   in the way events are dealt with.
09:00   Then by means of the 10 year plan which was agreed upon
09:05   in the historic Mecca conference, which was called by his highness Abdullah bin Abd al-Aziz in 2005 and
09:10   held in December in Mecca, which was the first conference to be held in Mecca.
09:15   This exceptional conference produced a new outlook for the Islamic World
09:20   and a 10-year plan.
09:25   The new outlook may be titled “Solidarity in Action”.
09:30   The solidarity isn’t that we just repeat words that
09:35   makes us all happy;
09:40   this is not what’s needed.
09:45   Simply intangible satisfaction
09:50   There must be cooperation in action, in projects, in political stands.
09:55   The important thing is to change this cooperation
10:00   from cooperation in verbal and written statements to cooperation in actions
10:05   and unite the political positions to a great extent.
10:09   OK. Why is it that the Arab street – I mean the Arab and the Muslim base –
10:12   accuses the Islamic conferences which are held,
10:15   that they are confined only to the conference halls, and never
10:20   convey their opinions?
10:25   As for example the interfaith dialog conferences.
10:30   I mean this is a complex question and there are many elements to it.
10:35   I would like to discuss these elements separately because generalised statements
10:40   will be answered with unconvincing generalisations as well.
10:45   We have to differentiate when dealing with events
10:50   between the general issues these events relate to.
10:55   There are political situations, for example,
11:00   where Islamic countries act together
11:05   in accordance with the decisions taken in the OIC
11:10   We in this regard have made very large progress.
11:15   With very few exceptions,
11:20   the voting in the UN happens in accordance with OIC decisions.
11:25   This issue is very important… Now of course the “street” is not ever part of these details.
11:30   And here comes the role of the media.
11:35   We would like the role of the media to be greater to make people aware a what has been accomplished.
11:40   At this moment the OIC has four members on the security council;
11:45   four members of the OIC are on the security council and this is very important.
11:50   In the G20, which consists of the 20 most powerful countries, there are three OIC member countries,
11:55   there are three OIC member countries.
12:00   Therefore now the role of our countries has climbed the ladder of influence
12:05   Coming to another issue… There are some problems…
12:10   That concern the Islamic World.
12:15   The OIC decisions concerning these problems are general,
12:20   which means that they are not binding… for example there are issues that concern minorities (Muslims in non-Muslim countries).
12:25   In that regard there are decisions made
12:30   that call to do this and this,
12:35   but there are no means to address these decisions.
12:40   Meaning that when there is a problem with a Muslim minority group
12:45   in a country which is not a member in the OIC,
12:50   how is it possible for the OIC to influence on the reality,
12:55   and change the position of the government in that country that doesn’t give Muslims a good treatment,
13:00   other than diplomatic action?
13:05   In the diplomatic play there are many spheres,
13:10   And as such the relationship between our countries and one that doesn’t treat Muslims well,
13:15   here comes the collapse in consensus and positions taken by each OIC member state,
13:20   meaning that the position being taken
13:25   by each member is based on its interest
13:30   in the relationship with that country mistreating Muslims.
13:35   And here the Islamic world looks at the reality,
13:40   as if it is a laziness of the OIC, and that those issues are not on the priority list.
13:45   It is necessary in dealing with this issue
13:50   to define the boundaries of the influence of the OIC,
13:55   which is international body that issues decisions
14:00   based on agreement of its member states regarding any particular issue.
14:05   But I can say that the organisation, during a period starting from 2005
14:10   was capable of achieving a status in the international arena,
14:15   and had become a voice which is heard and influential on many issues.
14:20   I mean this is reality and I can give many illustrative examples of this reality.
14:25   What is a good example… I mean which country you have influenced to protect Muslim minority there?
14:30   In the Philippines, for example.
14:35   In Philippines there is a big issue
14:40   with the Muslim minority in the province of Mindanao.
14:45   Over a long periods in history those Muslims had their own state, a Sultanate,
14:50   but after the World War 2
14:55   and the appearance of modern states, this Sultanate was removed,
15:00   which compromised the rights of local Muslims who were the native population of that area
15:05   The OIC has succeeded in forming an agreement between the government
15:10   and the Muslims.
15:15   Since 2005 we have generated a lot of noise over this political issue.
15:20   We were involved in negotiations and the signing of agreements,
15:25   in organizing different political groups representing Muslims,
15:30   And entered in conversation with the Philippine government.
15:35   The leader of Muslims was imprisoned, and were able to convince the government to release him from confinement,
15:40   which was political and illegal.
15:45   There are many similar examples, including the Muslim minority in Thailand.
15:50   Ok… If we talk about some problems… And now we are working especially on the issue of the Rohingya,
15:55   The Muslim minority in Burma… I will return to
16:00   this issue in detail. If we speak about the problems of the Islamic World today
16:05   there is a problem that concerns everyone, the problem of extremism… the latest was the film that denigrated the prophet.
16:10   You have demanded that the West respect religious values and not misuse the right of free speech,
16:15   but in your view the results of the whole scandal, were they
16:20   in interests of Muslims or against their interests?
16:25   I have to make it clear, we are suffering
16:30   from extremism in more than one place.
16:35   On our side there is extremism; now on the side of the West
16:40   there is extremism. The extremism on our side takes certain form,
16:45   which is different from the form that it takes in the West.
16:50   Weren’t we extreme in the way we dealt with that film?
16:55   We have to see the issue in its entirety; that is, this film was produced by
17:00   a group whose hearts are filled
17:05   with hatred for Islam,
17:10   and there was no connection with the American government or their film industry,
17:15   any connection with this event,
17:20   the group that put the movie on to the internet are a misguided group that hates Islam.
17:25   Now when the OIC discovered
17:30   in one way or another that there is a film which denigrates the prophet,
17:35   and it indeed denigrates. It’s a disgusting peace of work.
17:40   It is impossible to defend it in any way; the response was violent,
17:45   and I think that this violent reaction
17:50   has confined us in the work that we began
17:55   after the Danish cartoons.
18:00   We were able… first of all to document, at the OIC, all occurrences of Islamophobia
18:05   the daily, 24 hour documentation of every single occurrence.
18:10   Doctor, we are forced to take a break. We will return after the break
18:40   We will continue the program this evening with our guest, professor Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu,
18:45   the General Secretary of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation, the second-biggest organisation in the world after the UN.
18:50   The record of Islamophobia which you talked about and the image of Islam
18:55   in the world today … how do you see it?
19:00   There is now a wave of hatred
19:05   and a wave of distortion of the image of Islam, which occurs in the Western world,
19:10   from within small or marginal groups,
19:15   but they are very active.
19:20   And they have a special agenda… we have to deal with this issue quietly
19:25   with reason, and using style,
19:30   which will lead to a result. And it means dealing with the issue diplomatically over a period of time, as necessary,
19:35   which means that expression that takes a violent shape
19:40   in response to these actions
19:45   transforms us from victims into aggressors,
19:50   from having a righteous cause that can succeed to one which will fail.
19:55   Then the individual actions of some who think that it will bring results,
20:00   in reality it doesn’t bring any result in as much as it brings a loss
20:05   to us all.
20:10   So who motivates these people to demonstrate in such a violent manner?
20:15   Couldn’t you motivate these people to demonstrate in a peaceful manner in response to such things?
20:20   The crowds are motivated by their feelings.
20:25  
20:30   I do not blame the people who demonstrate but rather I blame those who motivate these people,
20:35   and as I said, we have extremists on this side and there are extremists on the other side,
20:40   and it is required of us that we follow the voice of sound mind
20:45   in dealing these people… the most important point here is that we
20:50   have succeeded in the period since 2005 (the publishing of the Danish cartoons)
20:55   succeeded internationally in that we issued reports from
21:00   the Human Rights Council of the UN
21:05   on how to deal with such issues… and these reports
21:10   we have adopted in agreement with the US and European countries
21:15   that were objecting to these reports. We were capable of doing that by negotiating with them.
21:20   At this moment we have the resolution 16/18
21:25   which was issued last year at the UN
21:30   which forms a legal groundwork
21:35   for criminalising such actions that could lead to violence… there is
21:40   in the international agreement for civil and political rights (year 1966 paragraph 18)
21:45   A provision that would allow us to put limits on the misuse of the freedom of speech
21:50   including misuse of freedom of press, freedom of thought,
21:55   the misuse of these freedoms towards others,
22:00   in a sense that it would encourage to violence and to hatred based on religious belief.
22:05   We have these legal bases…
22:10   bases that existed for some time
22:15   and new bases that we developed and the international community accepts; all we are now missing is some steps that
22:20   would allow enforcement of these laws. We are now intent… in a few weeks we will
22:25   have a meeting in the UK around this issue.
22:30   six months previously there was a meeting in Washington
22:35   with the American State Department. In the middle of last year we started a political process
22:40   in dealing with the United States and the European Union.
22:45   There was a conference with the participation of Hillary Clinton
22:50   and myself which was known as the Istanbul process
22:55   to support this work. It is impossible to achieve this undertaking without cooperation,
23:00   working together with the international community.
23:05   The support of The member states is necessary to achieve desired result.
23:10   OK, I have also read your report that says that extremism is produced by oppression in society,
23:15   and there was… we talked about the role of the OIC
23:20   in removing extremism from Islamic society. In your view, how can
23:25   this can be achieved? How can the religious rhetoric that supports violence be changed?
23:30   I would like to refer here to the historic Mecca conference in 2005.
23:35   that conference produced a report
23:40   to assert a balanced interpretation of religious texts and tolerance in Islam.
23:45   To this end a list of priorities was formed to reform the Islamic Fiqh Academy,
23:50   Which is the highest religious authority for the member states of the OIC,
23:55   because this academy includes 57 member states, includes the most prominent muftis,
24:00   all the most distinguished people in the Islamic sphere who take the most prominent roles.
24:05   Now it is necessary to distinguish between principles
24:10   of the religion….and
24:15   its foundational rules which call for a balanced approach and tolerance
24:20   and acceptance of others’ ideas, and based on the principle “for them their religion, for me my religion”,
24:25   and distinguish between all of that
24:30   and the extremist movements that use religion as means for power that from religion makes
24:35   an ideology for violence,
24:40   and uses religious arguments that are wrong,
24:45   meaning that they take religious texts from their context.
24:50   It is impossible to understand a religious text
24:55   which calls to do something on not to do something without knowing the right context .
25:00   There is a lot of distortion,
25:05   a lot of misinterpretations of the texts,
25:10   and majority of people don’t know this and therefore they are driven by those people.
25:15   For political reasons…are you afraid of political Islam?
25:20   We have to distinguish between the right Islam and its honourable principles,
25:25   and the Islam which is currently being pushed
25:30   by some special groups.
25:35   Now what is known by “Political Islam”… I mean that Islam in its long history
25:40   didn’t have a definitive governing system.
25:45   There are different types of governing systems. There are general principles that Islamic government should be based, on such as justice,
25:50   doing good deeds, shura etc. All those things, if present in a governing system,
25:55   then that governing system would be in agreement with Islam.
26:00   Since the beginning of the prophecy to the beginning of the World War One,
26:05   when the entire Islamic world was controlled by a single authority,
26:10   there were many types of government. So it is possible that an individual or a group will come
26:15   and say that the Islamic government is what I say it is,
26:20   and he who doesn’t agree with me is not a Muslim; therefore you have to follow what I say,
26:25   and if you don’t follow then you are outside of Islam etc.
26:30   And all these accusations… we have to understand
26:35   that the governing system in Islam must be built on the founding principles such as justice,
26:40   shura and other similar values… as for the way of governing,
26:45   now the whole world is heading towards democracy, to a mature way of governing,
26:50   to transparency, to representation, to elections
26:55   and its impossible that someone will come and say that these means are contrary to religion.
27:00   The opposite is true, many of the most prominent religious scholars have said that
27:05   all of these new ideas of governing, the election of a president,
27:10   election of representatives etc. are in agreement with Islam. There are many precedents
27:15   in the modern history of Islam. Since the 19th century and in the 20th century
27:20   we have seen that between the modern values and Islam exists
27:25   a lot of resemblance… I want to come back to this point,
27:30   but firstly I want finish on political Islam. Prior to the revolutions
27:35   you tried to dismiss the fears of some
27:40   about the rise of political Islam.
27:45   Their fears were real, however, and the Islamists had risen into positions of power. Today are you worried for the situation in the Arab world?
27:50   Firstly, its necessary to understand well
27:55   that this period which the Arab and Muslim world is passing through
28:00   is a transitional period. This transitional period,
28:05   there is no doubt that it will be filled with surprises and shocks,
28:10   because we are witnessing transition from the totalitarian, absolutist regimes.
28:15   A totalitarian system where all the authority
28:20   is in single person’s hand and other’s views are not considered,
28:25   where dialogue doesn’t exist nor political or social freedoms, but now
28:30   these countries are exiting from this closed-off system to an open system,
28:35   the openness has reached, to a great extent,
28:40   a point of chaos. The democracy,
28:45   the mature governing system does not mean chaos.
28:50   The openness must be within a framework of laws and controls
28:55   that are agreed upon. This is the situation in countries that experienced
29:00   democratic rule over a long period. We are still in the beginning of this process.
29:05   …. I have compared, I said that the expression
29:10   “the Arab Spring” is an incorrect expression because a spring
29:15   if what meant by that is the appearance of flowers and fruits and good weather.
29:20   This is not what is happening . What is happening is
29:25   is the autumn of oppression. The people have woken up and
29:30   got rid of the absolute rule.
29:35   Now the spring is in front of us. The long autumn is still upon us. The winter will also come;
29:40   the winter will be full of rains and storms etc.
29:45   When will it end? It will take a long time. No country or society has ever arrived,
29:50   in Europe , Asia or the Americas,
29:55   did not arrive at a democratic society overnight.
30:00   In my country Turkey for example… So you are somewhat optimistic, for example,
30:05   the Arabic countries that went through revolutions in the beginning of the 20th century, but
30:10   after that they had entered Autumn, or let’s say winter, and stayed there until now,
30:15   can we distinguish between then and now? What happened in the Arab world wasn’t revolutions; what happened was
30:20   military coups. Starting from Adib al Shakli then in Egypt
30:25   abd al Nasr, in Iraq abd al Karim Qasim
30:30   and in Libya… All that was military coups,
30:35   so by means of coups the militaries took control of governments,
30:40   and they named those coups revolutions,
30:45   even the name “revolution” didn’t appear in Egypt, following the coup, for a long time.
30:50   At some stage someone suggested it be named “revolution”, and they called a revolution but in reality wasn’t anything other than
30:55   military coup. Now what’s happening
31:00   is the awakening of the people.
31:05   You have mentioned your country Turkey…they say… they say Turkish example
31:10   They say that the Turks want to implement their example in the area…
31:15   that the Turks want extend their influence in the area through these revolutions… so always the Turkish example is mentioned.
31:20   I say the following,
31:25   First of all I express my personal view as an educated Turk,
31:30   not the official position of Turkish government, which has its own representatives,
31:35   and I am not speaking in its name as I don’t have the right to.
31:40   Turkey wouldn’t have arrived at this point if it wasn’t accepted
31:45   or appreciated by others … and I think there are those who call for this.
31:50   It didn’t happen overnight.
31:55   It has been happening over the last ten years. Turkey was going through a process of reform.
32:00   For the last century and a half it passed through a number of stages ,
32:05   starting with the reorganisation of the Ottoman state, then a constitution, then the republic
32:10   went through military coups. In Turkey in the year 1961
32:15   a military coup happened which arrested the entire government.
32:20   The prime minister, the speaker of parliament,
32:25   the foreign minister were executed. Many politicians were imprisoned;
32:30   some went into exile. And I am one of those who were imprisoned at that time.
32:35   After that there were many other events, other coups.
32:40   I mean to say that Turkey didn’t arrive at this point in the last 5 or 10 years. This has taken a century and a half,
32:45   therefore this means that the place which Turkey has now arrived at,
32:50   the other can’t arrive at in a short time,
32:55   and each country has its own political circumstances,
33:00   political history, economic, social and demographic situations
33:05   and circumstances that influence the flow of events, in one case
33:10   may not repeat, in the other case and the opposite is true.
33:15   Each country has its own circumstances. Indonesia, for example,
33:20   from the beginning of independence to the end of the Suharto era
33:25   had lived through military dictatorship,
33:30   and when the Suharto regime collapsed, a major democratic reform occurred,
33:35   which wasn’t completed until recently. Now there is a democratic government.
33:40   Indonesia lived through a very long period of upheavals
33:45   until arrived at this shape.
33:50   This is a very natural thing. The Indonesian experience is very different from the Turkish.
33:55   OK, is it true that Turks… Every country that lived and lives through such events
34:00   Will have its own path. But it’s possible to examine
34:05   experience of others and benefit from it,
34:10   so what is the conclusion of the Turkish experience? It is that an Islamic society
34:15   can achieve a democratic system, that the authority
34:20   can change hands peacefully by means of elections,
34:25   meaning that whoever comes doesn’t stay in power longer than a constitutionally-designated term,
34:30   comes in and leaves through elections; another point
34:35   is that there is no contradiction between this democratic regime that we talked about
34:40   and the teachings of Islam. And maybe our people
34:45   can accomplish this other point.
34:50   Industrial and social progress and openness to others,
34:55   these values are in harmony with Islam,
35:00   and Islam is not a barrier to this, but the opposite. Islam actually is the stimulus.
35:05   This is what they can benefit from, as for taking this example and say,
35:10   A did this, B did this and C did that,
35:15   this is not possible.
35:20   Possibly it’s because we are still lost, always search for an a model to adopt.
35:25   I say that its not an easy thing for these societies to exit
35:30   from the pattern that lasted for that long a time.
35:35   Now some, in Egypt for example,
35:40   exit from the rule of dictatorship that lasted for 60 years.
35:45   Now comes a big change,
35:50   and the parliament forms the government
35:55   and gives it confidence. And the prime minister is accountable to the parliament.
36:00   The president of the country is elected for a specified period and not for life.
36:05   It’s a difficult thing… generally the road to freedom is not covered with flowers. We will take a break, Dr. Akmal,
36:10   and will return after the break, stay with us.
36:30   Welcome back again with Dr. Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu
36:35   At the OIC headquarters in Jeddah.
36:40   Dr. Akmal, before the break you were talking about bridging
36:45   the modern social and political ideas with Islamic ideas. So how
36:50   can we unite the modern values such as democracy with Islamic ideas?
36:55   In your view is this an easy thing to accomplish at this point?
37:00   I don’t think there is a difficulty; it is an issue of understanding,
37:05   if we are capable of understanding Islam and the rules of government in Islam
37:10   in its correct form as was revealed in the holy texts,
37:15   as was implemented historically.
37:20   We cannot understand the texts without understanding the historical context when the laws were developed,
37:25   so there would be no problem. But if confine ourselves by the narrow understanding of the texts
37:30   taking the texts out of the historical context,
37:35   That will create obstacles for us. And we are living through some of these obstacles now.
37:40   And within the year I think some of that will happen,
37:45   and I see some good indications of that. With respect to some of the modern values,
37:50   democracy, human rights, specifically women’s rights…
37:55   I have heard you say previously that these revolutions will benefit women. That women will have a better status
38:00   In the Arab world after the “Arab Spring”.
38:05   The biggest problems for women today, and what is the role of OIC in solving these problems?
38:10   In reality the women’s issue was not brought up
38:15   within the organisation until 2005. Since 2005
38:20   we have made the women’s issue and woman’s place and role in society
38:25   the top of the priority list for the new agenda,
38:30   the agenda of reform in the organisation.
38:35   We have started holding a first ministerial conference about the issues of women in the year 2006,
38:40   and this conference was a big turning point in dealing
38:45   with female issues, as it hadn’t even been raised previously within the organisation,
38:50   Whether in the meetings of foreign ministers or conferences,
38:55   as this issue was considered of low significance. For that reason we had held a conference specifically for that purpose
39:00   for ministers that deal with women and family issues,
39:05   and great work was undertaken in that area.
39:10   We have already had three conferences on that issue, and during the next month there will be a fourth conference
39:15   for the ministers dealing with women’s issues… what had come from these conferences?
39:20   Is all of it just meeting of ministers,
39:25   speeches and dinner parties?
39:30   Or did it yield fruits? And I say that actual positive results were produced.
39:35   There is a document on the place of women,
39:40   and empowering women in Islamic societies.
39:45   And this document expresses explicitly Islam’s view
39:50   on the position of women, their right to participate and their role in building society,
39:55   and also woman’s participation in decision-making,
40:00   in the priorities of decision-making.
40:05   A decision was also made to set up a dedicated organisation
40:10   that will be involved specifically in women’s issues. This was agreed,
40:15   and we are currently in the middle of the process to set up this organisation,
40:20   we are gathering the required signatures
40:25   to form the administrative structure for the new organisation.
40:30   But the Islamic world and especially the Arab world… I mean, I as a woman,
40:35   we have been putting up for a long time with this story of signatures on documents
40:40   Agreements to eliminate discrimination against women… there are many agreements
40:45   that were signed but never implemented, or with strong reservations
40:50   and simply paying lip service. How you will force these countries to implement [the decisions]?
40:55   Now in our dealing with this issue we have finished with all such pretence.
41:00   If a country doesn’t believe in it, then it’s not obliged and doesn’t sign
41:05   and remains outside this matter. But the countries that sign, then
41:10   they have to implement it. It is hoped for…
41:15   The point that I you raised is very important. Here we say the work is not finished
41:20   by issuing statements and documents.
41:25   It is necessary for women’s organisations,
41:30   for organisations in civil society to work for that goal.
41:35   We cannot do everything;
41:40   there is no international organisation that does everything. You mean if there’s no desire from women…
41:45   There needs to be a follow-through
41:50   from women’s organisations with regard to these decisions,
41:55   and efforts for their implementation. Because the bureaucracy in our countries
42:00   is problematic… there are many complications and other issues
42:05   and there are those who believe in this and those who don’t
42:10   and some who are interested and some who are not.
42:15   So we say to women that this document is here and that the member states are supposed to act
42:20   in accordance with this document. But what about a country like Saudi Arabia?
42:25   There are no organisations in civil society or women’s organisations such as you have mentioned.
42:30   Who are you going to cooperate with? There must be some groups.
42:35   I see for example in business rooms there are large numbers of female members
42:40   I see in press there women writers… in universities there are professors
42:45   I don’t want to get into specific details,
42:50   but there must be cooperation, there must be an interest
42:55   and follow-through with regard to these issues, and we have to do something ourselves,
43:00   not just wait for someone to do it for us.
43:05   OK, let’s come back to politics. The disagreements within the Islamic world today, how do you see them?
43:10   Especially the disagreements of the Arab countries with Iran?
43:15   Yes this issue is very worrisome… and we in this regard
43:20   call everyone to respect the rights of others
43:25   and not to interfere in others’ affairs
43:30   This is the main issue – to respect peacefulness of states
43:35   and their territorial integrity. As well as not to infringe on their legitimate international rights.
43:40   and we are also calling to recognise a very important point
43:45   which is… or bring to the attention this issue,
43:50   that is, that these countries mentioned
43:55   are members in the OIC.
44:00   They are not members in the Arab league or Agreement of the Central Asian States.
44:05   They are members in the UN and in the OIC.
44:10   And there is no common membership for those countries except in the UN and here.
44:15   Hence, in this framework, in the framework of the Islamic family
44:20   a good framework in which all parties can sit together under
44:25   the roof of the OIC… based on the same philosophy
44:30   that brought this organisation together more than 40 years ago and the same Islamic principles of cooperation
44:35   that were confirmed over many periods,
44:40   difficult periods which the organisation went through.
44:45   The latest meeting that was held,
44:50   its purpose was to reinforce the principle of Islamic cooperation and state the definition of its meaning,
44:55   what is the meaning of Islamic cooperation If there is a problem between me and you?
45:00   We belong to one Muslim family, and this organisation unites
45:05   the Islamic nation everywhere around the world, therefore we use this organisation
45:10   as means to solve our problems, this is why
45:15   we call upon everyone to benefit from resources at our disposal to overcome such crises.
45:20   OK, with regard to Syria…
45:25   You have spoken on numerous occasions about the danger of the situation in Syria.
45:30   Until when, in your view, will this indifference continue over what’s going on in Syria?
45:35   I think that we will soon enter a new period…
45:40   Even this morning the entire world was preoccupied with the US elections
45:45   And there was a big sign on the gates of the White House that said: Do Not Disturb.
45:50   Don’t bother us, there are elections. Now this sign had changed,
45:55   and the White House and its inhabitant
46:00   is in a better state to deal with international issues.
46:05   Now to this day
46:10   there is no consensus on what needs to be done on the Palestinian issue
46:15   whilst there is a consensus… around
46:20   what must not be done
46:25   concerning the situation in Syria. There is a consensus on what
46:30   not to do, but no consensus on what needs to be done,
46:35   so now we hope that there will be an agreement between the major powers
46:40   which have an influence on the warring parties.
46:45   This agreement need to happen to stop the bloodshed on the ground,
46:50   and after that political solution can be found.
46:55   The political solution is the beginning of the exit from the crisis.
47:00   It is not possible now to have a discussion about any sort of foreign intervention from outside.
47:05   This has been rejected internationally,
47:10   and will not lead to the resolution but the opposite, to complicate the problem
47:15   and make it bigger. It will increase the bloodshed
47:20   and the destruction of the country. OK, why not send Arab and Islamic forces?
47:25   Qatar proposed to send Arabic and Islamic forces. Are you for the Idea of sending Islamic troops, for example?
47:30   I mean sending troops from Arab and Islamic countries.
47:35   There is no problem, whether they come only from Arab countries,
47:40   or from the whole of Islamic world. But it is necessary to have international backing, meaning that it’s impossible to send military forces
47:45   to any country without a decision from the Security Council
47:50   in accordance with Section 7 of the UN document. This is still the problem.
47:55   That’s why I say that the major powers need to come to an understanding in order to
48:00   influence the situation in Syria, in order to achieve
48:05   a ceasefire, and after that a conversation can start
48:10   about political solution, and if agreement about solution can be reached
48:15   it will be possible to send peacekeeping forces.
48:20   As for now, sending troops to fight requires international agreement.
48:25   I have asked you a question during this interview about the role of Turkey.
48:30   Some see that Turkey wants to have a significant, critical role,
48:35   and that it wants to enter the Arab world through its role in the Arab revolutions.
48:40   I don’t want to be a part of a political discussion about Turkey
48:45   Because those who comment on the Turkish politics are the Turkish government in Ankara
48:50   I don’t represent it or belong to it. In my position as secretary general of the OIC
48:55   I make statements on behalf of this organisation.
49:00   As for the sovereign decisions on any matter that any state makes,
49:05   it is not my position to comment on it.
49:10   I have talked in general terms about the Turkish historical experience.
49:15   As for talking about policies of the government I would ask you to
49:20   address this question to … OK, some see that you take the position of Iran
49:25   against the interests of the Arab states that are in confrontation with Iran. Is that true?
49:30   Is there a single piece of evidence for that? They say that you support Iran
49:35   on the matters where the interests of Arab states are concerned.
49:40   I don’t take sides with anyone against other. I take an objective position regarding every matter,
49:45   and call for understanding between Iran and the Arab countries, and I say that
49:50   the OIC is in the service of these countries, as I explained.
49:55   I don’t believe there were any biased statements issued by me.
50:00   We speak on issues in light of the decisions taken by the organisation…
50:05   So these accusations are unfounded… with the consensus of the members.
50:10   And I don’t believe there is a single decision that would confirm the truth of such accusations.
50:15   I would like to ask a question about President Obama. Today Americans are voting.
50:20   How do you see Obama with respect to Islamic issues?
50:25   I have heard you speak about the Obama’s speech after he was elected
50:30   in 2009 approximately, in discussing human rights, minorities in the Arab world.
50:35   Did anything he promised eventuate?
50:40   We want to develop a relationship between the Islamic world and the USA
50:45   based on two principles: mutual respect and common interests,
50:50   and based on this principle
50:55   we have explained what our expectations are from the USA with respect the Islamic world,
51:00   of which the first issue is Palestine, the political and development issues etc.
51:05   President Obama in his Cairo speech, which I was personally invited to,
51:10   to be present with and listen to him,
51:15   and I was with Madam Hillary Clinton during that event,
51:20   President Obama stated
51:25   in a very clear fashion the intention of the new US government
51:30   to cooperate with the Islamic world in a positive manner
51:35   … and it was
51:40   a very big surprise for all of us, because the manner in which the speech was given,
51:45   that the type of word president Obama used…
51:50   was the first time in history of our relationship that we heard such words from
51:55   a president, and he is the highest authority,
52:00   and the impression was very positive, and we welcomed it with great receptiveness.
52:05   But I would like to mention that I said at the end of his speech,
52:10   that now the import thing is to put these good intentions into action.
52:15   Was it put into action? With respect to political side of things,
52:20   we don’t see any advancement, however there is a cooperation
52:25   which began, and we had initiated it
52:30   during the period of George Bush,
52:35   and this has continued during the presidency of president Obama,
52:40   and has expanded. And there was for example a suggestion
52:45   of eradicating poliomyelitis by cooperation between us and there is indeed cooperation
52:50   between us and the US government, there is a cooperation with the Islamic Development Bank,
52:55   and it is one of the OIC foundations. So you are optimistic in that regard?
53:00   There is cooperation between us and the Bill Gates Foundation.
53:05   There are projects that were already started. So cooperation in this space continues .
53:10   Cooperation in the area concerning Islamophobia
53:15   and insulting Islam, there is cooperation between us and them but in the political arena,
53:20   especially with regard to the Palestinian issue, nothing has happened,
53:25   and I believe that it is impossible for a relationship between the USA and the Islamic world
53:30   to become satisfactory
53:35   without solving the Palestinian issue.
53:40   So the biggest of our yearnings now and the biggest of our expectations
53:45   is that president Obama keeps to the promises that he made to himself, and his government,
53:50   that he will solve the Palestinian problem and the creation of an independent Palestinian state.
53:55   Secretary General of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation, thank you very much for this interview.
54:00   I thank you for following and being with us.

Previous posts about Ekmeleddin İhsanoğlu and the OIC:

2007   Aug   31   The OIC is Barking Now
    Sep   7   OIC: Insulting Islam is an Illness
        12   Sweden Apologizes Again… Or Not
    Dec   10   Countering Islamophobia
2008   Feb   17   Nice Little Civilization You Have Here…
    Mar   6   Our Man in the OIC
        13   An American Dhimmi in Dakar
    Apr   30   Is Europe a “Christian-Muslim” Continent?
    Jun   10   OIC: Time to Crack Down on Provocative Speech
        17   The OIC’s Plan for Fighting Islamophobia
        22   The OIC’s Crusade Against Islamophobia
    Aug   3   The Islam-Aligned Movement
    Sep   25   The OIC Fights Islamophobia at Columbia University
    Oct   11   Confronting Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu
    Nov   1   Fisking Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu
2009   Mar   5   Mandating International Respect for Islam
        20   What is Eurabian Culture?
2010   Jan   25   The Caliphate-in-Waiting
    Jul   27   Accommodating Sharia
    Oct   5   Decoding the Words of the OIC
2011   Jul   29   Pushback Against the OIC — From the UN
    Aug   2   The OIC Calls the Shots
        17   Whitewash in the White House
        22   The Breivik Portfolio, Part Three: The OIC Connection
2012   Feb   13   First Comes the Slap…
        15   Accolades for Ihsanoglu in Oz

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