Hans Georg Maaßen: This is Not a Coincidence, But a Planned Action

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The following video features a lengthy interview with Dr. Hans Georg Maaßen by the Austrian journalist Marie Christine Giuliani for FPÖ TV.

Dr. Maaßen is the former head of the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution in Germany (see previous posts: #1, #2, #3, #4). He is now a co-founder and president of the Values Union (WerteUnion), a non-profit organization whose motto is “Freiheit statt Sozialismus” (“Freedom instead of Socialism”).

Many thanks to Hellequin GB for the translation, and to Vlad Tepes and RAIR Foundation for the subtitling:

Video transcript:

00:15   Welcome, dear viewers, to a conversation with Dr. Hans-Georg Maaßen.
00:21   Today is November 23, 2023.
00:25   Welcome, Dr. Maaßen. —Good morning, Ms. Giuliani.
00:29   Dr. Maaßen is a prominent fighter for the constitution,
00:33   for freedom of expression, against socialism and fascism, regardless of the colour,
00:38   a graduated lawyer, former president of the German Federal Office for Constitutional Protection
00:44   and chairman of the Werte Union [Our Values Union]. That would be it in a nutshell.
00:48   Would you like to add anything to that?
00:51   No, thank you, Ms. Giuliani.
00:54   In various conversations we have already dealt with aspects
01:00   that contribute to the growing destruction of Western society,
01:04   that push it forward or even cause it,
01:07   and thus disregard the rules of democracy.
01:10   Today we want to focus on the ongoing Islamization.
01:14   That would be the core of our conversation.
01:18   The events come thick and fast in Germany.
01:21   Would you like to take this opportunity to comment on that?
01:25   If you are talking about Islamization and the events that are happening in Germany,
01:32   that is then a sign that we still have a completely uncontrolled,
01:37   undisturbed migration into Germany.
01:40   In recent years, we have, one might say, recorded several million people
01:45   from predominantly Muslim states.
01:48   Unlike the media coverage in Germany, which made the people believe,
01:53   it wasn’t primarily about women and children,
01:56   it wasn’t primarily about people who came to us
02:00   out of sheer necessity due to political persecution and human rights violations,
02:06   but it is regularly young men,
02:09   where the villagers collect money
02:12   to send these people to Germany, to Europe,
02:16   to transfer the money back, or to let the whole family and clan come here.
02:21   And obviously our federal government wants to settle these millions of people here.
02:29   And I have to say, there is neither in federal law nor in our constitution
02:35   any authorization for the government
02:38   to settle millions of foreigners from culturally foreign states in our country.
02:43   I consider that unconstitutional, if not even constitutionally hostile,
02:47   because the government does not have the right to choose the people itself.
02:51   On the contrary, it is the case that the people choose the government,
02:55   choose the constitution, choose the institution, but not the other way around.
03:00   Well, but who is now managing in Germany? Is it the German government?
03:06   Or is it transnational corporations?
03:09   One has the impression that it is not about what the people want,
03:14   and this also concerns the Austrian people.
03:18   The people are not recognized.
03:21   It is always determined somewhere else, above the will of the populace.
03:25   Who is in charge here? I am careful in the analysis.
03:31   I also come from the intelligence sector.
03:35   And there you have different hypotheses,
03:39   and try to strengthen these hypotheses,
03:42   in order to get a good, reliable analysis.
03:46   Or you can also say, instead of hypothesis, suspicion.
03:49   And what is very obvious here is that we have people in Germany
03:53   in politics, in major functions,
03:56   who come from the left-wing extremist scene,
03:59   who can also be classified in the field of the so-called anti-Germans,
04:04   Anti German is also a left-wing extremist aspiration,
04:08   one might say a sect in the field of left-wing extremists,
04:12   which also works very closely with the so-called anti-racists,
04:17   anti-colonialists in other states,
04:20   those who are against white people,
04:23   and who also believe that the people of light skin color
04:28   because of the alleged injustices that have been collected over centuries,
04:33   and they now have to atone for other peoples’ actions,
04:37   and for that we have to replace the population here.
04:40   These people in Germany are in quite important political positions,
04:45   and their idea, one of these so-called refugee lawyers said,
04:50   that in 50 to 100 years in Europe,
04:53   especially in Germany, there should be no more whites,
04:56   but people from other cultures should be settled here.
05:00   One could say that this is an idiotic project.
05:05   One might laugh about it if these people were not relevant,
05:09   and if the people didn’t really mean it seriously.
05:12   And this is a really serious, highly fanatical, ideological sect from my perspective,
05:18   which holds important offices in Europe, in Germany, in Brussels, and also in other countries.
05:24   They really imagine that through mass migration
05:27   they can create their own people, based on their ideological orientation, here.
05:32   Those are one. You asked me, Mrs. Giuliani, who else could be behind this.
05:37   You have to realize, human trafficking is big business,
05:40   through which you can earn a lot of money.
05:43   You can earn more with it than with drug trafficking, white slave trade, gambling.
05:48   So you can really earn big money with it. Many, many people are interested in it.
05:53   It starts with the traffickers from Turkey or the Middle East,
05:57   who organize people’s way into Europe.
06:01   But it carries on into our domestic communities,
06:05   where there are of course many who benefit from it in the asylum industry.
06:10   Philanthropic organizations, as they call themselves,
06:14   humanitarian, charitable organizations,
06:17   which of course earn billions of money by renting houses, hotels,
06:21   by providing accommodation, food and care.
06:26   They make billions and are interested that this source of profit not be lost.
06:33   And that they, through their access to the media,
06:39   continue to barrage us with advertising so that these migrants continue to come to us.
06:44   Until recently, you weren’t really allowed
06:48   to use the word “migration”
06:55   or to have a different opinion about it.
06:58   That was definitely forbidden.
07:01   You had already crossed a boundary.
07:04   Since we have now have the problem on the streets of Germany
07:08   and on the streets of Austria, of demonstrations
07:12   and the meetings of people,
07:17   many of which you would not have suspected that they now live amongst us.
07:22   Is it now permissible to think about it?
07:25   I would describe this topic very carefully.
07:29   What is Islamization really?
07:33   What does it actually mean that we in Germany and Austria
07:38   have the problem of Islamization? Could you explain that to us?
07:43   For many people it is completely unclear how one might differentiate
07:49   between Muslims and political Islam and Islamization.
07:54   How exactly does that work? —In addition to what you said at the beginning,
08:01   that one can now talk about it more openly, I would like to point out the following.
08:06   It is true that until recently those who had addressed the topic of migration,
08:12   who dared to say in a public discussion
08:15   that we have a problem in this area,
08:18   was a right-wing populist, a conspiracy theorist or a Nazi.
08:22   In any case, you can say that for Germany.
08:25   People like that were cancelled, had no chance at all of being invited to a talk show.
08:32   This is of course a huge attack on freedom of expression and on democratic discourse,
08:38   when a political clique in the media and in government or in parliament
08:44   tries to influence or has successfully influenced
08:49   a specific topic on the political agenda.
08:53   That they did so is quite clear. They didn’t want it to be talked about, because
08:59   if it is talked about, then they would be on the defensive and would have to stop their plan
09:04   to bring the masses to Europe and to Germany.
09:08   Now they have failed to permanently hush up the topic,
09:13   because the problems are too obvious.
09:16   That’s why they change tack and try to put themselves at the forefront,
09:20   and say, yes, we have a migration problem,
09:23   and now we do something and now we hold a summit
09:26   and now we devise a migration package and now we travel the world to talk to some head of state
09:32   about bringing their own people back.
09:35   From my point of view, this is all a window-dressing policy,
09:39   a dummies policy, where there is no serious expectation that anything will happen.
09:45   If you look at this migration summit, it is ultimately only about
09:49   whether the councils and the municipalities get more money for accommodation.
09:54   Ultimately, it is about whether people are brought through asylum procedures faster.
10:00   But it’s not about the general question and the central problem.
10:04   Why do we let these people come to Germany and Europe at all?
10:08   Why are they not simply stopped at the borders and send back?
10:11   Why do we not force states like Greece and Italy
10:15   to do what they should do according to the European treaties?
10:19   Proper border protection. Why do we let them come to us, feed them and spend billions
10:26   on these people, while many local poor pensioners who have a €920 retirement pension
10:32   after a full working career?
10:37   These people have to collect bottles while Mr. Scholz
10:41   brings large families to Germany and endows them with citizens’ money.
10:46   My impression is that now politics is trying to get the jump on the critics,
10:50   to say, people, we have learned, we are doing something,
10:53   but ultimately that is just a policy trap.
10:57   On the problem of Islamization,
11:00   mostly Muslims come to us,
11:03   who are also very strongly organized in Muslim communities,
11:09   who, unlike the Europeans, have a different consciousness
11:15   than Europeans of family, culture, religion,
11:20   for whom completely different values are crucial than those in a secular European civilization,
11:27   where religion is a matter of the individual, if at all,
11:31   where the family is also a matter of the individual and not of the clan.
11:35   A completely different culture comes to us and we are not prepared for it.
11:41   We are not prepared for it at all, because, to take my example,
11:45   we are no longer able of enduring conflicts with violence,
11:52   as these family clans from Arab states can do.
11:56   These people turn to violence as a solution for conflict,
12:01   while the Central Europeans think that violence as a solution to conflict
12:06   only happens through courts and tribunals.
12:09   So far, different cultures meet on our soil
12:16   and the Europeans are subordinated, because the Europeans are not at all able
12:21   to perceive the conflict as such,
12:24   and secondly, are not able to endure the conflicts in a manner similar
12:28   to the people who come to us.
12:31   Ultimately, this leads to the fact that our European cultures are gradually being destroyed,
12:38   for the last 40 years, by the political left. Deliberately.
12:44   I am only thinking about the topic of family, education and culture.
12:50   All of this has eroded.
12:53   Some have seen it as positive, others have not noticed it at all,
12:58   especially if you live in rural regions and live on cultural islands,
13:06   and say that we are still doing quite well,
13:09   but if you look at the larger cities, especially the big cities,
13:12   then it is clear that the destruction of the Central European culture by the political left
13:17   is very, very advanced.
13:20   In any case, we have a very high loss of values in Europe.
13:29   We have a loss of defining ourselves.
13:34   Most people in our country do not dare to define themselves
13:38   or to speak out against something.
13:41   We are losing our culture or the foundations of our culture.
13:47   So what you are saying is absolutely correct,
13:50   that we actually have no way of defending ourselves.
13:54   We are no longer defending ourselves. This brings me to a topic
13:58   that a very dear friend of mine mentioned yesterday, and I should definitely ask this.
14:04   What about the eternal guilt complex for Germany and Austria?
14:09   Does it have anything to do with it? Is it a deep, emotional, eternal wound that cannot heal
14:17   and which therefore also leads us to the fact that we have to put up with everything?
14:23   I agree, Ms. Giuliani.
14:27   The basic problem is the loss of values in Europe
14:33   and thus in the context that we do not even know where we want to go.
14:38   We have no vision at all. What are we there for and where do we actually want to go?
14:43   What should Germany, what should Austria look like in 2030?
14:47   We live from day to day, and basically we are politically, ideologically
14:52   inferior to others who have an ideology or a religion and know where they want to go.
14:58   We may also think in time frames from here to next summer
15:02   and know that we may go on a vacation next summer.
15:06   But ultimately we don’t have a mission,
15:09   that we say we were born not only to live and to have a vacation,
15:13   but we were born because we have a certain mission to fulfill.
15:17   And that makes us inferior to people,
15:20   even if we perhaps look down on these people,
15:23   because they come from underdeveloped countries from our perspective.
15:27   But they have a set of values and they have a mission and they have a vision.
15:32   What we don’t have, you’re absolutely right, we have no bounds.
15:37   Above all, we are not intolerant enough.
15:41   By that I want to say that we have to be intolerant towards the intolerant.
15:45   And that means we have to protect our own identity and our own values,
15:50   as far as we still have them, against the intolerant.
15:54   We made the big mistake of thinking that tolerance also means
15:58   tolerating and accepting the intolerant.
16:01   And I think that’s a big mistake. We have to set boundaries.
16:07   Only if you know boundaries can you basically keep your own.
16:13   Without boundaries, you also destroy your own.
16:17   You spoke of an eternal guilt complex.
16:21   I think that’s a problem in Germany and Austria,
16:27   that only really reared its head in the last 30 years.
16:31   If I read the literature, after the war, until the 1970s,
16:37   the topic was not as important as it is today.
16:40   You have to draw the conclusion from that.
16:43   We have simply developed in a direction that is not good for us psychologically.
16:48   Yes, that’s well put.
16:51   When do you become a German or an Austrian?
16:55   We now have a lot of people from other cultures with us.
17:00   That’s the subject.
17:03   What does homeland mean?
17:06   When are you integrated and what does integration actually mean?
17:11   What is successful integration, and is perhaps unsuccessful integration
17:16   also responsible for all the violence that we have now seen on the streets?
17:21   I’ve been around a lot in the world
17:26   and I’m not a fan of the ethnic concept
17:31   of saying who is German, who is ethnic German and can claim,
17:35   my ancestors go back to Arminius, of the Cherusci.
17:39   And one of my forefathers was also a sword-bearer for Charlemagne.
17:48   That is a right illusion, a right-wing radical illusion.
17:54   I don’t think that’s crucial.
17:57   What is crucial is that people are willing to become cultural bearers of our society,
18:03   that they want to integrate into our society.
18:07   And that was a perspective that we had in Germany for many centuries.
18:12   And you may know, I considerably helped shape the SPD’s migration policy
18:17   under Otto Schily in Germany as a legal authority.
18:22   And I always had to think about, we have received many, many migrants in Germany.
18:27   The Germans we had in Germany until a few decades ago, had always been a people
18:34   that had come together from many ethnicities.
18:38   We have the Salzburger Protestants, we have the Huguenots.
18:42   There were many wars in Germany, whether the Thirty Years’ War or other wars.
18:48   And of course they all left their descendants in Germany,
18:54   which was very positive for the country as a whole,
18:57   because we were fed from many cultures. We had many ideas,
19:03   and we were ultimately the intellectual and technical creative powerhouse for Europe.
19:09   The whole thing can only work if the people who come to us and
19:14   want to stay are willing to allow themselves to embrace our culture and
19:19   want to contribute constructively to it.
19:22   And that means no parallel society.
19:25   The leaving behind of ideologies from home, and all problems from home, leave them at home.
19:33   You have to be part of our society. Inclusion means tax payments, raising children reasonably,
19:40   contributing to social cohesion.
19:43   And the one who does that, who learns the language, participates,
19:48   really wants to be here, whether it’s in a shooting club or in a
19:53   neighborhood assistance, in a political party or in a football club,
19:57   just wants to be one of us, is warmly invited.
20:02   And then I look, at least we shouldn’t look at where he was born,
20:08   what his background was. He is definitely part of a team.
20:12   And then I think to myself, then they may themselves also call Germans or Austrians.
20:17   I think that’s the deciding factor. And that also brings us further.
20:21   The more people who really play along in our team and really make
20:26   a contribution, the stronger and more capable we will be in the future.
20:30   We are all more or less the product of a migration.
20:34   It has always existed. It was always limitless.
20:38   How is that to be judged now?
20:42   After what we saw in the pictures from the street in the wake
20:48   of the Israel-Gaza conflict, many have come to the conclusion
20:53   that integration has failed.
20:56   I just have to say, the politicians who are now finding this out, they are thick as a brick.
21:02   That integration in Germany has failed, one could have said
21:07   five years ago, could have said ten years ago.
21:10   When I was responsible for migration policy in the Federal Ministry of the Interior
21:15   in 2001, we had an integration law in Germany for the
21:20   first time, in which regulations were contained in language courses, in orientation courses.
21:27   And at that time it was already clear that integration for all these people had failed.
21:33   And it was an attempt to counteract this.
21:36   It was an attempt that was unsuitable partly because the financial
21:41   resources were also lacking, partly because the political left
21:46   did not want it to succeed, that people who have lived with us
21:51   for many years, I would say, with a certain polite pressure
21:55   to integrate, and that we as a society also strive to dissolve parallel societies.
22:01   So it was already around the year 2000, you could have seen that there
22:06   are parallel societies, that there are Arab and Chechen clans
22:11   and clan structures and that we have very, very big problems with integration.
22:16   Today you have to say that integration is a disaster, a total disaster.
22:21   We have parallel societies in Germany where migrants only live
22:26   in their language, in their culture.
22:29   They didn’t need to learn German, because whether it’s the employer,
22:34   whether it’s the employee at the doctor’s or in the bank,
22:38   they all speak their national language, whether that’s an Arab dialect or Turkish.
22:43   That means Germany’s claim to integrate these people is ultimately
22:47   a claim that doesn’t reach those people at all.
22:50   They don’t want it because they say to themselves, we live here in our Turkish
22:54   and Arab world and we don’t give a damn about these Germans, whom they, without a doubt,
22:58   perceive to a high degree as unworthy, as a dying culture
23:03   that does not even know why it is still around and that
23:08   does not undertake any effort to be oriented towards the future.
23:12   If we were to look at the clock, it is already five past twelve or is it already over?
23:21   Yes, I would say it’s already half past twelve.
23:27   I’ll say that for me, in the end, it’s not a issue, not a point
23:34   to be hopeless.
23:37   And you can also get out of that situation.
23:43   If it’s half past twelve, you can still say we have eleven and a half hours,
23:47   but, we have to use this time.
23:52   I recently published an article in the “Schweitzer Weltwoche”,
23:58   which received an unfortunate headline from the publisher.
24:02   It was called “Chemotherapy for Germany”.
24:05   as if we had a cancerous tumor.
24:08   But the content of my article was to say we have a huge migration problem.
24:15   The huge migration problem could have been solved ten or fifteen years ago
24:20   as a legislator with relatively simple means.
24:24   I spoke earlier on the topic of integration as an example.
24:28   If we had been able to exert more pressure on the migrants
24:32   who have been living with us for many years, we would have had a higher degree of
24:36   integration readiness and integration ability. The more time has passed in this country,
24:40   the stronger the problems have become and the more intense they have become.
24:45   That means that with the small-scale measures that could have been taken
24:49   ten or fifteen years ago, we can no longer use today.
24:52   We need clearly different priorities that also hurt if we want to solve the problem at all.
24:59   We have to be clear about that. It won’t be easy measures.
25:03   And you have to spend political capital on that.
25:06   And what you can do is say from today to tomorrow we’re going to make rejections at the borders.
25:13   We can do that. Because of our safe third country policies, Austria can do that too.
25:18   Rejections at the borders is politically difficult to implement in Germany.
25:22   But if you have the will to do so, you can do it.
25:25   You can also push out tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of foreigners
25:30   who do not want to integrate, who commit crimes or depend on the social welfare
25:36   of the state, you can deport them if you want, or you can make them return voluntarily.
25:43   But the will is simply absent. The will is absent.
25:47   And if I am told that there are states that are not ready to take back their own citizens,
25:51   then I have to say that you can also make these states take back their own citizens.
25:57   And that starts with saying to the head of government and his ministers,
26:00   people, if you don’t want to do that, then you can forget about entering Europe.
26:06   Then you won’t get medical care in a luxury hospital in Germany or Austria.
26:12   Your children can no longer go to school here. Your assets will be frozen in Europe.
26:17   We can also show our toolkit to get these states to behave
26:22   in accordance with international law and to take on their people back.
26:26   But our politicians don’t do that because they don’t want to.
26:29   I’m back to the first point, because they want a different population, and I am convinced of that.
26:33   But why do our politicians want a different population? That’s the crucial question now.
26:39   Yes, I said earlier, in parts, the political left is following the course of,
26:48   say, anti-colonialists, the anti-Germans.
26:53   That is ideologically motivated.
26:56   And of course another suspicion is that the more heterogeneous a population is,
27:03   the less it can articulate itself and the less it can contribute to
27:09   political change through democratic elections.
27:12   What exactly do you mean by that?
27:15   Please be a little more specific.
27:18   I say it’s… quite simple.
27:23   The more foreigners there are in the country who are then naturalized,
27:28   think about it, in Germany, after three years, migrants may already be given citizenship,
27:33   the stronger politics chooses the states people, the stronger politics
27:39   influences the election results.
27:42   Because if these migrants go to the polling stations, these migrants
27:47   may vote in a completely different way than the local population would vote.
27:51   Exactly, and that brings me to the question, do we even have a democracy, Dr. Maaßen?
27:58   That doesn’t sound like the way I imagine democracy.
28:03   I’ll put it this way: we have a democracy, but I think it’s highly endangered.
28:09   I also did constitutional law, and if I look at how democracy is currently
28:15   functioning in parts of Germany, I think that the founders, fathers and mothers
28:24   of the Bonn constitution, probably did not imagine it that way.
28:27   You know, if you vote for the Greens in Germany, you get this ecosocialist policy.
28:33   If you vote for the SPD, you get this green policy too.
28:36   If you vote for the FDP, you get this green policy too.
28:39   And if I vote for the CDU, at least in parts. I’m here in Berlin,
28:44   we had a repetition of the election here in the spring, where a CDU mayor,
28:50   became the current mayor of Berlin, then you also get queer commissioners
28:56   and this whole green, woke, ideological overhaul that the CDU voters don’t want.
29:02   So that means this party system is already so eroded that no matter what you vote for,
29:10   you get this eco-socialism. And the party that represents a different position than, one might say,
29:16   the opposition against eco-socialism, is the AfD, which is completely
29:21   excluded and demonized, with which no one wants to work together with.
29:25   I have to say, basically, that can’t be the idea of the constitution’s fathers and mothers,
29:32   to say that everyone agrees and wants eco-socialism
29:37   and those who don’t want it, they are being fought against like an enemy,
29:42   threatened with banning procedures, they are being deprived of financial means.
29:46   I have to say, that’s not the meaning and spirit of the democracy of our constitution.
29:53   If you look at it now in Austria, it’s similar in parallel.
29:57   We have united parties and then we have the FPÖ.
30:00   And I don’t know, did you follow the story of our first National Council President,
30:04   who is sticking to his chair, where more or less it has been suggested,
30:10   that those who wrote the constitution could never have imagined
30:15   that someone like that would become National Council President.
30:18   Did you follow this a little bit? —No, I didn’t see it, no.
30:21   You missed something there. Yes, Franz-Josef Strauß once said,
30:25   it was told me recently by an old hand from the CSU,
30:31   a young CSU minister, Franz-Josef Strauß must have said,
30:35   a CDU and a CSU, which is just a variant of socialism,
30:41   a variant of the SPD, is what nobody needs.
30:45   What you need is an alternative to socialism.
30:48   And in Germany I have the impression, we have to deal with cartel-parties,
30:52   which are all just variants, which are all for energy transition,
30:58   which all profess their faith in the climate creed.
31:03   We have climate change, made by the people, and CO2 is to blame.
31:07   We all believe that we will make it. These are variants,
31:10   and the population does not want variants of the same,
31:14   but it wants an alternative for something else.
31:18   And that this is not offered, I am sorry, by the CDU and the CSU;
31:24   that they no longer have the political power to say,
31:27   we don’t want to be a variant of socialism, but an alternative, I’m sorry.
31:32   But I think the population has a claim to get alternatives in a free democracy and not variants.
31:40   Exactly, if elections had an effect, they would be abolished.
31:45   Unfortunately, the sentence fits very well and many citizens are already thinking about that.
31:50   You have described it very nicely now, there are actually no alternatives.
31:57   Politically, there is also a feeling of lack of alternatives for the citizen,
32:03   the voter, when he goes to the ballot box. Because what the alternative would be
32:07   is shown to him as something that is unconstitutional,
32:11   which is really subtle, so it is very undemocratic, as you said.
32:18   And there is a very exciting book by Dr. Nils,
32:22   which is called “The indoctrinated brain”, and now we go to the psychological level,
32:27   that all these topics that really stagnate and flow into us at an incredible speed
32:32   and more and more and more intensely, really paralyze our brain,
32:41   because we no longer know, while we are still thinking about one thing,
32:45   there are already three or four other catastrophes.
32:48   That means we are flooded, and in principle it paralyzes you,
32:53   so that at some point you sit back and say, I can’t go on, I don’t want to go on,
32:57   I don’t know myself anymore, I’m practically withdrawing into my shell
33:01   and don’t want to have anything to do with the whole thing.
33:04   This is how you can also turn off people and their will. How do you see that?
33:09   I see it exactly the same way. I didn’t know the book you just mentioned,
33:15   but of course that is a technique that is deliberately used.
33:21   There are random cases, but much less than you think.
33:26   It is a technique to flood people with information and problems.
33:30   As you say, with one problem a person is well-off,
33:35   maybe even with two problems. He can concentrate on his personal life,
33:40   where he has his problems, in his professional life, where he has his problems,
33:44   but if now mega-problems come to people from all sides,
33:49   fear of unemployment, fear of inflation, fear of uncontrolled migration,
33:55   fear of not being able to pay the energy costs at all.
33:59   Everything is flooding people. They have to deal with their “little problems”
34:06   of daily life, even with their personal and family problems.
34:11   Of course, this leads to a psychological and intellectual exhaustion,
34:16   and this can also be deliberately caused by people.
34:19   It is a specific technique to bring people into a psychological exhaustion,
34:25   so that they are virtually defenseless. They move back into their shell,
34:30   or go back to the Biedermeier and say,
34:33   “I’m just dealing with my family, the little garden and nothing else.”
34:37   You can see that in portions of us at the elections,
34:41   where more than 40% of the electorate no longer go to the polls,
34:45   because these people say to themselves, “I don’t understand this anymore.
34:48   I know that if I vote for all these cartel parties, I will always only get green.
34:53   Then I’d rather stay at home and do nothing.”
34:56   And that is, of course, fatal for a liberal democracy,
35:00   when people are so indoctrinated by the media,
35:04   so exhausted by this multitude of problems,
35:09   that they actually withdraw from political life.
35:14   Exactly. One could say, if this is a plan, it is a very perfidious plan,
35:18   which also works, because it attacks us very simply based on our basic principles,
35:23   and the basic principles have never changed.
35:26   Yes, how do we get out of this? On the one hand, it is important to know this,
35:32   which is why I find it very interesting that we can also discuss
35:36   such a psychological topic with you wonderfully.
35:39   It is important to know it and to be aware of it.
35:43   And I don’t think it will be the case
35:48   when you know that you have to subordinate yourself to it.
35:51   How can you still — I mean, first of all, you have to thank the people
35:55   who, like you, are still leaning hard into the wind and do not give up,
36:00   so do not let yourself be stopped from doing so.
36:03   But now a completely normal person who is being chased by fear,
36:08   he should definitely go to the polls, even if they actually want to stop him from doing so,
36:15   because they more or less suggest to him that it would be completely fine,
36:18   he can’t change anything anyway. What else could be done?
36:22   What other possibilities do you see to escape this,
36:26   except to return to the shell?
36:30   Nobody should withdraw into his shell.
36:33   Here, too, knowledge is power.
36:36   And that’s why we talk to each other, and that’s why it’s important
36:40   to talk to many people about this situation and to make yourself aware of it.
36:45   In the intelligence business, one sometimes speaks of psyops, of psychological operations.
36:51   This also includes the conscious immobilization of the political opponent.
36:56   And immobilization is when the supporters of another party stay at home.
37:01   They don’t have to vote for us, it’s enough if they don’t vote for the other one.
37:06   So a conscious demobilization of the opponent, which is also true,
37:12   if citizens stay at home, as we have just found,
37:17   because they are exhausted, frustrated, hopeless,
37:21   then a lot has already been achieved, at least from the point of view of the political opponent.
37:26   You have to be aware of this.
37:29   And you also have to be aware that this is not a coincidence,
37:33   but that it is planned, in my opinion, a planned action.
37:37   Just like the psychological operations during the Corona crisis,
37:41   the triggering of a mass psychosis, that was no coincidence,
37:45   that was concerted, planned, I have to say, bravo.
37:48   Worldwide? —Worldwide, worldwide.
37:52   And they did it really well, but probably also put billions per week
37:57   into this agitation and propaganda.
38:00   But you have to talk about it. And here we are at the central point.
38:04   If you expose the technique of the political opponent,
38:07   if you speak very openly about it,
38:10   they are conducting a classic dissolution against the political opponent.
38:14   They are mounting psychological operations. Then you take opportunities away
38:18   from the political opponent when you speak openly about what they are doing here.
38:24   So, dissolution according to the guidelines of the state security of the GDR,
38:28   that was a call for a character assassination campaign. We see something like this every day.
38:32   The journalists, the politicians, the bourgeoisie, the artists,
38:36   who express themselves critically on certain issues,
38:39   they have to expect to be put immediately in the pillory by the media.
38:43   Classic call for a character assassination campaign. You can only state:
38:46   the media really learned well from us.
38:49   They can do that. They know how dissolution works.
38:54   Next step, the exclusion of people, that they lose their bank accounts,
38:59   that they lose friends and jobs, that entrepreneurs who donate to the wrong party
39:04   lose their customers and public commissions. I have to say, this is the second stage
39:07   of the dissolution campaign,
39:10   all the way to the criminalization of the political opponent.
39:13   Which are then raids and investigations for alleged tax evasion,
39:17   or that a legal case of sedition is suddenly laid.
39:22   Classic dissolution, that’s the third step,
39:26   to criminalize the political opponent,
39:29   to limit him even more,
39:32   so that all his family, his friends, distance themselves from him.
39:36   Nobody wants to have anything to do with such a criminal.
39:39   And that is of course also an approach
39:42   to bring people into mental illness.
39:46   Where then maybe in the end either the people are mentally exhausted and give up,
39:51   take the rope, or say, okay, I’m leaving the country, I just can’t stand it.
39:56   That’s a very clear strategy, that’s no coincidence.
40:00   And I also accuse our media of proceeding exactly accordingly to this plan,
40:05   to finish people, to exhaust them mentally,
40:09   to hunt them like an animal until it finally collapses.
40:13   And they do that and are still paid for by our tax money.
40:18   Yes, that also brings us to this current example
40:23   that we have in Austria
40:26   around the cause of our National Council President Sobotka.
40:30   But that’s another topic.
40:33   I would like to know from you at the end, what are your plans?
40:38   You are busy with all these topics every day,
40:42   not because you find them interesting, but because you want to change something.
40:47   What are your plans? —Well, I said at the beginning,
40:51   I am the chairman of the Werte Union [our Values Union].
40:54   This is an association of CDU and CSU members,
40:58   former friends, conservatives, liberals.
41:02   We are no longer part of the CDU,
41:05   but we are a self-employed force in the pre-political space.
41:09   We are not a party. We want to influence politics and society
41:14   through this Werte Union, by organizing events,
41:18   by trying to mobilize people, not to stay at home in despair,
41:22   but to do something. You can discuss with others.
41:26   I think we need a much stronger awareness in society,
41:29   so that we have a system change here.
41:32   We also have to see how the situation develops in Germany.
41:37   In two years we will have a parliamentary election,
41:40   a federal election, at the latest in two years.
41:43   And our goal, at the latest in two years,
41:46   is the need of a center-right federal chancellor who will change politics.
41:50   Let’s see how we get there. Here I’m goal-orientated from today to the end of September 2025.
41:57   There is still some time. I am confident that we can do it.
42:01   Because the people who are currently doing politics are partly ideologized.
42:06   They may be fanatic and aggressive in some ways,
42:09   but are incompetent. The citizens also notice it.
42:13   And then you have to mobilize these citizens, bring them to the polling stations.
42:18   Then you have to give them the opportunity to vote for someone who can make a political change.
42:23   We wish you all the best from Austria.
42:26   The situation is similar here.
42:29   Finally, I would like to mention this book again, in case someone would like to read it.
42:34   This is Dr. Michael Nehls with an “e”. So Dr. Michael Nehls.
42:40   And the book is called “The indoctrinated brain”.
42:43   It was also recommended by Professor Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi
42:48   as a reading recommendation. And it’s very exciting, because it helps us better understand
42:54   what is happening to us on the psychological level.
42:58   Thank you very much for taking the time.
43:03   With pleasure, Mrs. Giuliani. Regards and all the best.
43:06   Have a nice day, Dr. Maaßen. —Thank you. I wish you the same.
43:09   See you soon.
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14 thoughts on “Hans Georg Maaßen: This is Not a Coincidence, But a Planned Action”

  1. There is no political solution to this problem, at least not with the political class that currently inhabits the halls of power. For the average citizen there is only one path forward, and that is disobedience, i.e. resistance.

    What we are seeing at the moment is the rape of our democracies and our values. This rape will eventually lead to Islamofascism and the utter demographic destruction of our nations. Yet the average person is sleepwalking forward, dutifully fulfilling every dictate and command created by the traitors in charge.

    There isn’t a single constitution that allows for what we’re witnessing at the moment, yet those in charge couldn’t care less. Thus, why should the average citizen care about following the rules that those in charge have decided that we “must” obey?

    If this had been WW2, and the nations of Europe had been under German rule, resistance fighters would have done whatever they could to overthrow the evil regime. So why should it be any different today? What we’re seeing these days is the total destruction and annihilation of our societies, a destruction once completed, there’s no coming back from.

    Resistance is the only option. If people don’t start digging their heels in and actively start to work against the current, rotten system, everything will be lost. You cannot beat our enemies by playing by their rule book. It’s really that simple.

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    • Islam must be rooted out of the country, root and branch. We, as citizens of Western Civilization have forgotten how to fight a war against a civilizational enemy (Islam). Our societies cannot live side by side with Islam as their goals are to conquer and displace citizens with Islam.

      So, call up the military and let’s get to work.

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      • You call the military. They don’t listen to me.
        I will wait and see. When the military are out on the street, I will get out and join. Hope they will be there for us, not against.

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    • I beg to differ, at some point human nature takes over from indoctrination, the strong, ruthless hard man is in the shadows, there always is in times of crisis, and basically take s over. The muzzy’s, the left and the so called parasite class of elites will find themselves hunted and eliminated using some creative methods. Thus begins the days of the new strongmen of Europe. Democracy created the weak men who created bad times.

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      • Europe has at this moment over 100 mil. muslims.
        They are ready. They plan. They are organized.
        Europe does not have 1 mil. of of strong men organized.
        There have been some tests many years ago made on animals and humans. As long there is hope and faith, people and animals tend to resist and faight 100 times longer than people or animals that lost hope. They are now killing hope and faith. Then, it will be easy.

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        • “Europe has at this moment over 100 mil. muslims.
          They are ready. They plan. They are organized.
          Europe does not have 1 mil. of of strong men organized.”

          Bingo!!

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        • There are over 1 million strong men in the shadows, and it doesn’t take long to organize them, once unleashed, they will be the force everyone will have to reckon with. Underneath that thin layer of civilization lies the man with conquer and kill all that vexes him. It just takes a man with a message to set it all off.

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  3. If people at the highest level does nothing, how can simple Kurt to dare to do something ?
    I suspect this guy is just preparing the brains of germans to shut up and accept.
    If he was working for Germany and german people, he should die fighting for them. He was in the best position a real patriot can wish.
    This guy is nothing but one more step to demoralize a nation.

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    • How come you can still see on TV this kind of individuals telling that there is nothing we can do ?
      How come you don’t see this guy on TV calling all real germans to resist and fight ?
      This is nothing but psychical murder. Kill hope, faith, traditions, national trust and there will be no heroes.
      We are 8 bill. people on this earth and yet 1000 smart guys are playing us all as they want. Why ? Because they are organized. We are not. We are not even trusting each other.

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      • Ideas rule the world. The right is weak and divided because they don’t have an overarching idea that unites them. We need new myth, beliefs, symbols, heroes that expresses an idea. The left has that, and so do the muslims.

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      • “How come you don’t see this guy on TV calling all real germans to resist and fight ?”

        I think the salient problem is the same one Lenin ran into when he assumed [incorrectly!] that WWI would do for the US/UK/EU what it did for Russia—turn the people into crazed [commie-toddler] ideologues eager to overthrow the established [capitalist] order and implement some variation of commie-toddlerism (i.e., Communism, socialism, fascism, et al). What Lenin didn’t reckon on was that while Russia’s middle class was tiny—a relative fraction of the overall population—it was the majority in most western nations.

        In contrast to early 20th Century Russia, modern western nations have relatively large (albeit shrinking!) middle classes, who’re quite happy sitting on their sofas, eating ice cream and watching that day’s programmed “reality” or sports TV (aka bread-and-circuses), regardless of who signs their dole checks. I see little impetus for these folks to leave their comfy living rooms, take up arms and fight. And until/unless large numbers of average, middle-class people’re unable to work or make a living, I think it highly unlikely that anything substantial will change. And that includes with Trump returning to the White House next year (ask him what his plans are for ridding the US of the 50~60+_ million ILLEGALS who’ve snuck into the country since Reagan signed the ’86 Immigration bill that traded amnesty of ~ three million ILLEGALS IN EXCHANGE FOR a permanent closing of the US borders and mandatory e-Verify for all new hires….the latter part of the agreement, as most here know, never materialized).

        But I could be wrong..

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