To Chaos and Beyond — Faye, on Fate and Futurism, Part 3

Below is the second part of Seneca III’s review of the writings of Guillaume Faye. Previously: Part 1, Part 2.

To Chaos and Beyond — Faye, on Fate and Futurism Part 3

by Seneca III


I have held off posting this concluding review of Faye’s trilogy for seven months. My reticence has been due to the fact that I felt that if I presented it too early, before events predicted by Faye occurred, and occurred closely within his predicted time frame, it would fall upon barren ground and be assigned to either or both of the categories ‘wishful thinking’ and ‘interesting fiction at best’.

It is also important to note that ‘Archeofuturism’ was first published, in French, in 1998, ‘Why we Fight’ in 2001 and ‘Convergence of Catastrophes’ in 2004. However I chose to present this series of reviews in a different order — Why we Fight, Convergence of Catastrophes and Archeofuturism — for two reasons: Firstly, ‘Why we Fight’ and ‘Convergence of Catastrophes’ both detail, elaborate and expand upon the underlying concepts of his general thesis (THE CLASH OF CIVILISATIONS, ETHNIC INVASION, CATASTROPHE THEORY, GIANT ECONOMIC CRISIS etc., etc.) as they are introduced and briefly explored in the first part of ‘Archeofuturism’, and it would be pointless to re-iterate them.

Secondly, the final quarter of ‘Archeofuturism’ is a 21,000 word novella in which a hypothetical functionary of the ‘Eurosiberian Federation’ describes a vacuum-tube train journey across the European Continent from Brest on the Atlantic coast to his hometown on the shores of the Bering Strait. He shares part of this journey with a young Indian woman visitor who asks why and how the breakdown of the old, Western European order began and progressed and eventually became the Federation, and it is here that Professor Faye’s uncanny prescience — or profound depth of scholarship, I know not which — surfaces, and it is that which I shall focus upon in Part 3.

In the novella the dates of certain seminal events proposed by the narrator (Oblomov) are variable only by a year, or two at most, from the dates of recent and current events, and this is telling because in reality they were predicted by Faye eighteen years ago and many have eventuated over the course of the last six months; others are so obviously on our near horizon or can easily be extrapolated from our present circumstance.

Consequently this final review is a series of loosely connected (and abridged) abstracts from those passages in the novella that describe the lead up to the Great Catastrophe and its aftermath, and then later detail the Functionary’s answers to the young woman’s questions. Those dates and descriptions therein which match, or closely match, recent and unfolding events are emboldened so that you the reader can more easily identify and compare them with the reality you find about you, and thus come to your own conclusions.

[N.B.: Interlocutions below and in square brackets are mine. S III.]

“Archeofuturism [the concept] is thus both archaic and futuristic, for it validates the primordiality of Homer’s epic values in the same breath that it advances the most daring of contemporary science…

…Faye’s Archeofuturism holds out an understanding of this world collapsing about us, imbuing European peoples with a strategy to think through the coming storms and get to the other side — to that post catastrophic age, where a new cycle of being awaits them, as they return to the spirit that lies not in the past per se, but in advance of what is to come.”

— Michael O’Meara, Saint Ignatius of Loyola Day, 2010.


A Chronicle of Archeofuturist Times


Brest, 22 June 2073

The Brest-Moscow-Komsomolsk bullet train left at 8:17 AM. The Plenipotentiary Councillor of the Eurosiberian Federation, Dimitri Leonidovich Oblomov, was running late. He hadn’t slept much and had woken at the last minute with a furry tongue. The business meeting with the Ministry of the Navy of the autonomous state of Brittany had gone on until 2:00 AM, so long had it taken Dimitri to get those Celts — stubborn as mules — to reach an agreement…

…On the whole the planetrain journey from the Atlantic coast to the Pacific took three hours. Following the traumatic occurrence of the great Catastrophe of 2014-2016, the Renaissance of 2030 and the building of the Eurosiberian Federation, which was given the name of ‘Empire of the Two-Headed Eagle — for it marked the fusion between the [remnants of the] European Union and Russia with the Pact of Prague in 2038 — the revolutionary Federal Government had chosen to make a clean break from the ideas of the past in the field of transport, as in all other fields…


The screen in front of Dimitri displayed the speed of the underground train: 1,670 kilometers per hour. On a simple map a luminous dot indicated its position: ten minutes away from Paris Montparnasse. Paris…A city that must have been magnificent in the Twentieth century, Dimitri thought. He had few memories of it. He was only ten in 2016 when his family had fled the city plagued by anarchy and hunger to return to Russia. Most of the monuments had been burnt and destroyed, and its museums and treasures pillaged during the civil war that had broken out before the Great Catastrophe…


The planetrain came to a halt in the underground station in Berlin. Time — and the stops in Paris, Brussels and Frankfurt — had passed unnoticed by Dimitri. During each acceleration and deceleration he had mechanically fastened his belt.

A flock of screaming, playful children swarmed into the compartment. From their uniforms one could tell that this was a group of ‘Eaglet’ scouts, the youngest division of the Federal Youth Organisation. They were over-excited at boarding a bullet train for the first time. They were no doubt going to attend a camp in some forest in the Urals or Siberia. These camps were very popular… the train decelerated again. It was now reaching Warsaw. A dark haired and very beautiful girl with long, jet-black hair down to her shoulders and dressed in a violet sari stopped in front of the empty seat next to Dimitri.

‘I haven’t made a reservation, but can I sit here?’ she asked in English, pointing to the empty seat.

‘Please do, Miss,’ and as was customary she introduced herself with a charming smile:

‘My name is Nafissa Godjab. I am the daughter of the Maharaja of Gopal, the Indian minister of Foreign Affairs. I have just completed a two month study programme in the Eurosiberian Federation.’

Dimitri in turn introduced himself specifying his rank [and then explained]…’My role is to resolve conflicts within the Federation. I am also responsible to the Imperial Government in Brussels where I have my offices.’…The girl didn’t answer. She lowered her eyes and took a small recorder out of her bag.

‘Mr. Councillor, in the Indian Empire they don’t teach history very well. It is if they have to hide what happened. Not even my own father will speak a word about it. What happened after the end of the Twentieth century? In my country people speak of a “Great Rapture”’…

…Acceleration pinned them to their seats. The screen in front of them displayed the speed of the train: ‘7,800 kilometers per hour. Next stop Kiev in fifteen minutes’. A list of airship connections for a dozen Ukrainian cities followed.

‘The world you know today’, Dimitri started explaining to the girl, ‘has little to do with the Twentieth century…The explosion hit suddenly without any warning in 2014…in any system it is enough for a single parameter to change for the whole system to fall out of balance, a civilisation will crumble, a storm will break out, the symptoms of an illness will appear and so on. The system, in other words, will disappear — this is the ‘Catastrophe’. Then, after a period of latency and resettling — the Chaos — a new system will come to light, one based on different relationships. This is precisely what happened to the global civilisation of the Twentieth century.


A beep was followed by a blinking red light. The screen announced ‘Fasten your seat belt, deceleration level G2’. Dimitri continued… ‘Ethnic revolts [and destructive rioting and arson] had been breaking out in Paris and other big European cities for years…and it became practically impossible to leave one’s house after sunset. Gangs of thugs and descendants of immigrant families led to a climate of unbearable insecurity in the cities, including in neighbourhoods that had previously been spared. A sort of rampant and endemic civil war had broken out which the police could hardly control…in France, ethnic gangs from the banlieues made a habit of regularly pillaging and looting town centres.

‘But why didn’t people and governments react?’

‘They were paralysed by a jumble of old humanitarian ideologies…France dragged Europe into the abyss. Everything came together and added up with increasing effect: the economic crisis, impoverishment and ethnic conflict.’

‘Did no one resist? Why did the state give in? Why didn’t people react?

‘Well, yes: some people did react. There was a political party, the Front National, [but] the party was demonised by the elites — deeply masochistic elites, which collaborated with the enemy. In 2014 the FN gathered 30% of the votes in France despite the increasing number of descendants of immigrants and newly arrived immigrants from the southern countries.

Moscow Station

The car started shaking slightly. It slowed and entered the underground station in Moscow. Dimitri explained, ‘The atmospheric pressure is equalising. The bullet train is shaking because air molecules are hitting its cockpit.’

[Dimitri continued…] The sinister year of 2014 witnessed the convergence of four events: …revolts broke out, police were overwhelmed and the powerless government did not dare call in the army. That year, the endemic uprisings caused by the (usually armed) ethnic gangs that moved out from their lawless enclaves to attack city centres turned into a real insurrection, which ravaged France between 2014 and 2016

…’Did no one manage to re-establish order?’ The Indian girl asked in amazement.

‘No. Ours was a society that was growing old and was undermined by the viruses of pacifism and humanitarianism. It was incapable of defending itself. Consider that between 2014 and 2016, part of Western Europe — France, Great Britain, Belgium and Holland — quite simply returned to the Middle Ages. In [another] three years part of Western Europe plunged into anarchy. States simply disappeared. The government in Brussels was no longer of any use, armed gangs scoured the countryside in search of food. Trains and cars stopped running…starting in 2015 the Mediterranean and central Europe, including Germany experienced the same tragic events as France, England, Belgium and Holland, and to their full effect.


[Dimitri continued…] … ‘[and] a global financial crisis, similar to the one that had occurred in 1998, only a hundred times worse. This crisis coincided with the outbreak of civil war in France. So there was a cumulative effect. The world economy, which had grown weak because of its financial and speculative foundations, popped like a balloon.’


…[Nafissa…]… ‘I heard there was a Muslim invasion of Europe? Is this a fabrication or is it true? As for us, in India we have completely solved the Islamic problem…’

…[Dimitri…] ‘In 2017, the Islamic republics of North Africa…took advantage of the complete chaos that reigned in France. An invading army landed in Provence and occupied it militarily. It tried to set up an “Islamic Republic of France” and banded together the armed ethnic gangs that scoured the country and fought each other, but failed because of the widespread chaos. It was a new Middle Ages…with pockets of resistance setting themselves up…

…The Indian girl asked in disbelief: ‘But why didn’t the armies of these countries intervene?’

‘That is a good question. The reason is that the governments of these countries, which were guilt ridden and filled with fear, gave orders too late — in the early months of 2017. By then, the economy had collapsed: there was no electricity and no fuel, and the Army was paralysed…Only certain areas were protected by officers who had managed to restore some order, defeat the armed gangs and ensure supplies in their cities through control of the surrounding countryside… These ‘baronies’ housed 20% of the population, exclusively comprised of native Europeans. Clearly, the standard of living in these places had returned to that of — say — the Seventeenth century. All forms of modern medicine, for instance, had vanished, as there were no drugs available.’

Dimitri suddenly added, ‘Fasten your seatbelts, Nafissa. We’re about to slow down — we’ve reached Novosibirsk.’

‘Who resisted?’ Nafissa asked.

‘Paradoxically, Russia kept going. Russia had been the sick man of Europe in the late Twentieth century, following the collapse of communism. But the new and largely militaristic regime enabled the country to resist. Your country, India, also resisted, as did China and Japan. These areas preserved their unity, as they were ancient civilisations that hadn’t forgotten their archaic defence mechanism. By contrast, multi-ethnic societies in which traditions had been destroyed or marginalised to make room for an economic cult imploded, for they no longer had any social or political thread holding them together. This is what happened in Western Europe and North America.’

After some silence, Nafissa asked, ‘When, in 2017, the Muslim army entered France, why didn’t neighbouring countries try to defend it? Weren’t they all part of this “European Union”?’

‘They didn’t intervene because of cowardice, although this was not the only reason. Since 2014 the European Union had been little more than a fiction. The European armies practically no longer existed…’

Stop in a Tunnel

Nafissa didn’t answer Dimitri. Suddenly, there was a violent tremor. An artificial female voice confirmed the information flashing across the screen in front of them ‘The train has come to a halt because of a minor incident. We shall keep you updated.’ The train shook as it braked abruptly.

‘This is quite normal at this speed. Accidents often occur when the train is braking. I just hope I won’t miss my connection in Komsomolsk with the airship for Bering.’ (Dimitri’s voice betrayed a certain anxiety.)

…[Dimitri continued…] ‘…In 2025 the ‘baronies’, or areas of European resistance that were living under siege, chose to ask for help from the nationalist, populist Russian Federation. What led to this decision was the Muslim conquest of the free state of Lorraine, which included the city of Metz and its surroundings. The acts the Islamic army carried out were atrocious [Faye did not actually foresee ISIS and the true reality of Islam that it would teach us, but he certainly could smell the coffee]: the city cathedral was burnt down and the Russian Ambassador was slain along with all his family in reprisal for the anti-Islamic policy that Russia and the Orthodox Slavs had long adopted…

…[Nafissa…]… ‘So Russia launched a sort of crusade, but this time to the West?’

‘Yes…So on 6 June 2025…General Alexander Ivanovich Dukachevsky accepted the plea of the besieged cities of Europe. In December 2026, an army of over a million men backed by tanks and jets crossed central Europe into the “Western Europe Occupation Zone”, which included France, Spain, Italy, Belgium and Holland, as well as portions of Scandinavia and Germany. A second army of 300,000 men from Ukraine, Poland, the Baltic and Serbia…landed in Brest. Here they joined the Breton army and marched to the East in such a way as to squeeze the Islamic forces like a vice. The Russians provided fuel and ammunition. The decisive battle took place in the Brie area east of Paris…Most of the Muslim army was destroyed and the survivors were made prisoner…The victorious army then entered Paris and was cheered by the meagre population (the city had been nearly abandoned).

‘What followed was the “Reconquista of 2025-28, which was unfortunately an extremely violent one’…

…[Nafissa…] ‘As a Hindu, I’m not at all shocked [by the ruthless actions of the European Liberation Army during the liberation and after during the Reconquista]. Well, please continue: what happened then? Did massacres take place?’

“No, there were no massacres. These rootless people without a homeland were transferred en masse from Europe to the island of Madagascar by boat. There were 23 million of them. Many were legally ‘French’, ‘Belgian’, ‘Dutch’ and ‘British’. But this meant nothing now. The nationality rights of the old world had completely disappeared — Archaic criteria had come to prevail.’

And there, for the purposes of this review, we must leave Dimitri and Nafissa to complete their journey to their respective destinations. Faye continues to present a cornucopia of interesting scenarios and projections, particularly the political, social and military structure of the Eurosiberian Federation, its relationships with other autonomous state entities globally and the scientific and agrarian achievements of the Federation and others and much, much more besides, but that will have to wait for another time — or never.

However I do feel that it is worthwhile repeating the following paragraph from the Forward; “In the novella the dates of certain seminal events proposed by the narrator (Oblomov) are variable only by a year, or two at most, from the dates of recent and current events, and this is telling because in reality they were predicted by Faye eighteen years ago and many have eventuated over the course of the last six months; others are so obviously on our near horizon or can easily be extrapolated from our present circumstance.” Also, I would add, that if his oft quoted time frame of 2014-2016 is moved forward only by a year to 2015-2017 he was pretty much on target nigh on those two decades ago.


As I have done every time I have opened one of Faye’s books, from that time many years ago when I first came across him and his works and even unto today, I close this review with something less than full confidence that our future must take the exact shape he proposed. It may be the triumph of hope over pragmatism that I choose to believe that there could be other scenarios that would somehow ameliorate the worst of the inevitability that is being thrust upon us.

But in my mind there is no doubt whatsoever that the barbarians and their indigenous enablers are rampant across the face of the West, that this is a time of attempted conquest, a time of great danger where anything could happen in the blink of an eye to drastically and terminally determine our fate and change the course of our future history. Furthermore, I am now convinced that the ‘Turning Point’ I postulated in Part 2 of this series was passed in Brussels this last week, with all that that portends.

And, if it comes to pass that Faye is in the most part correct, then all that I can offer both to myself and any who read this is that we should commend our souls to the mercy of the Lord Jesus Christ in the knowledge of everlasting salvation, and then face that future with courage, determination and an unbounded ferocity, for that future is ours to win or lose.

— Seneca III, Middle England, Easter, in this year of trial and turmoil 2016.

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20 thoughts on “To Chaos and Beyond — Faye, on Fate and Futurism, Part 3

  1. A European-Mediterranean dark age: 1200 – 800 BC
    Another European-Mediterranean dark age: 700 – 1100 AD
    Another European-Mediterranean dark age: ?

  2. I’ll have to read the books now. The reason even these reviews are so disconcerting is that there is such a ring of truth to them. The future “predicted” is a valid fact based projection from what we see now. Civilisation and all it entails really is something worth defending aggressively. I fear for the stability of our futures – and I detest the cause of this instability – Islam.

  3. This planet is going to be destroyed all because of wars and lies. All NOT worth it.

  4. Thank you sir. I’ve been wondering whether to read Faye and this is a good introduction.

    I have a small quibble re the ‘Turning Point’ being Brussels. There have been a series of atrocities in European cities over the last few years – London, Madrid, Charlie Hebdo, Paris – all forgotten once the sentimentalism of these events have faded. Sentiment is fickle and moves quickly on to the next excuse to shed a tear, change your twitter avatar and light candles.

    I felt the turning point was a different sort of event – the mass molestation during NYE in Cologne and other cities. Because no one was killed there was no excuse to displace and deflect outrage into morbid virtue signalling. There was more space for an authentic, healthy reaction – anger and disgust. I got the feeling that many sitting on the fence re mass moslem immigration started to get off that fence.

    It’s difficult to identify with people blasted to body parts (the horror is too great), but easy to make the connection with the molested and raped women and one’s own girlfriend, sister or daughter. Some men (only some, I know) began to rediscover a more atavistic response and spoke about ‘their’ women. (We’re so beyond feminism here that I don’t care.) I place my hopes for the future in this primordial instinct.

    • Anonymous, you may be correct, I do not read runes and nor do I have the gift of the sight.

      What I do is to come to my conclusions not solely based upon the magnitude of or on the basis of the immediate, knee-jerk response, or otherwise, to any given atrocity. Instead I watch and absorb what is going on around me amongst the body-politic as a whole. I travel extensively and always make a point of talking to and listening to the people, the common man, wherever I go, because they now quite openly reveal their real feelings, fears, aspirations and most of all their surprisingly accurate understanding of reality.

      They (a majority of those I have spoken with) are, en masse, losing their fear of the Thought Police and are speaking out, much in anger not so much at the human tragedy of Brussels, although they do feel deeply about it, but now from an understanding of the circumstances and machinations that have brought such things upon our heads.

      They have finally have come to understand the full implications of the ideological thrust, objectives and actions of the ruling classes, their draconian executive branches and their disinformation peddling propaganda arms in (most of) the MSM. Over the last seven days I feel I have observed a sea change in public perceptions finally come to fruition as the result of the lead up to the Brussels bombings and their extended aftermath, a perception that I have observed growing quietly, almost imperceptibly, over the course of several years.

      In free-to-comment blogs and mainly in those few MSM on-line outlets that print articles which are seriously antipathetic to the actions of our ruling classes and their Muslim street soldiers, and then permit on-line comments thereafter, the tone and substance has changed remarkably.

      In the case of the MSM particularly there has been a deluge of increasingly aware, angry and violent exchanges that even six months ago would have been moderated.

      Taking all of the above into consideration during the course of this week, I came to conclude that a turning point has been passed and that that turning will direct us all into a very different future from the one intended for us by our treacherous political classes – all in all a far more important and seminal moment than just a short outbreak of protest, street violence or vigilantism that would be swiftly and brutally crushed by desperate and venal governments.

      Rgds, S III.

      • “I… always make a point of… listening to the people, the common man, wherever I go, because they now quite openly reveal their real feelings.” I’ve noticed this too. It doesn’t seem that long ago when people were reluctant to talk politics/ideas – this seems to be changing.

        The MSM line has got to have some connect with reality – and the big problem for them now is the impossibility of putting a positive spin on Islam.

      • Many thanks for your reply SIII. I hope you’re right. (The post was mine – I didn’t realise I hadn’t signed in.)

    • I should probably try to address a communications issue that is caused by the limitations of language with regard to the “their women” thing.

      The problem is that the words like “my” or “our” get used to express both ownership and identification. Unfortunately, due to propaganda, many people will jump to the conclusion that something intended to express identification is instead expressing ownership.

      I could get into some Buddhist psychology here and say that at a very low level identification and ownership are the same cognitive phenomenon, but simply identifying with something doesn’t mean that someone has any desire to control it beyond basic protection. For example, a Catholic may see a Virgin Mary statue and their mind will go “hey I’m Catholic, that’s catholic, that’s me!” (that’s “mine”) but they don’t actually expect to legally own or control the placement of the statue or anything else about it. Instead, they just identify with it and thus get upset if it is vandalized, will try to defend it against vandalism, etc.

      Similarly, live humans will be identified with to different degrees and this is what gives people the urge to defend or help them.

      So, if men are talking about “our women” I would say this actually expresses identification with (the situation of women) rather than ownership of. I would hope that would be a good thing.

  5. These wars all based on lies. They say they are fighting against terrorism whilst being actually ALIGNED with terrorists! This is going to destroy the planet. These psycho religious divisions will never end.

    All of this for nothing.

  6. There are prophecies, which I find probable, of a Russian invasion of Europe – culminating in some civilizational turning-point, possibly involving nuclear devastation. Only recently it occurred to me that it could be to free Europe of Islamic rule.

  7. Woe to you, oh Earth and Sea, for the Devil sends the Beast with Wrath, because he knows the time is short. Let him who Hath understanding recognize the name of the Beast, for it is one from history. It’s name is Islam.

  8. I’m just not smart enough to get this. Europe’s leaders let in the Muslim hordes, even welcomed them. I presume it is in the name of multi-culti. What they were thinking I have no idea. Did they think the Muslims would become Europeans? Never read any history recently (or ever) I guess.

    and now they are surprised? Reminds me of that story of the snake crossing the river with some little critter that the snake offered to take across. When they get there, the snake turns on the critter and the critter says “But I thought you were my friend. Why did you do this to me?” and the snake says “because I’m a snake.”

    • There is an old also Muslim proverb along these lines. As best I can remember, it goes thus:

      ‘A scorpion and frog find themselves together on the bank of a flooding Wadi.
      The scorpion turns to frog and says ‘I have to get across. Will you take me there on your back?
      The frog, backing off a little replies, ‘If I do that you will sting me, and kill me.’

      ‘No’, the scorpion replies, ‘If I do that we will both drown and that wouldn’t make sense.’
      The frog considers this for a while and then replies, ‘O.K. that seems reasonabl, I suppose. Hop on then, and we shall cross together.’

      That they do, and half way across the scorpion stings the frog in the nape of its neck.
      With its dying breaths the frog says, ‘But, but, where’s the logic, now we’re both going to drown!’

      The scorpion chortles and replies, ‘There is no logic. I am a Muslim.’

      The frog can no longer answer.

  9. Faye is always at pains to point out the facts behind his projections. He doesn’t make stuff up, or pretend that reality is something other than it is. That’s what makes him so compellingly readable.

  10. I haven’t read more than the post about these books but I have seen similar things that support this from different perspectives or speculated myself. They all involve removal of US influence in Europe and the increase of Russian influence. The Peristroika Deception – fall of USSR is an illusion. General Pacepa – who defected made claims about Soviet influence in Islamic world. The leftists in Europe are supporting this migration – inexplicably. The population appears to be affected by ideological subversion. They can’t see the truth to save themselves. Several KGB defectors have said the USSR would appear to fall but would not. Eastern Europe is responding differently to the migration than Western Europe. If there is an civil war of some form who will have the freedom to save Europe? The US will probably be bogged down with their own large migrant population or Muslim population that won’t be interested in taking part or at least taking part on behalf of the native European population. That leave Russia. Just wondering and speculating.

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