8 thoughts on “Marine Le Pen on Muslim Jew-Hatred in France”

1. If you are not a Jew but hate them, you are Anti-Jew. If you are not a Muslim but trust them, you are suicidal.

2. There’s no need to show preference for either of these groups! They are both perverse messianic cults. The idea of a ‘chosen people’ or ‘submitting to god’s will’ undermines true spirituality… something neither group has in the slightest. Just read Schopenhauer’s opinions on both.

3. Holy crap! The above two comments are really something! I don’t know how you can even compare either of these “groups”. Islam is composed of regressive barbarians; Jews are prime movers of civilization. There will always be exceptions from either camp. But in total, I’d pick the civilization-creators over the civilization-destroyers any day of the week.

   • Heartily seconded, Plum. A couple of years or so ago, a prominent Egyptian physicist died; he was one of only two arabs to have received a Nobel in the sciences, and worked at a Western university.

     Jews have Nobels coming out of their ears (apologies to non-anglophones; this is a common expression in Engish-speaking countries); tiny Israel has four of the top 200 universities worldwide. Whether this is due to relative intelligence or culture, I don’t know for sure; I suspect it’s a combination of the two.

     • Correct. You need only refer to Google or Wikipedia. Of over 900 Nobel prize awards, 20% were won by Jews, even though Jews make up only 0.2% of the global population. In contrast there have been only 12 Muslim Nobel Laureates, 7 of which were Nobel Peace Prizes. The discrepancy is glaring.

4. Ah ha. An opportunity to say a word or two on ‘chosen people’ – grammar as per Amrit above.

   First though a sentence on ‘submitting to God’s will’.

   Of the two groups mentioned by Amrit, the dangerous one is number two because as we know according to many of the followers of Muhammad they will kill you or enslave you or do all sorts of terrible things to people you don’t even know simply because they want you, in fact, demand you live a certain way. So girls can’t go to school or show a bare shoulder or leave home without a male relative; Jews – ah, forget about it, we all know that story; same of course with other religious groups, should I mention them all or leave it just leave it at Bahais and Christians in the ME; gays? run for the hills boys and girls; women who wear pussy hats, other than in Iran on a dais with the mullahs just get out of town; and on and on.

   Then there are ‘chosen people.’ Strange, to me, it seems every religious group kind of considers themselves “chosen”. Otherwise, they wouldn’t pray to the G-d they believe is their G-d. So Amrit, and not to pick a fight with you but to say in quiet and in good spirit, Jews aren’t a messianic cult. They are a religious grouping, and in that religious grouping are many diverse ways to approach G-d, or the concept of G-d if one prefers. Christians certainly believe in what they believe in, and as long as they are not punching anyone in the nose to believe it too, why good for them. But just because they don’t say it, they feel chosen and honored to I suppose, pray to Christ. Same with Mormons, same with 7th Day Adventists, same with those who practice voodoo, etc. There is, of course, an exception for the Aztecs who threw all those good-looking maidens off their pyramids, etc. And the Hindus, apparently their G-d or gods have told them that cows are sacred. And I bet they feel real good that their G-d or gods have chosen to tell them that.

   So if someone thinks they are part of the ‘chosen’ group you are obviously alluding to and wants to think so, well since I know a few of those people (and most are very nice) I use for you a phrase that members of that group have used since time immemorial and psst! we, or rather they, should have the phrase copyrighted, “what business is it of yours?”

   Now I am going to concede something to Amrit here. One of the problems of organized religion is that once embedded in it one has to find enough free will to change directions if one can overcome their group. Fine with me if one wants to change and/or leave. And I for one wish them luck.

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   I was gonna sign off after my little joke, “what business is it of yours” but I got the feeling (since you mentioned only two religions), you have not thought about the consequences of what you said. So with respect, and I really do mean that, what are these ‘chosen ones’ supposed to do to protect themselves where they are, and where they often find themselves not wanted for whatever reason. Since most of them don’t go around hurting people, what are they supposed to do?
   This spiritualism is very nice when you are free to be a blithe spirit with few worldly worries. Hey I ain’t talking about me, I live in a free country, the U.S.A. and I can get spiritual whenever I wish.

   I’m kinda a little sorry that you labeled Jews as a messianic cult. F Schopenhauer.

   And O, three cheers for Marine Le Pen who I never thought was an anti-Semite. (And for the record if it matters to Amrit, I don’t think he or she is either – not that he or she has to care either way).

   Mike from Brooklyn

5. I empathize with Le Pen. She’s being asked to perform a totally symbolic and useless virtue signalling as an ode to the influence of the establishment Jewish and political groups. While she is focused on the real battle.

6. The demand by president Francis Kalifat of the CRIF that Le Pen denounce anti-Semitism from the right was not a demand made in good faith but was a blatant virtue signal in its own right and a deliberate insult directed towards Marine Le Pen.

   Le Pen has no blemish on her record of practicing or supporting anti-Semitism nor of seeking support from the ‘Le Pen supporting right’ of Kalifat’s fantasies.

   Kalifat’s motivation would be based, in part, on his wish to publicly declare that for him there are no enemies to the left, a delusion on his part, overlaid with a dose of anti-Gentilism derived from his own religious upbringing.

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