30 thoughts on “The Green-Antifa Synergy, Part 2”

1. The German Green Party was part-founded by Herbert Marcuse and as such they must be regarded as far,far, far left. Greens are known as water melons, green on the outside but red on the inside. All this holier than thou bunk about human rights is just leftist untruth.
   As for Anifa. my sympathy lies with MissPiggy who had to translate this garbage.

   • The far-far-far Left is also known as the Lemming Left.

   • This seems a bit far- fetched to me. He spent only few months in Europe after the war and died here on a visit.
     His intellectual impact should however not be underrated.
     I did not find any hints that he co-founded the greens.

   • “must be regarded as far,far, far left. Greens are known as water melons, …”

     Correct — today. In the seventies there was also a rather conservative wing; environmentalists, often with a science background (myself included; I was a sympathiezer). My impression was, the left jumped on the bandwaggon: there was a topic to engage people …

   • Former Czech President Vaclav Havel famously said that “Green is the new red.”

2. Sorry, I forgot to fill in the appropriate blans. The previous comment was not anon, it was me.

3. A coloful synergy it is indeed : mix red and green , and you get a brown mess …

4. Nope, I’m not going to torture myself listening to these idiots.

5. Oh dear, this part is extremely cringy even compared to the first one…
   “It doesn’t matter where you come from, it matters where you want to go to” yeah right. While I agree that it should be possible for a person to emigrate if they want to become a fulfledged member of a different country (let’s say a Frenchman falls in love with Brazil), that doesn’t mean it works the same en masse. In my hometown we have a rising number of Eastern European workers (predominantly Ukraine, Romania and Bulgaria, many Slovaks too) and the number of violent crime is on the rise at the same time. Now there are different subjects responsible for that and I don’t wanna go too deep into it, but bottom line is: mixing of cultures doesn’t work. Maybe it’s normal to stab eachother in Ukraine or Romania, but it’s abnormal in Czechia (it’s never been common in all of our history, as far as I’m aware). If relatively close cultures clash like that, how could a person from India, Senegal or Peru fit in? That sounds nearly as impossible as having an Amazon Indian or a traditionally living Aborigine put into Paris and say they’re gonna do just fine. Unless that person is provided exceptional support (on the costs of the host population) they have no chance of fitting in EVER. And that’s the difference between mass migration and individuals comming in. Because an individual that began to love a foreign country enough to want to move there will have studied it’s history, customs, culture, language, and and and. He or she will be prepared to join the society there and it’s still gonna be harsh.

   What’s even more disturbing is their claim that marriage is something good, but not exclusive to straight and now gay couples, but needs to be accepted even in polyamorous…urhm…groups? Or how I should call it? No wonder such people are besties with muslims, they already have polygamy there!
   Remember when LGBT+ activists got appaled when others said they’re not gonna stop at their rights and always want more? That’s what this is! They got their rights, registered partnership, now marriage, I don’t know if adoption by gay couples is legal in Germany, one would think they already got all there is, right? And suddenly it’s “we need rights for groups of people to be able to marry”. Yeah, they’re never going to stop, unless they are stopped by the majority.

   The rest is just as bad. Ideas that sound nice, but when further developed are all at the cost of those earning more, without inspiring those with less to work harder.

   • AK47,
     sorry to disappoint you, but stabbing was a regular thing in central Europe in the middle ages.Hence the law in many german cities that students( yes, you read right) had no right to carry daggers and swords into towns.
     Since then, the so- called process of civilisation developped, described by the eminent Norbert Elias.
     This happened through public policing( constables in England were the first i.m.h.o) and centrally ruled military forces in the emerging nation states as opposed to tribal structures.
     As we all know, some parts of the world did not share this evolution, giving over private feuds to state authorities, or even consanguin marriages which are a token of the mistrust in anybody you are not related to.
     Trust in you fellow human is the root of modern civilized organisms and behaviour. The other thing is just being reimported, though nobody missed it.

     • I suspect within AK47’s lifetime, stabbing was less common than now.

       From what I have read, part of the reason for weapon restrictions for students was due to the occassional attacks from student groups against the townsfolk and farmers.

       Apparently, much like today’s left-wing socialist students, these students of the middle ages were full of angry notions of how evil were their parents and other hard working citizens.

       • That is, that a form of early left-wing socialism was rampant in the middle ages among university students.

         Armed conflict between ‘Town and Gown’ was often and bloody enough to insitute measures to control armed gangs of students.

       • Indeed in my lifetime stabbings only ocured among gypsy populations and were rarely aimed against the majority population. I remember one such case from the early 90’s, it’s a bit of a funny story, really.

         Historic reenactment is fairly popular across the country and there are several “medieval fairs” in town through the year. During one of them (they generally take place in the city center and in the 90’s that area was the gypsies’ turf) a gypsy attempted to steal the cashbox from one of the stands. The neighbouring blacksmith noticed it and whipped the gypsy, making him flee. But he came back soon with a friend, this time to beat the blacksmith up. He whipped them again. A little later they came back again, this time two cars, each stuffed with maybe seven people, armed with knives and machetes. And they went after the blacksmith. This time he didn’t stand a chance, but his wife came running to the reenactors who just finished a play and they went to help the blacksmith with swords and everything.

         Back then we also didn’t have a municipal police force, but we had the so-called “black sheriffs”, who were essentially individuals trained by the German military (but Czechs ethnically). Their stay was just across the square, so someone alarmed them too and they joined the battle. So you had this group of gypsies, medieval knights and sheriffs battling each other, it was remarkable. Eventually, the attacking gypsies were arrested and sentenced for assault.

         The icing on the cake is one of the reenactors, who was a gypsy too, he got arrested and his reenactment group had to go to the cell one by one and confirm he’s one of them, otherwise the sheriffs would’ve kept them there with the attackers.

         But I drifted off, haha.

         It seems whenever a certain group is doing too well they will start acting like the far left. The only modern difference is probably the victimhood idea. And the fact that those lib[erals]s have no fighting skills whatsoever.

     • Czechia was never a part of Germany though, aside from both being members of the Holy Roman Empire, and the cultural differences were already there back then (or rather they were even bigger back then). Anyway, I am not aware of any such law from our history and I dare say we more developed back then and richer for sure (partially because we were always one country, while Germany was crumbled into many tiny states). Not disputing stabbings never happened though, especially among drunk lower classes, I’m sure. But as I said, that’s only as far as my knowledge goes, so I’m not going to argue any more than this.
       According to Wikipedia, the first police in the modern sense was established in Paris in 1667, though I’m sure proper Englishmen would despute that 😀

       • Hi AK 47,
         I checked again and found out that violence in the days of olde was closely related to excessive drinking, mostly of beer in the northern countries. But even in Renaissance Italy, there were violent street gangs composed by upperclass brats who fought with knives.( Philippe Ariès)

         Students today do still have a reputation for binge drinking. And here Czechia has its undisputed merits, thinking of Pilsen brews and others. Nothing to be blamed for.

6. Nothing very surprising here, the Nazis were very Green in their policies after all

   • This should give you (and others) a chuckle, Marinka: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/reports/misc/titles_listener_suggestions_20070312.shtml

   • And they loved animals!

7. This Islamic Greens are useless idiots big time , just look at this faces !!, no borders and no limits of this savages, !!, disgusting traitors..nothing else ..

8. As idiotic as the policies being discussed, at least there was no discussion of violently attacking opponents. In fact, they talked of engaging their enemies in public debates.

   Other than that, the case for free pot continues afire. She wishes to get children off welfare by giving them more public benefits. She wishes to make neighborhoods safe for children by sabotaging the efforts of families to move away from crime-infested neighborhoods through the tactic of moving the criminals into housing next to where the families flee.

   She wishes to sand over the differences associated with color, nationality, sex. She needs to give her position on differences caused by IQ. I would love to refer her to an affirmative-action doctor for heart or neurological surgery.

   It seems a bit counter-productive to me to assign responsibility to multiple people for raising children. I’m a strong supporter of extended family assistance, but I think a parent couple should be the gatekeeper: they decide who is and who isn’t responsible for the raising of their children. And they take the responsibility as well. When you get 3 or 4 or 5 people legally assigned parenting rights, what do you do when the arrangement goes south, and no one wants to take responsibility by themselves?

   As far as open borders, that dog has been beaten thoroughly to death. Open-border advocates are unable to learn and not susceptible to rational arguments.

9. “the case for free pot continues”

   This is one of the ridiculous aspects of this.

   I know that pot use is a tradition among young socialists but if they actually thought it through with intelligence they would see that it is another form of ‘opiate for the masses’.

   I am quite against legalisation of pot but I’m beginning to think that if it helps to keep the socialist, unemployed, bored, violent video game playing youth more calm, then by all means – let them get stoned and stay that way.

10. I do not believe that civilization in any sense of the word that I recognize can exist if the attitude expressed by these Greens prevails.

    Moreover, I think the average person has little sense of the precarious nature of civilization.

11. Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.
    Where have I heard that before? And I’m an atheist!

    • I believe the quote you mention is “Love and do what you will”…it’s from Saint Augustine.

      • Wiki says it was Aleister Crowley, the early 20th century English magician and, according to some, satanist.

        • Shows how ignorant wiki is. I learned the whole quote from Augustine when I was about 12. It’s from his sermons, some of which managed to survive the Islamic invasion of North Africa after his death. Hippo wasn’t spared destruction.

        • BTW, thanks for your response. I checked it out to be sure I had remembered it correctly and found a link to a book by an Italian that’s just right for Gaudete Sunday (next one up in Advent). Now that was serendipitous.

          BTW, Crowley probably knew he was borrowing it and didn’t think it would be necessary to point to the obvious for his audience…back a hundred years ago when people read books.

          • Thank Dymphna. Ellie’s original quote is as Crowley is supposed to have said it, but I daresay he was paraphrasing Augustine.

12. “Trust in you fellow human is the root of modern civilized organisms and behaviour.”

    One of the most important points here on the site today. Along with this:

    “Moreover, I think the average person has little sense of the precarious nature of civilization.” Or its fragility.

13. ““Moreover, I think the average person has little sense of the precarious nature of civilization.” Or its fragility.””

    And we conservatives are now the new thin line separating the citizenry from complete collapse of civility.

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