The mayor of the town Oldham by Manchester in northern England is a Muslim, and he recently opened a council meeting with a request to an imam to lead the room in prayer.
Just for the moment, let’s forget about what would happen to a Christian in England who wanted to open an official meeting with a prayer. Assuming, of course, that you could find a believing Christian elected to public office. Even in USA, Christians who want to include prayers in public meetings are increasingly under siege from militant atheists.
The English-language portions of the imam’s prayer included the usual abrogated verses that are a taqiyya staple in “interfaith” circles. But what about the Arabic parts? As we have reported in the past, Islamic prayers typically include a recitation of Koran 1:7, the final verse of The Fatiha. 1:7 mentions two groups of people who have failed to win the favor of Allah: those who have incurred his wrath, and those who have “gone astray” or are “misguided”. Authentic hadith quote Mohammed as saying that the former are the Jews, and the latter are the Christians.
Did the imam in Oldham by Manchester recite Koran 1:7, or something similar? In any case, you can actually hear an English paraphrase of that verse in part of his prayer!
If you understand Arabic and can make out what he says, please leave a summary in the comments.
Many thanks to Vlad Tepes for uploading this video:
Just the sight of those people bowing their heads is enough to make me sick. Their “virtue signalling” today will cost them tomorrow, that’s for sure. I wouldn’t trade places with them for anything. They’ll spend eternity shovelling coal, heating up the furnaces … sweat blinding them … right next to Hitler. No water. Ever.
Josef Stalin behind them with a machine gun, killing them every time they stop to draw breath. Over and over again … for eternity.
Our father who art hateful
Hateful be thy name
Thy hatefulness come
Thy hatefulness be done
On earth as it is in heaven… with virgins
Give us this day our daily massacres
And forgive us our murders As we won’t forgive those we pretend murder against us
And lead us into temptations and into evil
– Arabic is not my native language but I think this is what he says
Me too.Absolutely disgraceful.Is that Chisti in the tea cosy to the right?
This is so despicable and shocking that it’s beyond words!!
To see these white English post-Christians with their bowed heads–these post-Westerners who have already forfeited their country–fills me with loathing.
I want to cry. Maybe, too, read some classic British satiric literature (Swift, Pope, Lamb, Jerome K. Jerome); or, maybe listen to something more cathartic and violent (Gilbert and Sullivan or Ray Davies won’t do…like this!
Sex Pistols: Holidays in the Sun (1977)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ah1JM9mf60
I picked up the newspaper this morning baby,
and the news was bad …
I picked up the newspaper this morning baby,
and the news was so bad …
I know I’m not so perfect, baby,
but I’d hate to see the whole world die …
Graham Bond – Bad News Blues
Nick: Thanks for the Graham Bond. It was nearly a revelation; I listened to it four times consecutively!! Great hammond organ, sax, drumming, vocals…and lyrics.
(I once owned The Sound of 65 on vinyl, but haven’t listened to or thought about Graham Bond in 30 years, since I was in my mid-20s. Subsequently, I dispensed with Korner, Mayall, Davies, Cotton, Baldry, FMac-Green, Yardbirds et al and relied almost exclusively on that great Jagger/Richards outfit for my forays into British R&B. My loss! Them beloved Kinks weren’t much of an R&B band. Lamentably, Even Pete Townshend dismisses all but the Stones in his assessment of that scene. See his Stones induction speech at the R&R Hall of Fame, please. )
Nevertheless, not Bond’s piece nor The Clash could capture the anger, disillusionment, alienation, dismissiveness or impulse towards violence I was feeling upon viewing that Oldham council meeting video. Holidays in the Sun was perfect!! 😉 “I’m gonna go under the Berlin Wall. Please don’t be waiting there for me!”
I vowed many years ago, when Londoners first elected Red Ken Livingstone as mayor, that I would never return to that city. I will certainly–reinforced by the video–never again visit the UK. As for Ireland, they can fly their Palestinian flag over city hall to their heart’s content. They’ll never see me, again.
All of Europe from Stettin to Trieste westward is lost to oblivion.
“After Charlottesville” how far behind is America? What’s the over/under on the number of years until the Jefferson Memorial in Washington DC (to be renamed?), one of the country’s most sublime edifices, is defaced and transformed into the National Mosque? 35 years? 40? 50?
Nope, the Washington National Masjid has already been established in the structure where the Washington National Cathedral used to be housed. (Picture)
What was the English patriotic song again?
Rule Brittania .
Brittnia rules the waves .
We shall never, never, be slaveves !
Yes!
For He Is An Englishman – HMS Pinafore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6_vyGuhkfA
If one understands what is happening, then dealing with all this can really cost …
BOC – Veteran of The Psychic Wars
Armageddon! Cowards ! sheep!
This is how Armageddon is orchestrated by small, simple acts like these but will grow into horrific battles because of the cowardly acts of the sheep. The sheep dumb driven beasts. They cannot or will not think or be able to see the results of this cowardice in 20 years.
How come the whole country, the whole Continents, turn to dhimmis voluntarily. Either we suffer from Mr Bumble ( Oliver Twist), or we suffer from jelly fish like these who lack resistance, clear thinking and wisdom.
Who plunged us in this pitch black darkness and why? Is the world being prepared for a cataclysm?
We cannot tell the truth. Truth is only being discussed at home in whispers. We are forced to be hypocrites: We know the truth but cannot say it. Anchors, reporters, others, know the truth but bandy around the Fake truth manufactured by the Minister of Truth.
WE cannot say the truth why and how the woman died. Trump is forced to manufacture another truth not the truth that comes from the keen five senses.
Did the Traitors suffer from the same symptoms in 1914, and 1939?
You cannot or should not oppress a segment of society if they are meek. That oppression will wake them up.
If Europe and the west in general stop invading themselves by muslims, pursue common sense, dismantle the diabolical EU, and nations of Europe build their relations on the lessons of WWI and WWII, and other chronic European conflicts, and on the beautiful original principles of UN, not the present ones dictated by muslim nations, then we might live in peace.
All our problems come from importing invaders mindlessly, and we have no will to decide what is wrong and what is right. For that we take our clues from hostile imams. We are so stupid we mistake our foes for friends.
Sins are flying in our faces.
This is too much for me.
I can neither believe my eyes nor figure out how in the world the Brits are going to get out of this one with their heads intact.
They’re not. Don’t expect the revolution to start in the sceptered isles.
Islam is advancing into British political life through the town hall, where they are able to use block votes very effectively. There are many towns and suburbs like this. This photo is a peek into the future.
Don’t shed tears for the English. This is what they vote for. This is what they want.
Sadly there are plenty of dhimmi in the US who think it would be terrific if it looked like Mauritania…or Oman…
It certainly wasn’t what I voted for. The “tyranny of the majority” here we come … after the elite have brainwashed the bewildered herd, so that the majority will go along with your Satanic plans …
Who says prayer isn’t powerful. Ask Allah for a little Kafir conquest and, bada-bing bada-boom, your Muslim outreach brings you Christian upreach as the whole pack joins in mutual surrender.
Allah-hu Akbar!! This is almost too easy. How can so many defenseless chumps be found on one island? It’s as if they evolved with no natural predators and now find themselves having their guts sucked out by invading lampreys.
APPALLING!!!! My God, is there among those Britons NOBODY who will stand up????? I can’t believe what I am seeing and hearing! That… stupid woman, who walks right behind the “mayor”… how is it possible she does not realize that a few years hence, she will be forbidden to walk in on a meeting with bare head??
Mike-
In a few years she won’t even be allowed in the conference room door!
The imam successfully MISquotes the Koran.
He solemnly expresses the OPPOSITE of what the Koran actually says.
The critical words “unless it be for….” are omitted.
See “Oldham Council is Being Lied To” at Liberty GB
https://libertygb.org.uk/news/oldham-council-being-lied
What a bunch of absolute clowns.
That he is allowed to get clean away with misquoting the Koran’s Sura 5:32 ( which in its entirety actually sanctions murder) and failing to mention the sanctioning of crucifixion and lopping off hands and feet in the very next verse comes as no surprise. It is done on a regular basis on the BBC. Our then Deputy PM (Nick Clegg) used the very same misquote after Lee Rigby was murdered – and nobody has ever challenged it.
They get away with it because in civil round table debates in Europe and America, the muslims always pull out the quotes of the violent, hateful, angry, revengeful Christian God in the OT, and this nearly always shuts the oppenent up and knocks him off his Judeo-Christian high-horse.
Which is rather funny. Because Muslims believe, that the Old and New Testament are forged books.
And still they quote it to prove something… 😉
Btw. For Christians the NT is the one that is religious and theological relevant.
And if one is to compare those books with something from Islam the closest thing would be the Ahadith (though a poor comparison).
While the Quran has its closest parallel in Jesus Christ as Messiah, Son of God (the word has become flesh…). Muslims do believe that the Quran as the word of allah is also part of allah, and that the original Quran though revealed to Muhammed is not on earth but still by allah. Eternal and uncreated like this allah-guy himself (men has only valid arabic transcripts and unvalid ones in other languages). So never step into the trap to compare the Bible with Quran…
So much for respect of one another’s culture and religious heritage, eh. With Muslim mayors come Muslim prayers. I wonder if those Christians realize that to pray “in the name of” means not simply an identifying title but all that the “name” represents.
To pray in the name of Jesus, for example, is to pray in the spirit of the one who is the “Suffering Servant,” one who takes our suffering upon Himself. Quite the contrast to what is expected of followers of Muhammad, let alone those who disavow him and Islam.
Every Islamic prayer is a spit into the face of Christians and all other Nonmuslims.
And I don`t mean this metaphorical, it is the content and message of these prayers.
If people only knew – or finally would take notice of!
The folks in this video are just being good dhimmi for their masters.
Heck, in a few years I bet half of them will have recited the shahada and be nose-to-bum at the mosque every Friday.
And be first in line for beheading once the Muslims have taken care of all who decline to submit to Allah, for there is always someone who isn’t quite Muslim enough for the true believers.
Yes, it’s 5:32 as someone already mentioned and gave the meaning.
Just for fun: According to Tafsir Al-Mizan, enlightenment on verses 5:27 to 5:32, one of the implied meanings is: “Koran does not allow people to [i]think[/i] because it’s a dangerous activity. Thinking is only allowed for those who fear Allah”. I am pretty sure they selected this verse for the propaganda value of it’s “literal” meaning, but sometimes they chose a verse for one of the “implied” meanings that’s not obvious to the public, sort of having fun with the audience. It’s a quite popular game, and one can’t tell what’s really on their minds when they launch a verse.
Oldhamers tried to fight back in 2001 but the police sided with the muslims. They were attacking whites just for walking through Glodwick. People decided they’d had enough when they put a WW2 vet in hospital (the council’s response to which being “a multi-agency team has been set up to look at ways of improving the lot of the Pakistani and Bangladeshi communities” – see http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1296007.stm)
There were attacks by both sides, including Pakistanis firebombing pubs and white houses and businesses. But somehow every single person convicted was white.
I came across this video @YouTube “Conspiracy Boulder News”
CHANNEL LINK: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1J9XYqY1Wi7yiG4ksAbHIw
This Video .. (the same one as your subject videoY) caught my eye ..
“Outrageous Reaction to English Mayor who asks Imam to Pray to Allah Before Official Meeting” .. Published on Aug 15, 2017
LINK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goQOlBQHMsQ
DESCRIPTION:
“Hard working and gregarious British Mayor Shadab Qumer, officially “the Worshipful the Mayor of Oldham 2017-2018,” arranges for his Imam to say Islamic prayers to Allah to open an official government meeting. You’ll never guess the reaction from the Brits.” ..
Transcript .. (may be auto-generated or human provided (see explanation links below);
0:00 [Music]
0:04 hello and welcome to conspiracy Boulder
0:07 you’re not a boulder year
0:09 [Music]
0:58 [Music]
1:20 you
1:29 got a problem my Imam to say prayers
1:42 can I call on my Imam to surpress
1:54 you
2:00 Thunder Lalaji open our domain salatu
2:04 wassalam wanna see the gambia
2:06 yawn mousseline ma Godfather billahi min
2:09 ash-shaytani r-rajim bismillahi
2:10 r-rahmani r-rahim la mano catellena
2:15 Samba very nursing officer tantino de
2:18 Vaca and nama catalan acidemia so the
2:21 Kalama learn and are we following weeks
2:24 of increased security measures in
2:26 response to the increased threat level
2:29 it is necessary to remember those who
2:31 are no longer with us
2:33 no religion nor culture tolerates
2:36 extremist behavior the Quran says
2:40 whoever kills a body lawfully or for
2:44 creating disorder in the land it is as
2:47 if he has killed the entire of mankind
2:51 I’d like to request everyone to join me
2:54 in prayer for those words left us always
2:58 be upon Allah Lord of all the world’s
3:01 the most affectionate the most merciful
3:04 master of the Day of Judgment you alone
3:07 we worship you alone we seek help from
3:24 [Music]
3:30 [Music]
3:49 [Music]
4:07 you
4:11 [Music]
About Transcripts .. YT may generate a transcript for an uploaded video; or a user may upload a transcript of their own ..
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2734799?hl=en
https://waxy.org/2014/01/dirty_fast_and_free_audio_transcription_with_youtube/
As you will read “gambia”, “catalan” and “Kalama” (Washington?) are mentioned as is “catellena” . Catellena may be a derogatory reference to Catherine of Aragon.
About Catalina De ARAGON (Queen of England) – Tudor Place ..
CATALINA DE ARAGON. Queen of England. Born: 15 Dec 1485, Alcala de Henares, Madrid, Spain. Died: 7 Jan 1536, Kimbolton Castle, Hunts, England. Buried: Peterborough Cathedral, England .. http://tudorplace.com.ar/aboutCatalinadeAragon.htm
Catherine of Aragon –
Catherine of Aragon (Spanish: Catalina de Aragón), … Giles Tremlett’s biography ..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_of_Aragon
Catalina on Spanish means ..
Catherine, poop
http://www.spanishdict.com/translate/Catalina
(i,e variant noted)
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/barcelona-terror-attack-van-plows-pedestrians-live-updates/
Britain -yje UK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMqWlC8agYg&list=PLgh2yH7h9mmFcMczjHLcmMrqBjGo8F7de&index=2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMqWlC8agYg&list=PLgh2yH7h9mmFcMczjHLcmMrqBjGo8F7de&index=2
NOTE: The Full text of the ayat (verse) referenced @ 2:40 .. to 2:51 – which both mayor and imam will know – is set down below; the five authorative, are given .. The shari’ah point of law to note is that it is to submitting Children of Israel this verse is directed. While “spreading mischief” in the land means disobeying or denying allah and his law, e.g. apostates and disbelievers (scoffers). Thus the children of Israel, once bowed to allah, may kill apostates and scoffers, in the same way believers are obligated to do.. Imam is an Imam (/ ɪ ˈ m ɑː m /; Arabic: إمام imām, plural: أئمة aʼimmah) is the name of an Islamic leadership position. It is most commonly used as the title of a worship leader of a mosque and Muslim community among Sunni Muslims. In this context, imams may lead Islamic worship services, serve as community leaders, and provide religious guidance. For Shi’a Muslims, the imam has a more central meaning and role in Islam through the concept of Imamah; the term is only applicable to those members of Ahl al-Bayt, the house of the prophet Muhammad, designated as infallibles .. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imam
transliterations ..
Yusuf Ali 5.32: On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person – unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land – it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our messengers with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land.
Shakir 5.32: For this reason did We prescribe to the children of Israel that whoever slays a soul, unless it be for manslaughter or for mischief in the land, it is as though he slew all men; and whoever keeps it alive, it is as though he kept alive all men; and certainly Our apostles came to them with clear arguments, but even after that many of them certainly act extravagantly in the land.
Pickthal 5.32: For that cause We decreed for the Children of Israel that whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind. Our messengers came unto them of old with clear proofs (of Allah’s Sovereignty), but afterwards lo! many of them became prodigals in the earth.
Mohsin Khan: 5.32: Because of that We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land – it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind. And indeed, there came to them Our Messengers with clear proofs, evidence, and signs, even then after that many of them continued to exceed the limits (e.g. by doing oppression unjustly and exceeding beyond the limits set by Allah by committing the major sins) in the land!
Saheeh: 5.32: Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land – it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one – it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors.
http://www.hamascharter.com/assets/hamas-covenant-1988-source.pdf
This comment is way too long. People tend not to read things of this length, or at least that has been my experience in more than a decade of monitoring comment threads.
And you forgot to note that the “Conspiracy Boulder” You Tube site is satire. They state so at the beginning of the video you chose. IOW, it’s a spoof, meant to entertain.
Perhaps next time you could break your comment up into smaller sections.
The purpose of the post was to indicate a simple way communications are possible. I personally believe the text in the transcript was uploaded as opposed to auto generated; this because three lines begin capitalised, which according to the blurb is not automatic formatting. I have no idea who “Conspiracy Boulder News” are, other than what their YT “about” claims. But I allow for muh to be as spoofy and satirical as they incline. My impression was they were American muh (maybe from Kalama? I dont know). I do know the text in the transcript contains the word “catalan” and the vid. was uploaded the day before the Barca attack(s). I also thought it useful to remind folk different islamist divisions use different transliterations of the koran to subvert English speakers around them. The given example 5:32 emphasises all agree submitting Israelis may kill non-believers in the name of allah. Very attractive terms for some judging by the folk in subject video.
The given example 5:32 emphasises all agree submitting Israelis may kill non-believers in the name of allah. Very attractive terms for some judging by the folk in subject video.
What are you inferring here? And what is it you fail to understand about satire, beginning with the fact that it is not meant to be taken seriously?
Stop it.
I am not inferring anything. I am reading the Ayat as it is intended to be read. I must assume People working in our Government know what is said in public buildings as is their legal duty .. http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2011/20/section/27 .. The business of running this Country is well rewarded and must not be left in the hands of people not alert to a foreign constitution, or those attempting to employ (its) legislation, by prayer or otherwise, in our chambers of Governance ..
As for Stop it .. I do not know you, but whoever you are, you have no rhyme or reason to be so obnoxious and small in your comments to myself.
Clearly, as this thread demonstrates, not everyone (self included) believes admitting muh into Council Chambers to practice Taqiyya and/or subvert proceedings with sharia’ah.