The public prosecutor’s office (Openbaar Ministerie, OM) has decided to bring a case against Geert Wilders, the leader of the Party for Freedom (Partij voor de Vrijheid, PVV) in the Netherlands.
The PVV released the following statement this morning in reaction to the OM’s decision:
Wilders: Decision to prosecute me is incomprehensible
Wilders: “I have said what millions of people think and find. For the second time, one apparently wants to deal with someone who speaks the truth. It is a travesty that I have to defend myself in court for this. The Public Prosecutor would do better to devote his time to prosecuting jihadis instead of me. The Party for Freedom is the largest party in the polls. Apparently the elite does not like that.”
According to an article this morning in Fox News:
Firebrand Dutch lawmaker Geert Wilders to be prosecuted for ‘fewer Moroccans’ chant
THE HAGUE, Netherlands — Dutch authorities say they will prosecute lawmaker Geert Wilders for hate speech over a chant in which he asked his supporters whether they wanted more or fewer Moroccans in the Netherlands and they shouted back “Fewer! Fewer! Fewer!”
The announcement Thursday marks the second time Wilders has faced charges linked to his anti-immigrant and anti-Islam rhetoric. He was acquitted of similar charges in 2011 for comparing Islam with Nazism and calling for a ban on the Quran.
In a written statement, Wilders says he “said what millions of people think and believe.”
Prosecutors say they received more than 6,400 complaints about Wilders after his comments in March this year.
Wilders says authorities “should concentrate on prosecuting jihadis instead of me.”
And from Deutsche Welle:
Dutch far right politician Wilders to be tried for anti-Moroccan comments
Lawmaker Geert Wilders is to face prosecution for inciting racial hatred after a speech calling for “fewer Moroccans” in the Netherlands. Wilders has said he stands by his comments.
The public prosecutor in The Hague will begin legal proceedings against the far-right politician Geert Wilders “on charges of insulting a group of people based on race and incitement to discrimination and hatred,” prosecutors announced Thursday. No date has yet been set for the trial.
The charges are based on remarks made by Wilders on March 19 at a rally during local elections.
He asked his followers whether they wanted “fewer or more Moroccans in your city and in the Netherlands?”
To shouts of “Fewer! Fewer!” from the crowd, Wilders told them “We’ll take care of that.”
The incident led to 6,400 legal complaints being lodged against Wilders. Criticism was even voiced within his own Party for Freedom (PVV), which is leading opinion polls in the Netherlands and is currently the country’s fourth largest political party.
“Politicians may go far in their statements, that’s part of freedom of expression, but this freedom is limited by the prohibition of discrimination,” a prosecution statement said.
In a statement to the charges earlier this month, Wilders said that he did not retract any of his comments. “In my fight for freedom and against the Islamicisation of the Netherlands, I will never let anyone silence me. No matter the cost, no matter by whom, whatever the consequences may be,” he said.
Wilder’s anti-Islam rhetoric has got him into trouble before. In the past, the politician has compared the Koran to Hitler’s “Mein Kampf” and described Islam as a fascist religion.
Prosecutors lost a similar case against Wilders in 2011, when he was acquitted on hate-speech charges. The court ruled that he had targeted a religion, which is permitted under Dutch freedom of speech laws, rather than a specific ethnic group.
Hat tip: Fjordman.
An unrepentant serial thought offender at the spear point of a crime wave .
At what point can the state demand his lobotomy?
I did not know Moroccans are a separate race.
There could be no incitement to deport Moroccans since no one in the audience had the legal or physical power to cause there to be less Moroccans in the Peoples Republic of the Netherlands.
There was no incitement because no Dutch person (who may or may not have heard Mr. Wilders’ remarks) subsequent to the speech caused any Moroccan to leave the PPN. The English dictionary definition of “incite” means to cause something, not to encourage something. There were, in fact, more Moroccans in the PPN after the speech than before.
Quite so.
Nothing happened afterwards.
In addition, Wilders asked for the audience’s opinion. That is, he asked them a question. Lingustically and logically, that is entirely different from a command – where do you want to go? is entirely different from – go!
And saying that ‘we’ will act upon your opinion is again, entirely different from saying – ‘we’ want you to act upon ours!
Exactly, he asked a question. In doing so, I assumed he was following legal advice to avoid another prosecution. If he had asked “Do you want more or fewer Jews in the Netherlands?” and the crowd had replied “More”, how could he possibly be guilty of a hate crime? If they’d answered “Fewer” the same logic applies. He’s asking a question.
Alternatively if he had asked: “Do you want more Buddhists than Muslims in the Netherlands?” and the crowd responded “More Buddhists”, in what universe could that be a hate crime?
I suppose the Dutch authorities are seriously hoping some Muslim will assassinate him in the courtroom this time. Recall that Theo van Gogh’s murderer Bouyeri was protected by a bullet-proof cubicle during his trial; Wilders asked for the same protection during his last trial and it was denied to him.
Even better.
My free speech is non-negiotable.
This is the second time Mr Wilders is brought before a kangaroo court for defending me against the hate speech one can find in that [obscene intensifier] koran, This has got to stop! The prosecutors dont have the right to start procedures over and over again for something i believe is the right thing to say…
Either they ban that [obscene intensifier] koran – for hate speech- or they leave my politician alone!
If they have the guts to “convict”mr Wilders? Anything goes. I will consider that an illegal act by the rulling class which can only be solved by violent means.
Has mo and statan take over Europe?
Are The Dutch and European people going to overwhelm the European streets with RIOTS until such dictatorships and dictator courts and convictions are stopped?
Or they are too busy Riding With Jihadis to work for safety?
Who is in danger by the bay?
What perverted minds. Our world is the result of that.
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Can anyone on here put an email etc or actual address up to which protest can be addressed to the Dutch authorities?.
The prosecutors youtube channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIKLlsH4_Q4
And the website of the prosecutors office.
https://www.om.nl/organisatie/landingspagina/den-haag/contact/
mr Henk Korvinus being the actual prosecutor. mr Korvinus is also a party member of the rulling PVDA socialist.
Prosecutors and judges are not elected in the Netherlands. They are “appointed”. Its a “democracy” in name only.
Commented on youtube, anyway.
From WW2 Dutch Nazi collaborators to Moroccan and Turkey Mohammedan facilitators. A natural progression comes full circle. The first lot turned out to be pathetic losers. Plus ca change, plus c’est la meme chose.
I think that such actions by the authorities, and constant cries of racism, are in themselves incitement to riot/revolt. It is having the very opposite effect to that which they intend as can be seen by the rise in supposed “right-wing” objectors to the takeover of our countries. Whilst I am sure that there are probably many decent immigrants there are unfortunately many very very bad ones even those born to immigrant parents in the country of current residence. The problem is that it is impossible to judge which is which. It is common to hear such things as “he was a very polite and nice boy” when a terrorist is unmasked. That shows the scale of the problem. It will end in tears.
It’s a conundrum that can never be resolved. The decision to allow one type of foreigner with a vastly different culture and religion inevitably results in the terrorist or simple criminal element. They can’t be separated from the passive or cooperative ones significant segments of whom, more than likely, tacitly support the others.
The only two non-suicidal choices are:
1. Do not permit such foreigners to immigrate.
2. Remove those who have from your midst.
Anything less than these two actions means confusion on the part of decent natives on how to square the circle of applying civilized standards to uncivilized people, foreign inundation, and national and cultural suicide.
Mad mad mad mad world. So am I.
geert wilders is a real hero. how rare. how precious. god bless geert wilders.
I think that Geert Wilders is the best man in the whole of Europe.
He should be head of EU and he is a hero for all democracy and liberty loving people
How is “Moroccan” a race? It is a country made of different people, different races. The prosecutor needs to go back to high school.
Wilders has become the Elite Collective’s enemy number one. His popularity with what he utters publicly is now reflected in the rise of his political party. The Elite can see that so they are now compelled to prosecute in order to maintain their status quo.
Make no mistake, this is a shot across the bows of all those who support Wilders and who have brought Holland and the West to this point in time where we are all in danger of losing our countries. The Traitor Class has worked tirelessly over the past century to bring this all about so they must nip in the bud what they perceive could be their own undoing if not checked.
We all know that Wilders has done nothing wrong, even the Traitor Class know that, but the TRUTH of what Wilders speaks is no deterrent to their main agenda and goal, and they will be the first to say that. So this new charge of ‘inciting racial hatred’ must be vigorously defended as I am sure Wilders having been prosecuted previously is capable of doing. This political set up is more about deterring would be supporters of Wilders than actually trying to find him guilty of asking a supportive crowd what they, the crowd and not Wilders, thought.
In reality and criminally, the Prosecutor has no case, and what’s more, he knows it!
Actually, I have to disagree: the prosecutor probably has a pretty good case, unfortunately. Legally speaking, Geert Wilders is vulnerable.
Recently enacted laws in the Netherlands, like those in Britain, Sweden, Finland, France, Austria, and other European countries were crafted to criminalize statements as those Mr. Wilders made. The “Framework Decision” in the EU and the “Islamophobia is a form of racism” resolution at the UN have made sure that this kind of prosecution is no longer a violation of human rights or “international law”.
Less prominent people than Mr. Wilders are being convicted and fined (and occasionally incarcerated) all over Western Europe for saying things of this nature. So a conviction “on the merits”, totally within the rule of law, is quite conceivable.
For that reason, ginning up the publicity on his behalf is the best strategy. It’s already pretty dicey to prosecute a politician as popular as he is. It should be our goal to make it even more dicey by helping to make him even more popular.
So: spread the word by whatever means you can.
Yes, I do understand that Europe is now a legal minefield for those who wish to speak out against what is now imposed on them all by a few with an agenda.
In a saner world the charge/s would hold no water.
I understand the mentality that is behind the current ‘legal’ system, they all remind me of Julius Streicher, Hitler’s hanging judge, and no one sent to him got away with his/her life. To people like that everything is black and white. And there can be no gray areas when one works for the state that expects a favorable outcome for the state from their well paid for actions. Wilders is up against it, and the state will use every dirty trick to convict him of something they have absolutely no real evidence for based on a vague interpretation of ‘hate crime’, ‘incitement’ and ‘racial discrimination’ because in legal reality, they lack the real proofs of such vague ‘laws’.
And that must be the bitterest of pills that Mr. Wilders now has to swallow. I hope he defends his stance vigorously and that his party grows further because of his persecution.
And I forgot to add: The other more sinister aspect in convicting Mr. Wilders of ‘incitement to cause racial hatred’ is of course, and as a convicted criminal, he will no longer be able to remain a politician. If he can no longer remain a politician protected by the state from the very people the state in this case are supporting, then he becomes an exposed target of those who would see him dead.
Who said we defeated the Nazis in World War 2?
For the sake of clarity, Julius Streicher was an early intimate of Herr Hitler. He was a senior party member and the virulently anti-semetic editor of Der Sturmer. He was later the Gauleiter of Franconia.
I believe you are thinking of Party court member and State Secretary of the Reich Ministry of Justice Roland Freisler.
Did the Dutch Government ask the people whether they wanted the Moroccans BEFORE allowing them in?
The British Government (in other words, the EU) never asked its people whether they wanted Roma gypsies.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2876334/Schools-struggle-cope-thousands-Roma-children-arrive-unable-speak-English-warns-Ofsted.
To be sung to the tune of “Wilhelmus van Nassouwe”–with apologies to Adriaen Valerius and Philippus Marnix van Sint Aldegonde.
The triers of Geert Wilders,
Are they of true Dutch Blood?
Their fatherland is sinking,
Like cows they chew the cud.
The Prince of Orange goes rolling
In his crypt beneath the ground,
His feckless heirs go crawling,
Lest they be “bigots!” found.
It’s fine to mock at Jesus,
And to Christians be a foe.
But dare to mock Muhammad,
Just ask Theo van Gogh!
Now in the seat of scoffer,
Proud Euro-man now sits,
His naked @rse to offer,
To hairy Jihadid twits.
The fearsome Duke of Alva
So long was held at bay,
By Psalm-singing Sea Beggars
Who broke the Spaniards’ sway.
But now some young Jihadi
Sees buxom blondes as prey,
You dare not curse him, Laddie,
Lest PeeCee make you pay!
Feel free to send this to your nearest Netherlands diplomatic mission.
This is precisely what the Organization of Islamic Cooperation advocates through the UN. Another problem is that Europeans do not enjoy the First Amendment as we know it.
Wilders deserves the respect and support of free people everywhere. He is a true hero.
6400 complaints against Geert Wilders? Hmmmm, by whom?
Of course there are a lot more than 6400 muslims in the Netherlands, but also a good many of those who rank even lower on the evolutionary scale; who happily sell their country ‘down the river’, the traitorous scum known as islam appeasers and enablers–our own people who side with the enemy!
Let’s hope their names are remembered.
This is what happens after almost a century of various experiments in socialism and communism. Even the so-called conservatives in most European state are pathetic. The elites in charge and in particular their handmaiden brethren the legal profession, will be the first to be lined up and liquidated when the generic muslim population of most of the major centres passes 15%. It is already happening in a lot of areas. It is just that the mainstream media – mainly leftwing captured journalists – self censor and do not report.
Same thing happing in Australia. The only way out as I see it is what happened in 1848, the state does not have enough of an apparatus to stop the pushback.
Well, Geert Wilders is part-Jewish and stands firmly in favour of Israel and Europe’s beleaguered Jewish community, so presumably Israel and Europe’s beleaguered Jewish community will be standing firmly in favour of Geert Wilders. Et voilà:
The main problem I find here in England is that the state controlled media deliberately do not report on Geert Wilders, so the vast majority are unaware of this great man.
Paul Weston has had no media exposure either.
There is a collective conspiracy to avoid reporting on any issue relating to the growing counter jihad feelings within the ranks of the European people who are non muslim.
Hopefully in 2015 this will change. The rise of PEGIDA in Germany gives me optimism. (again not reported by the UK media) Interesting times. Something has to give way soon.
Come on Holger Danske. Now is the time. It’s almost 8 years since the Baron wrote about Holger. His time has now come.
People, you are coming about this all wrong. The state and the law ARE the issue. The argument must end up being that Wilders and the armed wing of the PVV (a) declare the court an agent of an occupying power (Merkel’s Germany and the EU) (b) demand the “court” anwser the PVV charge of treason against the people of the Netherlands, and (c) get ready to fight for their freedom.
That’ s the final end state, as we all now know. Why waste time getting there. I say if the PVV is serious about what they stand for, they need to take up arms.
Meaningful political change of the level required in Europe has historically only ever been achieved by force of arms. Continuing to be seen to “play by the rules” will never work, because the EU will esnure that the game is ALWAYS rigged.
Wilders and the PVV are at a crossroads: they must accept the inevitable slide as they are increasingly disempowered by the state, and its supporters must learn to shut up and give up their country, or it will have to arm itself. If there is another way, I am all ears, but I respectfully suggest there is not.
The IRA, the PLO, the ANC, all today in government, and only because they took up arms.
The question is: are you prepared to kill and die for what you believe? That is the ONLY political question that has EVER mattered throughout history. If your answer is “no”, then you will lose to the people whose answer is “yes”. Every. Single. Time.
I am kind of surprised at the level of naivete on display in Western anti-EU movements. You do know they will never stop until you are all true believers, behind bars, or dead, right? Anti-democratic forces aren’t interested in the results of elections.
You have some valid points, but the political process to redress the balance of wrongs is not yet beyond those who can grasp the situation.
Those organizations you mention and who took up arms against the state did so because they were revolutionaries tainted by communism and Islam. Is that what you want? To replace the current form of soft fascism with Communism?
It is not yet time to take up arms!
I think you are right, my reasoning being that we are getting nowhere at present, while the enemy (and islam IS the enemy) grows stronger every day throughout the entire western world.
I like to ask people who appease muslims:
Are you going to form a delegation, go to the nearest mosque and say “We give in, you rule us now”, and the answer is always:
“Oh no, we wouldn’t let things go that far”.
To which I answer:
So you’re going to make a stand–when?