Exposing and Slut-Shaming: How to Enforce Sharia in the Netherlands

The following video describes the way young Muslim women in the Netherlands are shamed by the exposure of intimate information — including nude photos of themselves — that is spread around the Internet via social media. The end result, whether the slut-shamers realize it or not, is to enforce Islamic law as it pertains to women.

It’s worth noting that such behaviors occur within a parallel society that interacts with Dutch culture, but is not part of it. Islamic inhabitants of the Netherlands exist in a separate world that is growing more and more distinct each year from the Dutch society that hosts it.

Many thanks to C for the translation, and to Vlad Tepes for the subtitling:

Video transcript:

00:00   Hello. In this video we will talk about the “exposing” of women online.
00:03   We went undercover because of my colleague Nisrine.
00:07   Yes, because I am in a chat group with women, who talk about make-up.
00:12   There I saw that people shared nude pictures of Moroccan girls on Telegram. —That’s similar to
00:18   WhatsApp, right? —Indeed, it’s like WhatsApp. But it goes beyond sharing just nude pictures.
00:21   Because also the girls’ phone numbers and social media are being shared.
00:25   We are being cussed out in the streets. Just defamed.
00:28   That’s what it comes down to, that is exposing. To be defamed.
00:31   Family, parents, acquaintances are hurt. Relationships are broken off.
00:35   Please, can you delete the pictures and videos?
00:38   I am begging you. I am begging you.
00:41   Really, everything was shared. Phone numbers, Snapchat accounts.
00:45   Apparently you are considered a whore if you show a little cleavage.
00:48   Everyone around me is involved in this.
00:53   This was just the tip of the iceberg. We have created an account on Telegram,
00:58   and we joined those groups for more than a week, which was pretty shocking.
01:02   These groups are called, for example: “real exposed bitches” or “headscarves 18+”
01:07   They often have thousands of members. It concerns girls who are being exposed
01:12   with nude photos and videos. Some are also underage.
01:16   You also could see clearly in the picture that it is a 14- or 13-year-old girl.
01:21   Sometimes a message even mentions the girl’s Snapchat handle
01:24   or her Instagram handle, or even someone’s phone number or address.
01:27   And the comments are shocking: the girls are “whores, sluts”
01:30   “Kech” [kechba]: that is Arabic for “whore”, and people ask to call and message the girls.
01:36   The consequences for these girls are huge. For example, Ouahiba.
01:40   She is one of the most well-known victims and her nude photo
01:43   leaked about three years ago, but her name and photos are still
01:47   shared often in these Telegram group chats.
01:50   Well, I got lots of messages saying that my pictures were being shared.
01:53   And that I should take a look. —On Telegram? —Yes.
01:57   Then I joined one of those groups, and from there I joined others.
02:00   I believe there were hundreds of groups. Groups that said
02:05   “Ouahiba for Porn President”… with lots of pictures and made-up stories.
02:10   Pictures of naked girls don’t end up on Telegram just like that.
02:13   Often it’s girls who sent them to their boyfriends, whom they trusted.
02:17   Let’s say you’re a girl.
02:20   I have long hair and. —Yes exactly, you’re a girl.
02:23   And at some point you send me a nude photo. And then
02:26   the relationship ends, and the guy may one day
02:30   browse through his phone and realize: “Hey, I still have a picture of her.
02:34   Let me forward it to a friend.” One friend, that’s how it starts.
02:37   “Wow, you have a photo of that, you’re so bad, I’m going to forward it!
02:42   I forward it to you, but no you can’t forward it!” And so it goes on.
02:45   At some point it ends up with someone who posts it in a group and says “Hey, check it out.
02:48   “I have a picture of that lady; she is known for this and that, this is her Facebook,
02:52   this is her Instagram,” and that’s where it goes completely wrong. It’s not
02:56   just about nude photos. Sometimes the girls are already “exposed” because they dress “too sexy”.
03:00   or because people find them annoying, like this girl who started a Facebook group
03:04   for girls who have been exposed.
03:07   I’ve spoken to a lot of victims who say, “Just because I show a little bit of cleavage,
03:11   I’m already exposed.” She “deserves that”, she’s really seen as a whore.
03:17   So this “exposing” not only happens on Telegram, but also Snapchat, Instagram and Facebook
03:21   host many such groups. Take for example the girl you just saw.
03:24   She stood up for victims and then was threatened in a Facebook live.
03:28   He made a screenshots of my profile photo, and he posted it in those “expose” groups, with
03:36   my name visible, and he also claimed I was a “negro whore”, that I
03:41   jump into bed with everybody. Well, he sent me death threats and threatened to mutilate me, then I
03:48   reported him to the police, but they did nothing.
03:51   Yes, and more victims who filed complaints say this.
03:54   Of course we asked the police
03:57   if they know about these Telegram groups and they say, yes, we’re
04:01   aware, but they don’t really have a clear picture.
04:04   But it’s still important to file complaints with police.
04:07   Threats and blackmail are still offences. And yes, the more complaints
04:10   that are filed, the more the police can do. People on the street
04:13   walk up to my parents and say “Your daughter is online, she’s
04:19   all over the internet. Not just girls, the family, parents, environment is
04:23   affected. Relationships are broken off. I lost a lot of friends. Really, a lot. It’s too bad.
04:31   They didn’t want to see me anymore because… she’d also be seen as a whore.
04:38   Somebody called my boss and asked why do you have
04:45   someone like that working for you? Why don’t you fire her,
04:49   because she ruins the reputation of your business.
04:52   So it really affected me. —Yes, and listen to this mother,
04:55   who left the following voice message for the people who ‘exposed” her daughter on Telegram.
04:59   Please sir, please, remove the videos and photos. Please, this is my daughter. I’m begging you.
05:08   Please, maybe you have sisters. Maybe you’ll have children later, I don’t know.
05:15   But would you please remove them? I’m begging you. I’m begging you.
05:24   Thanks to this clip, quite a few groups took those pictures offline again. But most of the
05:27   cell phone numbers and photos, of course, just stay up. Slut-shaming, nude pictures, that happens
05:32   everywhere of course. But the impact is a lot bigger for people of Moroccan or
05:36   Turkish origin. Religion, for example, plays a very important role.
05:40   You defile the honour, not only your own, but also of
05:44   the people around you. —I know native Dutch boys, but I also
05:49   know Moroccan boys, and I can see that there’s more going on with them,
05:53   because if Kim wanted to send pictures to Tim, then there’d be no problem.
05:58   But if Fatima were to send one to Mo[hammed], well,
06:01   then she’d be all over internet. That’s what I see.
06:05   You represent your family name, and I think with Moroccans, with Muslims, that’s more the case,
06:11   that you’re a representative. —Honor and pride.
06:16   It’s all about pride. —Yes, it has a bit to do with,
06:19   with shame, you know when you bring shame on your family with something like that.
06:23   “Exposing”, of course, goes way beyond just slut-shaming.
06:27   We’re talking about sharing someone’s personal data, with malicious intent.
06:30   Yes, and the big question is of course,
06:34   why would you even do that? If you ask, for example,
06:39   why are you doing this, why are you “exposing” her, and then they say that she
06:44   deserves it, because she dresses like a whore anyway.
06:48   The motivation could be that you might hate the person. As you said, Ouahiba is a beautiful lady,
06:52   it could be that you think to yourself, “Why can’t I get a lady like that”, you know?
06:57   “What is wrong with me, you know what, you all, I’m just going to create.
07:00   a group, then I’ll expose you all!” Because you’re beautiful on the outside, but inside you’re
07:04   just very ugly, and you have a bad personality. And I think to myself, isn’t it taboo if you
07:08   look at it? Then you get an answer like:
07:11   “Hey, I don’t look at it, I just “expose” it.
07:15   You often have guys say, hey, my sister is not allowed to hang out with a boy.
07:19   If I see her I’ll beat the crap out of her.
07:23   Even though you’ve been with 20 ladies yourself. Had all these different ladies, and you did
07:27   things with her, and did things with the other over there. It’s very hypocritical and that’s also
07:31   something you have to check, take a look and ask yourself, “Is this OK what I’m doing.
07:34   shouldn’t I take a different approach?” —And they usually also do it
07:37   to warn other boys. “Look, this is the girl you’re dealing with
07:41   if that girl gets in a relationship with a guy.”
07:44   So they think she should be known for this, and that everyone who
07:48   deals with her should know this. —I think for the people who are on Telegram,
07:52   who share and post this kind of thing, have to take a good look at themselves,
07:55   have to look in the mirror and ask themselves, is this the right
07:59   way to get a message across, or is it just a weird fantasy
08:04   a weird kind of urge for you to drag people down and to share things?
08:08   I think you should then just get a hobby, go play soccer or work with computers, whatever.
08:15   Ideas, school, go help your parents if necessary, do something useful
08:19   instead of this kind of thing, that only ruins people. Let’s say
08:23   you’re watching now and your nudes are floating around on internet, you’ve been exposed, or you
08:26   know someone who is exposed, and you don’t know what to do, then there are three
08:30   important things: One, file a complaint with police. Two, gather evidence,
08:35   take screenshots for example. Yes, and very important: talk about it with someone.
08:40   If you can’t talk to parents or family, then look for someone else you trust. I just think that,
08:45   as a girl, when you’re “exposed” you’ll just have to talk about it, open and honest.
08:49   That’s what worked for me. I talked to friends,
08:55   good friends, acquaintances, my parents. Just people around you that you see every day.
08:59   Even if it’s scary. —Even if it’s scary. Yes, you just have to talk about it.
09:04   Do you know more about exposing? Then mail us, and don’t forget to share this video
09:08   with your friends. And don’t forget to subscribe for more of this
09:12   kind of video. For now, thanks for watching. Bye!
 

16 thoughts on “Exposing and Slut-Shaming: How to Enforce Sharia in the Netherlands

  1. I suppose that these victims could quit their community, and integrate to the broader Dutch society, where nobody would really care about the story.

    In a funny, this type of thing might backfire on those who do it: it could result in further integration!

    I hope.

  2. no, it does not go wrong when the photo gets forwarded a thousand times and then posted. It went wrong when the stupid girl sent out (or even took) a nude photo of herself. What is wrong with these women?

    • They are products of Internet and social media culture which is shallow, orientated to living in the moment and fixed on the visual. They are also naive and do not seem to understand how hypocritical and misogynistic the Muslim culture they come from is.

  3. Guess what sweetie?

    You gotta problem……………….
    But…….it is a problem with YOUR “culture”, you know–the one you DRAGGED IN WITH YOU when you invaded “our” Western part of the world.
    Please–do not bore us with the fact that you are having a problem with THIS one little itty-bitty part of our culture.
    That there “internet cell phone ” part of it that you all seem to love so much it just comes along with you as you cross the desert and Med.

    Well, sweetie–learn to take the good with the bad.
    ‘Course that ‘bad’ part seems to be the ‘BOYS’ ya brung with you–or was it your mommies and daddies and uncles and aunts you brought along as well ??

    That’s just a little thing we call NOT OUR PROBLEM, sweetie.

    You could always go home.
    Or, better still, send THEM home………………just a thought.

  4. This has nothing to do with islam. These type of groups also exist with western men sharing nudes of western women.

    Stupid people with smartphones is not a good match.

  5. Given the often insecure and public nature of social media, and the behaviour of some people (mainly, but not only, men) towards their current or former partners, why would any woman, muslim or not, be so naive? If you want to share nude pics with someone with whom you’re in an intimate relationship, print them. It’s not 100% safe, as they could be scanned, but certainly more so.

    • If you want to share nude pics with someone with whom you’re in an intimate relationship, print them.

      But just because you can do something doesn’t mean it’s a good idea. The faculty of discernment seems to be in an atrophied state.

      • Falafel, yes!

        I have only recently discovered how great it is.
        I now make it several times each week for my family.

        I usually tell people that it is an Israeli favourite, which it is although it appears to have originated in the Arab world.

        I now refuse to have anything to do with Arab culture, as much as is possible.

        My wife of Irish descent loves belly dancing and has been a dancer for several years.

        The arab music she uses to dance is the most annoying, grating abomination to my ears.
        But, marriage forces foreign things upon you.
        That’s life.

        I find the older I get the more I act like Archie Bunker.
        I used to be much more willing to indulge in foreign culture, but not now. I find more comfort in those things which only have pleasant memories or images.

          • Haha.

            You’re right.

            I need to get out of the house more often.

            But with that harsh arab music banging on my head and the jangling of all the little bells on her dress, I can’t help thinking that I’m in the middle of a Turkish bazaar. The last place on earth I want to be.

  6. Girls, girls, girls, it is ALWAYS a bad idea to share or even take a naked picture of yourself even for a husband.
    There’s this little thing called human nature and it’s everywhere.

  7. Is it that hard to tell everyone on the first day of school, during the year, and the last day of school from 6th grade on that if you send someone a nude picture of yourself eventually it will be shared. It isn’t just a bad idea. It is a stupid idea. Assume the person you are sharing it with is a liar. And most importantly it is a crime at least in the US. If you take a naked picture of yourself and send it to someone – it is child pornography. Even if you are a minor you still committed the crime. Kids get busted for this but you don’t hear much about it until someone dies – suicide.

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