15 thoughts on “Viktor Orbán: “Today’s Europe Has a Guilty Conscience When We Talk About the Crimes of Communism””

1. Also he give some punches out toward the almighty West, birthplace the some of deadliest ideologies (islam being the ultimate winner with 280 million dead):
   National Socialism and Communism. Both was hatched by “western intellectuals” and Communism still warmly welcomed in every Leftist Liberal society. Most Soros NGO has radical Leftist/Marxists/Communist leanings. As far as I am concerned the
   Mass Murder Olympics look like the following:
   Bronze: Nazism – 60 million dead (WW2)
   Silver: Communism – 100 million dead
   Gold: Islam – 280 million dead

   What we seeing today that the “Silver” and “Gold” winners are aligning themselves for a new “game” to “set a new record”.

   Also some math can be applied here (just based on numbers):

   2 Nazis = 1 Communist
   4 Nazis = 1 Muslim

   • unpleasant stuff, certainly.

     but WWI, and then everything back to Napoleonic, back to 30 years war and so on – was any of these in any sense better or preferred?

     the matter is – the nationalist, or/and religiuos or/and imperial ambitions were serving as engines and trumpets of war for centuries.
     to cut something out of this for political convenience.. 🙂

     also Mr Orban is so sensitive to the ills of Western intellectualism, but how about other modern issues.

     maybe it escaped his notice that Stalin’s monuments are jumping back to pedestals in Russia, which is supposed to be Hungary’s close ally gegen islamization.. and is a, ehm, financial sponsor of Hungarian nationalist politicum, without “supposed to be”.

     it is worth remembering Russian history handbooks still describe Hungarian uprising as anti-people conspiracy instigated by the evil West.

     also I haven’t found the word “Jobbik” in the text.
     these are the present day Hungarian neo-nazis, the most definite and prominent in Europe.

     also no word “solidarity” was there.

     not mentioning Israel, the country resisting islamic genocidal wars and terroirsm for about 100 years now.

     not mentioning Ukraine, which is presently invaded by the same imperial power Hungary is so happy to be free from, liberated – but wait a minute.. liberated by whom?

     maybe it would be good to mention here the Berlin Wall victims, Polish Solidarity movement, Russian dissidents, and not the least, American perseverance?
     “Hungary became free”.. well mostly not by the effort of Hungarians, sorry Victor.

     Mr. Orban has so many ways to improve and develop his moral and historical judgements.
     …

     • Whoaaa… Talk about [meaningless] liberal apologist rant!
       Let me translate your ideological [epithet] to the rest of the people here:

       “but WWI, and then everything back to Napoleonic, back to 30 years war and so on – was any of these in any sense better or preferred”

       So you stating just because the past (medieval times) were bad, so why try to criticize communism… Nice! What a [epithet]!

       “maybe it escaped his notice that Stalin’s monuments are jumping back to pedestals in Russia, which is supposed to be Hungary’s close ally”

       This is a familiar liberal [meaninglessness] again. Of course in their mind there is no such thing as a country INTERNAL affair.

       “also I haven’t found the word “Jobbik” in the text.
       these are the present day Hungarian neo-nazis”

       If you would follow Hungarian news (which you don’t) you would know that the Orban government made multiple steps against Nazis rooted movements. Jobbik is not one of them. They might have radical elements as members but mostly just a right wing nationalist party, who is a lawfully elected members of present parliament.
       I guess someone did not chew properly the daily propaganda doses suckled up from the Soros media!

       “not mentioning Israel,”

       Hungary has one of the largest Jewish community, soon probably the largest because French Jews are fleeing from the muslim invasion.

       “not mentioning Ukraine”

       Hungary frequently referring to Ukraine because we have Hungarians living there, but again INTERNAL affair!!!
       But if we already here, let’s review the Soros-CIA paid neo-Nazi coup which started the whole mess! No words about that from you? Of course not, you loved that part, right?

       “Hungary is so happy to be free from, liberated – but wait a minute.. liberated by whom?”

       Oh God, you think Hungary was liberated by the west from Communism???
       You must stop learning history from Saturday cartoons!
       West actually did nothing, with the exception of Reagan’s USA which tired out the Soviet union. It was Hungary who opened the border and let East-Germans to leave to west and provided the first step for German unification.
       Hungary was frequently left alone by the West, the last time in 1956!

       • “West actually did nothing”
         🙂

         If West “did nothing”, there wouldn’t be West today.
         and your INTERNAL AFFAIRS would be well, soviet slavery and mass graves, that type of internal affairs.

         also could you please discuss “Soros-CIA paid neo-Nazi coup” in Ukraine with your FSB controller.
         albeit, even Russian propaganda now stopped using these mediocre scarecrows – [insults redacted]
         goodbye.
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     • Perhaps his moral and historical judgements do not reflect the horrors of WWI, back to Napoleonic, back to 30 years war and so on (as you say) simply because he and almost everyone else alive did not experience them? Communism was the horror that many of the Hungarian people alive today personally experienced. It’s normal to be more preoccupied with what you or your parents have experienced versus ancestors that you never knew.

   • OK, What do 4 Muslims = ?
     4M = x^y ?

2. And he is 100% right! The collective West, as it now stands today, is immediately dismissive of the danger that is Communism – one only need to appreciate how Communist China is now being promoted as the ‘light bearer’ for the New World Order to realize that.

   Too, the Daily Mail often has articles concerning Nazi Germany, but never have I seen any articles reflecting on Soviet Russia or Communist China and the many, many crimes against Humanity that can be attributed to those systems of ‘government’.

   Those who still steer the West are worse than despicable.

   • Amen.

   • China Inc. the Drucker model for a corporate world in which Winston Smith is a lackey who is allowed to survive only so far as he is useful.
     No thanks, that will make the feudal slavery of the Middle Ages a Sunday School Picnic by comparison. Oh, and BTW, we will all be chipped or tattooed as some many interment camp prisoners. Cute.
     One final thing, both Mao and Ho said that it would be better that 100 are slaughtered than one counter-revolutionary be allowed to live. In their system, death would be preferable.

3. Three cousins, two young men, one young woman, teenagers, were “disappeared” in the aftermath of the 1956 Revolt. My great grandmother died in the hardships of that winter.

4. Communism like Islam is almost Haute Chic in the West. Look at the branded t-shirts and the Hijab days.
   – It is relevant that few know the history of either. All they know is that the West is guilty of unspeakable crimes.

   • We must start calling out the western intellectuals on their BS. Those people brought the two terrible plagues on humankind (Nazism and Communism) and now they are in full force trying to bring in the original prototype monster ideology: islam!

5. In Jesus’ Name, Amen!

6. Was Diana West’s “American Betrayal” translated into Hungarian? Sounds like Orban is familiar with her work. Yeah Diana! Yeah Orban!
   Perhaps more Western leaders will begin to discuss & address the absence of holding Communism accountable. Long time coming.

7. Want to hear something crazy? I was talking to someone from Kyrgyzstan a while back and she told me about how the former Soviet states in Central Asia tend to have a generally positive view of the USSR because the situation in their countries before then was so incredibly awful, that even the USSR was a vast improvement in infrastructure, health care, education, and quality of life. And since the collapse of the Soviet Union, the conditions there have degenerated, so there’s a lot of nostalgia for the old Soviet days. Personally, I don’t think it’s coincidental that these countries are also majority Muslim.

   Jeez, poor Central Asia. Can you imagine?

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