41 thoughts on ““A Racially Aggravated Crime Under Section 4 of the Public Order Act””

1. Well I hope the person, apparently a woman, who did her soviet civic duty by complaining to police about Paul Weston’s ‘offensive’ oration is informed, that by her action, Mr Weston could be locked away for two years due to her ‘sensitivity’ being ruffled!

   I hope that makes her sleep better at night knowing that the real heroes in Britain are being locked away while the enemy continues its advance.

   Five hours in a cell for the original and trivial offence of Contravene Dispersal Notice – which in effect is a Move on Order for which most police departments in other nations issue fines and do not arrest for, unless violence erupts from the person of interest or the offence continues after the fine has been issued – is a little hard to fathom – unless the arresting officer has been ‘assisted’ in upgrading the offence because the ‘offender’ is a person of obvious distinction and the chairman of a political party opposed to the current establishment’s agenda.

   The court case, if the matter proceeds, should prove interesting.

   Also, if Mr Weston spent a total of five hours in captivity, isn’t there a legal requirement in Britain that when a person is arrested and no charge has been laid within a four hour period, then arresting police need to apply to a magistrate to have extra time in detaining their person of interest?

2. Sorry Mr Weston, you would not be able to publicly quote Winston Churchill on Islam in Australia or Canada due to those countries’ “racial vilification” laws: which are drawn so extremely widely that only those drafting the legislation would have been aware of how widely the net was being cast. The public in being informed of the legislation was only told it was aimed at “deterring racial vilification”; which the average reasonable person had no great objection to.

   Similarly nobody in the UK, Australia or Canada would be able to publicly quote US General General George S Patton in his 1942 letter to his wife about why Morocco was so economically retarded and would always stay that way:
   “Any country that treats its women and animals the way these people do …”

   • Sorry to say you’re probably right there. But at least in Australia and NZ there are some immigration limits. Not enough, and without enough emphasis on integration and respecting local laws (incl. gender equality), but at least some immigration laws.

3. Dear Paul,

   Why be a martyr for a British People that no longer care about freedom? People get the government they deserve- ad they have it in bucketloads.

   I respect your stand Sir and you are a courageous soul….indeed.

   Have you considered though this maybe exactly what the oiks in the “Establishment” want. They see a public figure arrested for quoting Churchill and they get the message “If it happens to him, then it will happen to people like us!”

   I loathe these creeps Paul as much as you do. Like you I am quite prepared to face the worst they can throw at me but one feels that maybe other methods maybe needed before these creatures and their Stasi muppets “get the message”. In short the Metropolitan “Middle-England” feely-touchy dopes ned to feel what it is like to live in a sharia/Marxist hell. so their stupid pig ignorant generation knows what true freedom and liberty means- as our fathers once knew as we do…

   Timing Sir! I am bloody angry too Paul but we need to keep cool heads and strike the evil where it hurts in our time not theirs.

   And I salute you!

4. Dear Paul,

   Why be a martyr for a British People that no longer care about freedom? People get the government they deserve- and they have it in bucketloads.

   I respect your stand Sir and you are a courageous soul….indeed.

   Have you considered though this maybe exactly what the oiks in the “Establishment” want? They see a public figure arrested for quoting Churchill and they get the message “If it happens to him, then it will happen to people like us!”

   I loathe these creeps Paul as much as you do. Like you I am quite prepared to face the worst they can throw at me but one feels that maybe other methods maybe needed, before these creatures and their Stasi muppets “get the message”. In short the Metropolitan “Middle-England” feely-touchy dopes need to feel what it is like to live in a sharia/Marxist hell, so their stupid pig ignorant generation knows what true freedom and liberty means- as our fathers once knew as we do…

   Timing Sir! I am bloody angry too Paul but we need to keep cool heads and strike the evil where it hurts in our time not theirs.

   Anyway I salute you!

   • As do I. I wonder if Mr Weston intended this result to get his “day in court”?

   • “Why be a martyr for a British People that no longer care about freedom?”

     Painful. A most trenchant question in every single Western country. I don’t think a rational answer is available within the modern framework. One must deploy and FEEL concepts such as “honor.” And one must believe in God and feel the mystic chords of memory.

     And how to overcome the gagging revulsion, the disgust for the programmed drones who are one’s fellow citizens, pedestrians on the street, colleagues at work, daughters and cousins?

     Here is an apposite quote from another 20th century giant who seems now like from the 18th century, though he walked among us:

     “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?… The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
     Alexander Solzhenitsyn, “Gulag Archipelago”

     BTW, how many people under 50, not only in the sliding-to-Gommorah UK and US but in any Western country, even know who Solzhenitsyn was? And how many know what “honor” means, let alone have it in their bones?

     • Quote:
       One must deploy and FEEL concepts such as “honor.” And one must believe in God and feel the mystic chords of memory.
       end

       This.
       And how hard it is for me to perceive any such thread in present-day European culture.
       It was certainly not present in the early 20th century, when the issue for nationalists was conquest and oppression, not self-preservation.
       Do not let the self-deceptions of the past reign in the present day.

5. I sent an email to Hampshire constabulary last night asking what Paul had been charged with and when he would be brought to trial. They wrote straight bck asking for his date of birth. From what appears above, I think things have been overtaken by events.
   However, if Paul does let me have his DoB, my wife and I will send him a card.

   • Numb to the bones.
     The Hampshire Constabulary is no different from the Order Police in Hamburg that Mr. Browning describes in Ordinary Men.
     All the loyalty of dogs . . . none of the love.

6. Are those Soviet tactics, or are they Soviet tactics?

7. The establishment really is terrified in this (ie Britain) country isn’t it? Do they know something we don’t know?

   • They know that, if Russia decides to defend itself by striking at America and ‘activates’ its cells across Europe (the main Nationalist partys) then a long walk and a rope (at best) is what awaits them for their treachery-hence their cowardly fear.

8. 1. Demonstrate that there was no intent to cause harassment, alarm or distress.

   You’ll notice the difference between Section 4 & Section 5 – if they cannot prove that the intent to do one of those three specific things was present in someone’s mind prior to their speaking, then a Section 4 charge cannot stand.

   You’ll also note that whereas Section 5 only requires that someone be present who is likely to feel harassed, alarmed or distressed, Section 4 requires that someone was in fact caused “harassment, alarm or distress.” So the authorities have to produce someone who experienced one of those transient emotions after hearing Winston Churchill’s words. If they can’t then a Section 4 charge cannot stand.

   2. It is a recognised defence against a Section 4 charge to show that your conduct was “reasonable.”

   It is reasonable to rely on the published opinion of “The Greatest Briton Who Ever Lived” when a member of the British public is trying to form an opinion of something.

   (If you were interested in how World War II began, then reading The Gathering Storm would be reasonable behaviour, for example.)

   Note that the book in question – The River War – was first published in 1899 and was released in an abridged version in 1902. So the opinion of Sir Winston Churchill has been a matter of public record for one hundred and fifteen years!

   And now suddenly it’s illegal?

   3. Racially aggravated? Which race is Islam again?

   • You are correct in your assessment. However, it is not Churchill’s memoirs that are illegal though, it is the Act that allows someone to complain that the recitation of his memoirs, and likewise, the recitation of Qu’ranic verses in public under such an Act which allows the forever aggrieved to be offended, that is illegal.

   • He was so advanced!! “‘The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property – either as a child, a wife, or a concubine – must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.”

     Written in 1899. Awesome man.

9. Let’s hope he gets a lawyer as good as Tim Burton’s, and this backfires in the face of the authorities.

10. A case with no merit.
    Any reasoning judge will laugh out loud, dismiss it, and then deport the woman to a Socialist Paradise like North Korea.

11. As long as the media and government agencies accept the meme that remarks about Islam constitute “racial vilification,” there can be no freedom of speech. Islam is not a race but a political/religious ideology. Making racial remarks is indeed offensive because people cannot change their race. They’re born with it. Furthermore, with a few physiological exceptions, race is not a factor in socio-economic success or failure. (Pygmies will never become basketball stars.) However, Islam is an ideology which people can embrace or abandon at will. People have a choice, and millions leave Islam every year, despite the ideology’s sanction of “death for apostasy.” Adherence to an ideology, by the way, does have an impact on ones socio-economic success in life. It is central to the ideological make-up of Islam that “things in themselves or by their own nature have [no] causal influence independent of the will of Allah.” (Reliance of the Traveler, Section o8.7(20)) The Quran states, “Allah has power over all things. . . .Do they not see the birds that wing their flight in heaven’s vault? None but Allah sustains them.” (Surah 16:78-78) That fatalistic, predestined view of life is the cause of the noticeable lack of curiosity, initiative, and perseverance in Muslims world-wide. That “inshallah” mindset can change instantly by abandoning Islam.

    • Well said. We must keep emphasising this. I hate racism. Including islam, with its vile anti-semitist racism!

      • I have o idea what racism is. One definition of racism is a man who is winning an argument against a liberal. Finally, if allah has power over all things, then he is making a right bloody mess of it.

        • That should have said I have no idea what racist means. A touch of Howard Hughes nails and a small keyboard, I’m afraid

12. This action should be replicated by as many English citizens as possible.

13. Speaking of non-PC quotes about Islam, I tried to obtain a quote from Aldous Huxley from The Iconoclast, but it is offline line. It’s parent blog, NewEnglishReview.org also appears to be offline.

    It was a passage regarding the Muslim attitude about fate or the will of Allah.

    • Oops. Excuse various grammatical errors–haste makes waste as they say.

14. The police love to do this sort of work. It is easy money – just obey orders.

    Meanwhile a poor little old lady on her way back home from the post office is being smashed over the head by some [vile creature held in deepest contempt] for her pension money.

    As she lies hurt, injured and bleeding on the pavement it is not for our police to come to her rescue. They have no time to inspect the street video cameras. The [vile creature held in deepest contempt] is free to strike again and again with impunity. If the old lady ever recovers her whole life is shattered and she never dares to go out again.

    This happened in my town with no one ever brought to justice. And all because these college boy police are too wet to even bother to catch the offender. They have bigger fish to fry. Only obeying orders…

    • They’re so onto their duties: they were at Paul Weston within 3 minutes, apparently. Little old ladies be damned!

      • Don’t worry mate their day in the sun is rapidly drawing to a close and all the begging and pleading in the world won’t save the traitours from the unstoppable wrath of the English people once we have awoken….

    • Funny you should say that. The same happened to me, I even had a friend who was a police officer to help me, off duty but the on duty ones didn’t care.

15. “We are essentially at war in this country, but of course I’m not in my official capacity allowed to say anything about that.”

    Who are “we” at war with?

    What would make this Policeman believe that the Country is “essentially at war”?

    Who is the official enemy in this Policeman’s undeclared war is it the indigenous population?

    • In the past, heads did roll.
      Careful what you wish for, loyal, loveless dog.

      [Note from the the Baron: I am assuming that the commenter is using “dog” to refer to the policeman, and not to his fellow commenter. If the opposite were the case, the comment would not have been approved.]

      • You’re right. And you have used the context of my other comment.
        Thank you.

16. Daily Mail helps with the full quote (about as courageous these days as printing the Mohammed cartoons), but doesn’t allow comments. Is that for legal reasons or out of real fear of retribution? Or fear of being flooded with comments?

    • Why isn’t the editor of the daily mail being run in as we speak?

17. Once again, what race is Islam???

18. The Daily Mail should be commended for publishing this outrageous incident. Let us now hope that if one media outlet can publish what has happened to Mr Weston, then so can others. Maybe a good public airing will present those who decided to bully Mr Weston with a well deserved can of worms! I have also noted with previous ‘stories’ concerning Islam or its followers, that comments when open, can climb into the many hundreds, even thousands!

    There is a well spring of anti-Islamic sentiment in Britain today just waiting to be tapped, the media know of it, the politicians know of it, the police know of it and the judiciary know of it! The very institutions that are in place to protect the Briton from criminality and the colonizing of their own nation state are now being used to keep the lid on the boiling pot of the rising intolerance for the Islamization of their nation that is deemed by the establishment they must be tolerant of!

    It’s just a matter of time before that lid blows off that boiling pot!

    • If the national press can publish Churchill’s words, in full, and no one experiences one of the three transient emotions outlined in Section 4 of the Public Order Act, and no one phones the police to go and arrest the editor of the Daily Mail, and the editor of the Daily Mail is not in fact arrested and charged with a racially aggravated offence under Section 4 of the Public Order Act …

      then …

      that is all good for Paul Weston should this case ever actually go to court.

      endif.

    • Shall the indigenes be kept in “protective custody,” then?
      Every expression of the totalitarian impulse is at work in Britain.
      The next time some person with an English accent tells me that Britain is a democracy, I will laugh out loud.

19. Jolie Rouge – I would like to know the answer to that question too “we are at war”.
    Who is “we” and who are we at war with.

20. All I will say is that when the civil war that these traitours have thrust upon my people by their cowardly and vile actions finally breaks out in Britain, and Nationalists regain control of areas of the country and RE establish the Law, these filthy pigs (actually ALL who currently ‘serve’) will be [intemperate suggestions redacted] as a spectacle and example to the rest. Such unbelievable treason deserves no less. (Note how SEVEN of the animals turned up to ‘investigate’ Paul’s free speech, this at a time when many in Britain live daily in fear as the police ‘cannot’ help them, I can’t imagine how low you would have to be to put on the uniform and walk around in it for all your fellow English men and women to see what a cowardly traitour you are.

21. Could the police officer have meant “Our country is in a war”, meaning Afghanistan etc.? That Britisch Soldiers are in danger being in a muslim country, if such things are spoken openly back home?
    It still appears to me definitely too risky to be said by an officer that an “inland” war is taking place, since it is not the best he can do for his career…

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