The following article from Politically Incorrect describes the latest persecutions launched by the German Grinch of Dhimmitude during this joyous Christmas Winter Festival season. It was translated by Carpe Diem and published at Vlad Tepes yesterday. Visit the linked articles to see the photos.
When audacity meets stupidity, this is the result
From P.I. News:
When audacity meets stupidity, this is the result: In Herne/Germany a DHL courier has recently delivered parcels dressed in costume that allegedly represented Saint Nicholas and greeted his customers with the familiar “ho, ho, ho”. Many of his customers appreciate this nice gesture especially in the weeks before Christmas, something he had done in his district for years. Now, a “customer of a different faith” (guess which one) has complained because his religious feelings had been offended. DHL and police have now asked the courier to leave off the garment.
Many citizens are indignant. The founders of our Constitution certainly had different thoughts referring to religious freedom. But it gets even better: The postman didn’t even dress as Saint Nicholas but as Santa, Santa, who has nothing to do with Saint Nicholas or religion at all, since he I simply the advertising figure of a well-known soft drink brand…
One obviously cannot expect citizens of a specific religion, appeasing DHL board and docile police to understand such “subtleties”.
Reads: Official Partner of Santa
And it still gets better: Last year DHL couriers had a badge on their jackets reading “Official Partner of Santa”. So, a marketing gag is regarded as discrimination within a year. Amazing how fast hostile take-over of our country proceeds.
This is actually a meme! It has been dragged up regularly – every second or so Christmas seasons…The “DHL” bit has been varied – sometimes postmen, sometimes other courier companies.
Only those who WANT it to be true will get all puffed up about it – especially knowing that like most of the other “Political Correctness Is Killing Christmas” stories (especially as filtered by Fox!) are similarly untraceable and obviously apocryphal.
Perhaps its better to step back and ask what kind of tolerance we may have for other culture’s festivals and beliefs – what sort of attitude we would extend, and how clear our conscience is on looking down on our fellow citizens when they practice different customs to our own. Now THAT is a Christian project for Christmas time!
You can do that. Nice take-home project. I actually am not curious to know about the festivities of islam. Some of them are pretty bloody.
Guess you never heard how muslims treat other cultures ? Never mind.
Suffice to say, we always treat other cultures with respect, especially when they come here for welfare and health care education etc their own cultures cannot provide.
People such as yourself are believers in ” no culture is superior to another “? unless i am mistaken.
We will have to agree to disagree then. I prefer MY culture, especially cosy Christmas , may i say that ?
To well, honour killings, sex -slavery, temporary marriages, polygamy, wife-beating ,FGM , beheading of infidels and cattle. But that is me. I admit it, I am a little “old-fashioned “maybe.
Other cultures amongst us who appreciate us all , is mutual such as Chinese , Sikh, indian etc , seem to integrate very well in fact and manage to express their cultures in a peaceful civilised manner, because they are peaceful , tolerant and civilised , and espouse no religious commands to kill ” infidels”. Actually we do not have a problem with their cultures, being benign , ” tolerate” them well and they do not force their culture onto us and we also enjoy their often colourful customs.
They even obey our laws !!
So your point is ?
Tell a Muslim that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, if you really believe it.
Then you can tell me about who is tolerant and who is not.
Yeah – or tell him that Christianity is another ancient belief system that relies on a supernatural personage casting spells, pulling off miracles and raising the dead – and he will probably just laugh.
Unless he’s a Christian Muslim (of which there are millions in the world!) and he will probably just agree with you!
Obviously Christianity is the exact same religion as Islam – just re-badged. Different prophets but they share so many cultural and theological facets its quite amazing.
Jesus is of course first and foremost – at least from an authenticated point of view – an Islamic prophet.
Wow! Where to begin?
First, there are NO Christian Muslims because a person can ONLY be one or the other per the core tenets of BOTH Christianity and Islam. There may be Christian Arabs or Christian Syrians or Christian Egyptians, but there are NO Christian Muslims.
That said, it does seem as though various groups are undertaking an active effort to create Chrislam as a mash-up of the two religions. The wikipedia article below discusses a couple of small sects of Chrislam in Nigeria, but the real story is all of the many Christian ‘inter-faith’ efforts with Islam that are wholly one-sided with Islam being subtly proselytized to naive Christians without the reciprocal occurring.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrislam
In Christianity, Jesus is the Son of God – a loving caring God – one aspect of the triune God with the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Jesus is NOT a prophet. Jesus is God incarnate in human form. Jesus called himself the Son of Man while his followers noted his divinity and called him the Son of God.
http://www.bethinking.org/bible-jesus/introductory/jesus-the-son-of-man.htm
In Islam, Mohammed self-appointed himself as the final prophet of a monotheistic God – an angry vengeful God. Jesus is viewed as merely a man who is a former prophet who is superseded by Mohammed and his evil teachings.
Islam came after Christianity which came after Judaism, so it is Islam that is re-badged Christianity and Judaism.
If the Son of God Jesus had taught the same ideas as the Islamic founder Mohammed, then there would have been NO need for Mohammed. It is because Mohammed CHANGED the ideas of Christians and Jews that Islam formed as a unique religion.
“Jesus is of course first and foremost – at least from an authenticated point of view – an Islamic prophet.”
Of course, this is the money line that indicates that YOU are Muslim. The tip-off was the idea that Islam pre-dated Christianity since Muslims believe that myth, but the idea that Jesus is an authenticated Islamic prophet is textbook Islam.
Jesus was, is, and always will be the Son of God.
Unfortunately Egghead your theology needs a refresher course, as does your knowledge of world history.
Carpath’s explanation is essentially and technically correct and no amount of huffing and spouting wikepedia will disprove it.
Jesus was a minor prophet whose mercurial rise to prominence has exaggerated the originality and teleological significance of his purported words.
Millions of Christians in Africa, Middle East and across Asia DO happily mix Christian and Islamic thought and belief, largely harming no one and easily balancing the two spiritually. The practical issues you conflate are a western extravagance, and one derived from your own state of apparent besiegement.
Most Muslims in fact live by morals and practices that are very close to many Christian ones, so please desist from throwing in beheadings, bombings and the like as some sort of norm. They are a Muslim equivalent to the relevance of Sandy Hook or Timothy McVeigh to the Christian ethos.
And no, to answer a recurring trope amongst you Allah-a’fearin’ folks round here, I am not a Muslim. Merely a humble and ordinary Coptic.
Hi ‘supposed’ Coptic,
You and I both know that Islam has bloody borders with any peoples unlucky enough to share borders with Muslims….
Muslim morals and practices are the polar opposite of Western Christian morals and practices which is WHY Muslims try to violently enforce Sharia Law against other people of other religions – and no religions – who have slave status – at best – under Muslim supremacist Sharia Law.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
Egghead,
speaking of “supposed” Christians (or Coptics)…or Muslims…or heretics.
Im not sure you can claim “Muslim morals and practices are the polar opposite of Western Christian morals and practices” when we all know the history of the Catholic Church in Western Europe and the colonial sphere.
If indeed the chronology of Opus Novum de emendatione temporum (1583) and Thesaurum temporum (1606) are correct, and they have been largely verified by later events, the New Testament pre-dates the Old Testament, and Jesus is indeed a follower of Islam, both chronologically as well as theologically.
Astronomic and astrological evidence suggests the pre-history we take for granted, and which supports a lineal Judaic chronology, is highly dubious, and cyclical recurrences of events and cultures suggest history as we know it has largely been manufactured by Papist historians in the 14-16th centuries. It is unlikely whole civilisations predate far more modern events (unless manufactured/contrived by Renaissance scholars).
The appearance of Islam on the Arabian peninsular may well preface the emergence of civilisation as its usually conceived. Jesus is almost certainly a far later Emperor or colonial governor turned “prophet”.
And for the record, as if its any of your business, I am a deeply religious Christian, studying Ancient Christianity.
[your assertions are irrelevant and inconsequential].
Cite your sources….
Egghead,
I think he’s got you. Sources were already quoted – no that I have time nor effort to check.
I think if you can’t disprove him we may as well take for read that the Cathpath assertions stand.
(I can’t abide laziness in others!)
I rather doubt that YOU are even a Christian!
If you listened to Christian radio, you would know that there are many real stories with real people and places where Christians and Christian symbols are being persecuted in the West – especially at Christmas because Christmas celebrates the birth of Christ – which re-focuses attention on Christ.
You are correct that the idea of Political Correctness is NOT killing Christmas; rather, it is the people of Political Correctness who are trying to kill Christmas – and those people of Political Correctness are mainly comprised of atheists, Jews, and Muslims who are making a big push to ‘fundamentally transform’ specific references to Christ into vague references to holidays and winter.
Your hypocritical conclusion above is that Westerners should explore and embrace any foreign people and customs that arrive at the doors of OUR Christian countries, but that Westerners CANNOT expect – let alone require – the same treatment in either our own countries or their foreign countries.
Question: If foreigners are equal to Westerners, then why do you hold them to a difference standard than us? Why not hold us all to the same standard?
Perhaps the reality is that you FEEL better about yourself by your (mis)judging that foreigners and Christians are incapable of being tolerant – and you are just so much better than both groups that you should preach your self-serving sermon of your being better than us….
To be precise, it’s Catholics and Masons who are trying to kill Christmas. It’s a centuries old scheme, and probably the source of much of these so called memes.
Christians need to be aware who is really tearing down Christmas trees and stopping carols…mainly papists whose strict clericalism is an affront to Christians everywhere.
Some may even work with Islamists, but hide the connection.
Show us the sources for your FALSE assertions!
It is the avowed atheists, Jews (often in their capacities as civil rights lawyers and judges), and Muslims in the West who actively use their corporate power and lawfare to legally contest every Christian symbol every where they can – so much so that Christian radio commentators already do one story per week – and say that they could do one story per day – about people challenging Christian symbols and norms in the West.
In fact, it was the Obama-bots who threatened to ARREST Catholic priests who volunteered to say mass in military churches during the recent government shut-down despite the fact that about 25% of the U.S. military is Catholic….
http://chersonandmolschky.com/2013/12/10/merry-christmas-religion-peace/
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/priests-risk-arrest-offering-sacraments-catholic-troops-during
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/12/12/espn-rejects-catholic-hospital-ad-said-jesus-god-are-problematic/
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/12/12/officials-refuse-to-back-down-in-battle-with-atheists-over-florida-citys-nativity-scene/
http://www.mlive.com/wayland/index.ssf/2013/12/dorr_nativity_display_brings_c.html
http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/41416-angry-atheists-continue-relentless-attack-on-the-ground-zero-cross
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/12/13/Palin-Even-Congress-Can-t-Stop-Angry-Atheists-from-Removing-Crosses-from-Veterans-Memorials
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/6209892/Nurse-faces-the-sack-for-refusing-to-take-off-her-cross.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2463412/Muslim-fathers-anger-daughters-confiscated-Islamic-necklace.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2463412/Muslim-fathers-anger-daughters-confiscated-Islamic-necklace.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2440816/The-devoted-teacher-quit-Muslim-school-told-THIS-outfit-indecent.html
http://www.wnd.com/2004/12/27948/
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
Etc. Etc. Etc.
Egghead,
perhaps you should calm your rhetoric (and stop stockpiling links to what look like apocryphal articles!)…
From what I can see it is indeed TRUE that masons are subverting Christmas and easter as celebrations within Christianity – indeed here in Denmark they even have parties with catholic congregations where they celebrate medieval festivals in lieu of Christmas!
Atheists seem to be the least of our problems – they seem to have embraced Christianity’s pagan roots and have their own “Christ-free” rituals that have received largely positive responses from our churches.
On the Islamic front – many of the Islamic communities – at least in our large cities – have crosses outside their mosques at Christmas and even give presents to each other and to the poor.
Maybe you need to look beyond the obvious towards a broader view of the issue.
Merry Christmas
The devil is very clever and suits his message to his audience.
Denmark is a small country with a National Church that is state-supported by a church tax. While 79% of Danes are members of the National Church, only 18% believe Jesus is the Saviour of the world and only 5% attend church regularly.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Denmark
The attack on Christianity in Denmark has taken a different form than the attacks on Christianity in the United States and various other countries like Britain.
Regarding Masonry (Freemasonry), the Catholic Encyclopedia states:
“The ultimate purpose of Freemasonry is ‘the overthrow of the whole religious, political, and social order based on Christian institutions and the establishment of a new state of things according to their own ideas and based in its principles and laws on pure Naturalism.’
“In view of these several reasons Catholics since 1738 are, under penalty of excommunication, incurred ipso facto, and reserved to the pope, strictly forbidden to enter or promote in any way Masonic societies.”
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09771a.htm
As far as the articles about the attacks on American and British Christianity being apocryphal: Well, you can see for yourself that the articles exist – and are articles from a wide variety of sources in the United States and Britain – about a wide variety of REAL legal and social challenges to Christians and Christian symbols and norms.
American and British Christians are spending an awful lot of time, money, and effort fighting these legal cases….
The persecution of Christians and Christian symbols and norms is REAL and is actively facilitated by people who deny the persecution.
It appears that those who would deny CHRIST would also deny the persecution of Christians….
Egghead
I rather doubt YOU are a Christian too. You seem to imagine that the Christian Churches ALL embrace anti Islam sentiments because you do, but you don’t see the cancer that is eating the Christian religion from the inside – a total lack of relevance and a complete lack of cultural currency due to continual erosion of their spiritual base.
Christianity has embraced a Judaist theology derived from a Crusader mentality that was reborn in the 19th century, largely Masonic in practice but with all the trappings of a New Age hegemony.
Islam or even Hinduism have retained their spiritual base and for better or worse will probably win the battle for the minds in the next century.
Only a true Christian rebirth, perhaps with a new prophet, will future proof it.
So yes, I AM a Christian but you, poor Egghead, just think you are.
“You seem to imagine that the Christian Churches ALL embrace anti Islam sentiments because you do….”
On the contrary:
I imagine that the Western Christian churches embrace naive pro-Islam statements like those recently made by the Pope.
I also imagine that the Middle Eastern Christian churches fully understand and experience the ever-grim reality denied when Western Christian churches pretend the ‘goodness’ of their Islamic countrymen who spawn the ‘American’ and ‘European’ Muslims imported into places like Syria to completely genocide the local Christians with violent rape, torture, and murder. Even dead Christian bodies are unsafe from Muslim cannibalism….
Again, no real attempt to prove that he, Egghead, is indeed a Christian and not some Muslim infiltrator, even tho he demands it of others.
Either prove it or stop accusing other of heresy…
This is QUITE CORRECT – political correctness is tryiong to subvert the original ethos of a Christian Christmas. In my city, we now have Santas in shopping malls played by middle eastern mohommadans, we have Koranic verses sung as hymns in churches and at Christmas Carols and evenRudolf The Red Nosed Reindeer imagery replaced by what looks like a flying camel.
The last days of tolerance are about us!
Same here. We had schools shut because they wouldnt take down Christmas Trees and local councils directing that schoolkids HAD to tour Mosques to “Balance” Christmas!
Also, only halal food was allowed for the Christmas Feast and they sent council rangers into a library to stop them singing carols! 3 people arrested!
Some of our churches even had church services stopped over Christmas and one priest was ordered by the Mayor to give a sermon from the local Mosque even though none of the Muslims would turn up because they didnt want a Christian preaching to them!
Where will it end?
Hi Do you have press references to this incidents. I’m compiling some for my blog. Thanks
http://theutteredword.blogspot.fr/
“This is actually a meme! It has been dragged up regularly […] Only those who WANT it to be true will get all puffed up about it”
Just like the muslim grooming gangs is a meme. Just like the muslims protesting against Gay Pride is a meme. Just like the idea that muslims from the west went off to fight as Jihadis in Afghanistan, Mali, Libya, Syria, Iraq, is a meme. Just like the Sharia Patrols was a meme. Just like the Gay Free Zone meme. Just like the assassinations (real and failed) were memes. Just like the segregated university meetings are memes. None of these things ever happened either, I suppose.
Only those non-muslims who have no principles won’t get puffed up about these things.
Yes Joe, most of them are memes too, or else the straw man fantasies of western reactionaries!
And isn’t it good you’ve started taking the defense of our Gay brothers and sisters. That’s always populate with the Christian Suprematists round these parts…
Proved!
Great way to deal with Christmas season political correctness: http://www.aei-ideas.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/xmas.jpg
FAKE photo. The two sets of print are different typefaces and sizes. Obvious a photoshop jobbie tailored to this tiresome and largely memetic subject. Grow up and look for real issues to get all hot and bothered about!
I’ll add to my list and update my blog on this very issue. http://theutteredword.blogspot.fr/2013/12/the-uttered-word-dumb.html
If anyone comes across other examples, please let me know. thanks
Elena