A pub called “The Mulberry Tree” closed down last year in the English city of Ipswich. It’s understandable that the owners felt the need to close it — as the “Britons who have lived here for a long time” fled the area in an attempt to escape the relentless cultural enrichment, the halal community that now dominates that area of the city had no use for an establishment that serves alcohol.
Now a Muslim organization has acquired the former pub and wants to convert it into a mosque. Yet the group hid its intention behind a planning application to the borough council proposing a “community centre” — nothing about a mosque.
But now the Muslims of Ipswich have been caught out in their lies — check out the following excerpts from promotional videos (both in English and in subtitled Arabic) in which they cheerfully announce their plans for the new mosque:
For a taste of the politically correct view of the Mulberry Tree controversy, here are some excerpts from a full-dhimmi op-ed in the The Ipswich Star:
Is Social Media Really Good for Communities — or Does it Fan the Flames of Hatred?
by Paul Geater
[…]
This week there has been controversy over the proposal to turn the Mulberry Tree pub near Major’s Corner into a community centre.
The Nawracy Cultural Centre, which is based at an address in London, has put in a planning application for a change of use to Ipswich council — saying it wants to convert it into a community centre.
The application does not mention using it as a mosque. A place of worship requires a different planning permission to a community centre. But a video has appeared on YouTube describing the proposal as the “Ipswich Mosque” and that has got some people very upset.
It’s fair to say those behind The Nawracy Cultural Centre haven’t done themselves any favours. By making an application for a community centre and then issuing a video saying they want to build a mosque they have given their opponents an excuse to claim they are not being entirely straight.
Also they have not engaged with local people — they have not responded to our requests to speak to them and I understand council officials have also had difficulty in making contact.
That isn’t helpful — although maybe I can understand some of their reluctance to engage given the really unpleasant racist and Islamophobic comments that have been posted about the application on social media.
Some sites seem to be fanning the flames of sectarian hatred by claiming that every Muslim is an Islamic extremist and potential terrorist.
That is a travesty of a religion based on hospitality and care for fellow human beings — a religion based on the same God as Christianity and Judaism.
Some extremists who claim to be Muslims seek justification for their beliefs in religious texts. But there are also fairly extreme texts in the Christian Bible, particularly the Old Testament, that have been used by some fundamentalists to justify some barbaric behaviour.
To try to suggest that a new mosque in Ipswich will be nest of terrorists trying to convert the town to an alien religion is like suggesting that churches are all full of Christian fundamentalists hearing nothing but tales of fire and brimstone. That is daft.
Hat tip: Vlad Tepes.
“Yet the group hid its intention behind a planning application to the borough council proposing a “community centre” — nothing about a mosque.”
Not quite true. Muslims do not make the distinction between church and community centre the way we in the west do.
To a muslim a community centre and a mosque are one and the same.
There can be no community centre without a mosque and vice versa.
Technically they were not hiding their intentions.
The Councel of Ipswich seemed to have missed this little detail.
Muslims are very cunning for such a low IQ group. I do not believe for one moment that they innocently failed to mention the word mosque.
The Local Council, however, is clearly either very stupid or complicit.
Oh, c’mon Copywriter !
“Technically they were not hiding their intentions.” Really? They weren’t submitting their application to a town council in Pakistan!
You’re right – Muslims don’t make a distinction between ‘church’ and ‘community centre’ the way we do, but they know – or should – that we DO make such a distinction … which is why Ipswich council requires a different application for churches vs. comm. centres. It’s not as if they were unaware of the opposition in other English towns.
Personally, I think all mosques should be regarded as FOBs – or Forward Operating Bases – in the military sense. And correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe that with the ‘planting’ of a mosque Islam sees an element of staking a claim to territorial sovereignty for the ummah, and thus for Dar Al-Islam.
That territory belongs to Islam for eternity, at least by their lights. Leads to eternal resentment when they lose a part of it, say, Spain.
The article is the very case when the British “pharisaism” turns against the British themselves. More precisely: the pharisaism of the British elites against their own people
To whom and why is it necessary?
Of course such a Mosque as all Mosques are the nesting bed for terrorism it is part of Islamic culture that has most definitely taken hold of all common sense in the United Kingdom. Sharia law enevitably will follow: Sharia legal procedures differ dramatically from western processes in that the use of lawyers is not common, and decisions are made by a judge only – there is no jury system. The law of evidence is also vastly different from what we are used to in the west. Oral testimony is prioritised in terms of evidence and the testimony of witnesses is afforded different legal weight – for example a man’s testimony is worth more than a woman’s, and a Muslim’s testimony is worth more than that of a non-Muslim. Sharia deals with several topics which are addressed by secular law; these include crime, politics, and economics. Sharia also governs personal matters such as sexual intercourse, hygiene, diet, prayer, everyday etiquette and fasting. Though interpretations of sharia vary between cultures, in its strictest and most historically coherent definition it is considered the infallible law of God—as opposed to the human interpretation of the laws.not concerned with the personal and private elements of sharia, which all people have a right to practice provided they do not break the law. We should be concerned only with the criminal and political elements of sharia law, and we aim to inform the reader of what these are and how they are currently manifested in Britain. No way should this application be endorsed the result of such an alteration could be catastrophic for this City.
Here’s a thought experiment. Suppose you had a group of Muslims who genuinely opposed extra-judicial violence. That means, they would not use private violence to enforce sharia law or any aspect of their beliefs, even if they had the political influence to get away with it. Would you want these Muslims in your society?
Keep in mind that the mechanisms of our representative governments give a great deal of power to organized identity groups. Some of the founding fathers who wrote the US Constitution even opposed the creation of parties, figuring that party politics would distort the intent of the Constitution.
But anyway, in a representative government, the policies and laws are subject to interpretation, and the interpretations are made by the executive and the courts. And even the Constitution can be formally modified through an amendment process.
So, the conclusion is that if you allow in people with alien values, even if they adhere strictly to the letter of the law, their values will influence government and social policies. For example, it’s not difficult to set up welfare so a male with multiple wives sets each of them up in a separate residence, they claim to be single mothers, and the more babies, the more welfare. Putting political pressure on welfare agencies and enforcement agencies to overlook this sort of abuse is certainly not violent, but is also terribly destructive of our social system.
In other words, unfortunately, the private beliefs and practices of potential immigrants are just as important as their willingness to adhere to legal procedures. If you allow in enough people with values different from your own, your own life will change, not the mention the life of your kids.
This also extends to non-Muslims. Would we be smart to allow immigrants who don’t believe in border enforcement? They may not commit crimes, and may even add to the economy if they are productive and hard-working, but they will also hasten the total collapse of society.
it’s not difficult to set up welfare so a male with multiple wives sets each of them up in a separate residence, they claim to be single mothers, and the more babies, the more welfare.
Not in the U.S. There is a limit now on the number of children in a single parent family the state will support. And if he’s living with one of the mothers they will rule that family ineligible…unless he has some impairment and “can’t work”.
The other single-parent households will have to submit (like that word!) to workfare programs to stay eligible for the money. California probably has laxer laws. One reason it’s such a popular state for the poor.
The Ipswich Star article is a model of Dhimmitude. My brother went to boarding School in Ipswich in the 1960s and it was a pleasant English country town. God knows what it is like now.
I remember, in an American city near me, a long-dormant neighborhood synagogue, formerly a church, next door to city hall, was converted to mosque through a thin ruse. The synagogue was sold to a developer with an Irish name. He told the city he planned to convert the synagogue to a catering hall that wouldn’t serve liquor. Well, soon enough, the “catering hall” morphed into a mosque. There were just a few squeaks from the neighborhood about preserving a few Jewish-themed external elements like the stained glass windows and two plaster lions of Judah.
I hope they get the “Mosque Buster” lawyer — Gavin Boby, onto this one. He has a very good record for defeating mosque planning permission by using parking and zoning tactics. He beats them at their own game.
“To try to suggest that a new mosque in Ipswich will be nest of terrorists trying to convert the town to an alien religion is like suggesting that churches are all full of Christian fundamentalists hearing nothing but tales of fire and brimstone. That is daft.”
Not half as daft as the writer.
For Paul Geater of the Ipswich Star a learning curve is needed. Here are some quotations.
Geater: “racist comments”- ….Islam is not a race.
Geater: “fanning the flames of sectarian hatred by claiming that every Muslim is an Islamic extremist and potential terrorist.”
“Every muslim is a terrorist” –
Zakir Naik, muslim speaker
“The Koran commands us to use terrorism” –
Ragab Hilal Hamida, Egyptian MP
Geater: “a religion based on hospitality and care for fellow human beings”
“Let them find harshness in you” –
– Koran 9:123, part of Islamic law
“Muslims must kill non-muslims wherever they are unless they convert to Islam” –
– Ali Gomaa, Grand Mufti of Al Azhar, Cairo
“The sharia commands us to battle infidels” –
– Ayman al Zawahiri
“The jihad will lead to smashing Western civilization and replacing it with Islam which will dominate the world” –
– Muhammad Mahdi Akef, Muslim Brotherhood leader 2004-10
Muslims “are merciful to one another but ruthless to the unbeliever” –
– Koran 48:29, part of Islamic law
“Violence is the heart of Islam” –
– Ayatollah Yazdi
“And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him.”
– Koran 3:85, part of Islamic law
“As a Muslim I must have hatred for everything which is not Islam”
– Anjem Choudary
Those are a start.
We have a grave shortage of affordable housing in this country. Why on earth can we not take the opportunity here to build a few new houses or convert this lovely old pub into flats?
When you watch the adverts for a new Ipswich mosque that are still running on the internet – there are several, the longest one which is mostly in Arabic, but well worth watching, is at this link:-
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ipswich+mosque+advert&t=hg&ia=videos&iai=kIrgWtl4yw4&iax=videos
you realise there is no question about it – the old Mulberry Tree pub is to be turned into a mosque.
This ought to be grounds for Ipswich Council to reject the planning application.
The planning application has the following reference:- IP/18/00707/FUL.
I suggest that as many people as possible send in objections to this planning application on the grounds that the video adverts were obviously asking for donations for a mosque.