Boris Reitschuster is a German journalist and vlogger. In the following video, which was recorded at an anti-lockdown demonstration, Mr. Reitschuster interviews a practicing physician whose views on the Wuhan Coronavirus are decidedly politically incorrect.
Many thanks to MissPiggy for the translation, and to Vlad Tepes and RAIR Foundation for the subtitling:
Video transcript:
00:00 | Boris Reitschuster’s interview with German physicians critical | |
00:04 | of governmental Corona policy: “The numbers they present us are manipulative” 3/20/2021, in Kassel | |
00:08 | From over there, I thought you were part of the counter-demonstration, because of | |
00:11 | the “conspiracy theorists” on your sign. —It’s the sign from last week. | |
00:15 | Ahhh, yes. Exactly. You all are doctors, correct? —Yes. | |
00:19 | That’s very interesting; would any of you like to say something? | |
00:22 | We’ll just say the same thing that Sven said last week. | |
00:25 | That was extremely interesting. Nearly 400,000 clicks. I can do it without the camera, | |
00:29 | if someone wants to speak. Well, OK, without the camera, it’s OK. | |
00:33 | OK. I’ll hold the camera over here [on the sign]. | |
00:36 | You’re a doctor, I was told by this lady, so maybe | |
00:40 | you could say why you are here today as a doctor. | |
00:43 | Because I believe what we are being told about medicine isn’t correct. | |
00:48 | It contradicts everything I’ve learned, | |
00:52 | as a doctor. I just can’t accept it. I can’t accept something | |
00:58 | that is fundamentally wrong. Medically wrong. | |
01:03 | What is so wrong, medically, in your opinion? Maybe you could explain it somewhat. | |
01:08 | The numbers they present us with are manipulative. The statements are manipulative. | |
01:15 | In April or at the end of March of last year, | |
01:18 | the Robert Koch Institute (RKI) said that those who died from Corona | |
01:21 | wouldn’t be autopsied. That was the moment where I thought, “Hang on, are we in the Middle Ages? | |
01:27 | Why aren’t we doing autopsies?” If we don’t know anything about the most horrible pandemic | |
01:31 | of our time, it has to be examined. That’s the way it’s always been, ever since the Middle Ages. | |
01:36 | That’s when I thought to myself, something’s wrong here and someone wants to hide something. | |
01:40 | Those were my first thoughts. After that, I did some research and found out about the thing | |
01:43 | with the numbers. They are presented without any relationship to anything, | |
01:48 | and twisted so that new measures can be imposed. | |
01:53 | They are doing it again, right now. The PCR tests were driven up last summer | |
01:58 | just as the infection rate was going down, which led to the measures being extended. | |
02:03 | It’s the exact same thing now. The infection rates are going down. | |
02:07 | So now they are pushing tests again. Now it’s the quick tests. | |
02:10 | The method worked before and now they can do | |
02:13 | it again for the 3rd, 4th, 7th and 8th lockdown. It has nothing to do with medicine, though. | |
02:20 | I remember very well the flu season of 2016-17, when we had 25,000 deaths, | |
02:26 | and so many really sick people. We were worked to death. Everyone, in every doctor’s practice. | |
02:30 | I said to myself then, I don’t ever want to have a repeat of that winter. All I did was work | |
02:34 | and sleep. This time around, we were standing around waiting for patients that never came. | |
02:41 | That’s because no one was sick. There weren’t any piles of corpses either. | |
02:46 | None of my patients died. No one. Not one single person. Even from my older patients. Not one. | |
02:53 | However, now I have someone who has already died from the vaccine. | |
02:57 | Really? What happened? —I can’t say, due to professional discretion. | |
03:03 | Well, just say it anonymously… —OK, yes, well let’s just say, | |
03:08 | it was in connection with a vaccination. | |
03:12 | Within the first couple of weeks following vaccination, it was an older patient, in older patients | |
03:16 | who were recently vaccinated, I observed that their diseases | |
03:19 | that were under control suddenly surged | |
03:22 | out of balance. Completely out of balance. | |
03:25 | This patient got the vaccine, but he didn’t suffer from an | |
03:29 | anaphylactic shock or anything. It was a disease that was completely under control. | |
03:36 | This man was fine, but then he got vaccinated. After the second vaccine he died. | |
03:44 | Mr. Wieler and Mr. Cichutek would counter that by saying it was a coincidence and not causality. | |
03:49 | Exactly, but it’s the same with Corona, isn’t it? I have several patients, | |
03:54 | and tell this to my patients as well. This is someone else’s patient, | |
03:59 | not mine, so I’m able to talk about it. I was told about it through acquaintances. | |
04:03 | This patient had a cold along with his wife. He got better, | |
04:07 | but one morning he collapsed. His wife called the paramedics. | |
04:12 | He was swabbed and it turned out positive. | |
04:15 | He was admitted to the Corona unit at the hospital. He was placed | |
04:18 | on a ventilator. He wasn’t doing well, so he was put on a ventilator. He got the full program. | |
04:22 | After that he was doing a little better, but on the third day | |
04:25 | it went downhill. He had two more CTs done on his lungs. | |
04:28 | Following that, a knowledgeable radiologist pointed out | |
04:32 | that there was air in his abdomen, which isn’t a good sign. | |
04:35 | He suggested that someone examine his abdomen. No one had done that up until that point. | |
04:39 | In the end, he didn’t have Corona at all. | |
04:43 | He had an undiagnosed intestinal carcinoma, which was perforated. | |
04:47 | That means, it burst. —Oh gosh. —He literally had s*** in his stomach. That’s why he was so sick. | |
04:54 | A practical expression. —That’s how it really was. He had a sepsis, | |
04:58 | along with kidney failure and pulmonary failure. | |
05:01 | That was the reason he was so sick, but no one diagnosed it. He survived after an operation, | |
05:10 | although he died later, but he survived all that. I read the report. | |
05:13 | The first thing written was Corona. | |
05:16 | It was horrible, he was on a ventilator and listed as the 14th point, oh, and by the way, | |
05:21 | he had a perforated intestinal carcinoma. —He was probably | |
05:25 | listed in the statistic as a Corona death? Wasn’t he? | |
05:29 | First he was transferred to another hospital, so I don’t know exactly. He was in a rehab center. | |
05:34 | That’s where he died. In the transfer report from the ICU, it stated Corona. | |
05:39 | Totally horrible. —There are no other diseases anymore. Just Corona —Exactly. | |
05:43 | That’s why I asked Mr. Lauterbach this Friday, at the federal press conference, and very few people | |
05:47 | know that since the beginning, only 389 people have died under the age of 50. | |
05:53 | I asked him about the risk-benefit assessment concerning the vaccination with regards to that. | |
05:59 | Mr. Lauterbach made reference to the condition known as “Long Corona”, | |
06:03 | and he said especially younger people | |
06:06 | who contract Corona now could at some point develop depression and other severe diseases. | |
06:13 | What is your response to this sort of argument from Mr. Lauterbach? —In general, following every | |
06:18 | severe disease, there are lingering affects that may remain. After every viral infection. | |
06:25 | We know the same happens with shingles or even after contracting influenza. | |
06:29 | These are post-viral infection syndromes. It isn’t new. | |
06:32 | It exists, but most important is what conditions the | |
06:35 | virus meets. A healthy person will take it in stride, | |
06:41 | but the opposite could lead to residual affects. | |
06:48 | That isn’t new, and it isn’t specific to Corona. Absolutely not. | |
06:51 | This is known for every other viral infection. | |
06:54 | Like herpes, for instance? —Yes, that’s an example, but after influenza as well. | |
07:00 | It can also cause post-viral infection syndrome, with fatigue and so forth and so on. | |
07:04 | Yes, like glandular fever (mononucleosis), that’s fairly well-known. We know all that. | |
07:08 | None of it has anything to do with the Corona virus, and where does he know that? —At least | |
07:15 | it’s not anything new. —No. —It’s not because of the coronavirus. —It’s caused by all viruses. | |
07:18 | Oh, OK. So it could also happen with Corona. —It could happen, but it all depends on the person. | |
07:23 | Most people who get sick won’t have any problems. | |
07:27 | Exactly, when there’s only been 389 deaths, it means everyone else wasn’t on their death bed. | |
07:36 | It means they had it and got over it. It’s gone. | |
07:39 | Just like many, many other virus infections as well. | |
07:42 | He’s acting like every second person will be in bed moaning. I’d like to know how he knows | |
07:49 | what the Corona virus will do… —Mr. Lauterbach knows everything. —Yes. | |
07:55 | That’s the impression I get, too. He already knows | |
07:58 | what residual effects the coronavirus will cause, | |
08:01 | but absolutely ignores long-term side effects from vaccinations. | |
08:06 | That isn’t discussed. —A have a friend that’s a doctor and he says he thinks COVID-19 is actually | |
08:12 | three different diseases. For those under 50, it’s harmless. | |
08:16 | For those 50-70 years old somewhat dangerous, | |
08:20 | but not a killer virus. For those over 80 it is very dangerous. Do you share this estimation? | |
08:27 | Let’s just say for those over 80, every infection could be life threatening. —Not the best age. | |
08:35 | No, it’s just that, for most people over 80, at some point they end up in the hospital and die. | |
08:43 | Everyone dies from something at some point, but it’s usually pneumonia or something like that. | |
08:46 | That’s usually the trigger, if you will, of death. This could be caused by the coronavirus as well. | |
08:53 | Certainly, but also by an influenza virus or any other virus. My 94-year-old mother caught | |
09:00 | a cold from my daughter and it nearly killed her three years ago. Yes, it happens. | |
09:05 | That’s the way I see it. This can happen with every other virus or disease as well. | |
09:09 | Do you support protective measure especially to protect the elderly? | |
09:13 | I think older folks are aware already and that they are grownups. They got that old because | |
09:18 | they are completely capable of protecting themselves and are able to decide whether they want | |
09:26 | to go to crowded public place during flu season or not. | |
09:29 | Of course they don’t, because they don’t want to get sick. | |
09:32 | They should be asked and not treated like underage children. | |
09:37 | They got as old as they are because they can take care of themselves. | |
09:40 | What would you tell Jens Spahn | |
09:43 | if he were to call you tomorrow and tell you | |
09:46 | since he’s been sitting next to Mr. Lauterbach, he’s having doubts | |
09:50 | and wanted to hear someone else’s opinion. What advice would you give him if he wanted to know | |
09:54 | what should be changed about the government’s Corona policy? | |
09:57 | What would be your advice to Mr. Spahn? | |
10:00 | As a doctor, what would you tell him? Just as a reminder, | |
10:03 | I’m speaking to doctors at the demonstration. | |
10:06 | What’s your advice for Jens Spahn? —Self-responsibility. Encourage people to strengthen | |
10:11 | their immune systems, instead of spreading fear. Explain to people how they can strengthen their | |
10:17 | own immune systems, so that they can survive this disease without any problems. | |
10:22 | Do not isolate the elderly. They should be given respect and affection because it strengthens | |
10:31 | their immune system. That’s what they need. | |
10:36 | Don’t blame the entire population or give everyone a guilt trip | |
10:41 | For killing granny/grandpa. Especially our children. —You’re against mandatory masks, I guess? | |
10:49 | I’m against mandatory masks and all of these measures. | |
10:55 | These measures treat us, not just doctors, | |
10:59 | but it treats us as citizens like underage children, and if we behave, | |
11:03 | for Easter we’ll be permitted to do a Easter egg hunt. | |
11:09 | If we don’t behave, then we’re grounded. —Yep! | |
11:15 | I received a nasty letter from the Physicians’ Association. | |
11:20 | Everything’s horrible. I responded, blah, blah. | |
11:24 | Doesn’t matter. They wrote back saying, well you know, | |
11:28 | Daddy said, OK, but if you steal another cookie, | |
11:32 | you’ll be severely grounded and paddled. That’s what they wrote. | |
11:36 | They threaten me. If I step out of line again, | |
11:39 | with anything to do with Corona, then everything will become difficult. | |
11:44 | That’s where I have to ask myself, aren’t we autonomous and responsible citizens? That’s [?] | |
11:54 | That’s what’s going on the entire time here. If we are good and behave well, then great. | |
11:59 | If not, it isn’t. —You got in trouble because of your view of Corona, | |
12:02 | as a doctor, didn’t reflect the opinion | |
12:05 | of the Physician’s Association? —No, because my name is on the list of Doctors for Clarification. | |
12:09 | That’s the reason. —That is a problem? —Yes. Everyone in my area who is on the same list, | |
12:16 | they all received the same nasty letters. —What’s your opinion of the vaccination policy? | |
12:22 | Please stop spreading fear and spread awareness. Shed light on it, explain it, and explain it more. | |
12:26 | That what I’m doing in my practice. It’s important to explain | |
12:30 | that we know nothing about these vaccines at the moment. | |
12:33 | We don’t know what will happen. We especially don’t know what will happen when a vaccinated | |
12:37 | person encounters the “wild” form of Corona. Perhaps this November or something. | |
12:46 | There were experiments conducted on animals with the Corona vaccine, and then infected with Corona. | |
12:51 | There have been ten years of experimentation on the mRNA vaccinations and it always fizzled out. | |
12:58 | While doing animal studies, the animals more or less survived | |
13:02 | the vaccination, but when they were infected | |
13:05 | with the “wild” form of Corona, 100% of the animals died. | |
13:10 | So that’s why all the study results landed | |
13:15 | in the garbage can, and started over from the beginning, because it didn’t work. My question is: | |
13:21 | Why were no animal studies done for these vaccines? | |
13:25 | And what will happen this winter when these people | |
13:28 | come into contact with the “wild” form of Corona? | |
13:32 | Based on past experience with coronavirus vaccines, | |
13:35 | There’s no idea of what might happen. I’m skeptical. | |
13:38 | What advice do you give your older patients, those older than 80? | |
13:41 | Wait. —Wait. You’re not telling them not to vaccinate in general. —Wait. —For now, wait. | |
13:45 | You lack confidence in the vaccine at the moment? —Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. | |
13:49 | Mr. Cichutek, from the Paul Ehrlich Institute said it’s safe, | |
13:52 | and Mr. Wieler said, “just one little poke and you’re safe.” | |
13:55 | Exactly. That why they recalled it recently, right? Because it is so safe, huh? | |
14:00 | At that point, the general public should be asking themselves | |
14:03 | if what is claimed about safety is correct. | |
14:06 | So if you say something like that as a doctor openly, then you have to be | |
14:10 | afraid of repercussions. —Yes. —So it’s better to conceal your identity. | |
14:15 | Yes, that’s it. —Your colleagues are probably treating you as an enemy. | |
14:19 | Nah, a couple of my colleagues had some trouble | |
14:23 | because patients reported them to the Physicians’ Association. | |
14:28 | Or they were reported by relatives of patients who never visited their practices. | |
14:32 | That happened to one colleague. Relatives of patients, who had never been in the doctor’s office, | |
14:36 | wrote nasty letters to the Physicians’ Association. That happens sometimes. | |
14:40 | It even happened to me once about a marital dispute. I got a letter | |
14:45 | from the Physicians’ Association telling me how horrible I am. Then I got another letter from | |
14:48 | the Physicians’ Association, including the complaint, and they requested that I state my position. | |
14:52 | I did that and it was over. Now, anyone can write a letter | |
14:55 | to the Physicians’ Association, and straightaway an investigation | |
14:59 | for professional misconduct is initiated. Doctors aren’t even asked about the complaint | |
15:03 | or if any of the claims are correct. None of what was written was true, | |
15:06 | in the letter. That’s what my colleague said. | |
15:09 | A climate of fear for any doctors that are critical? —Yes. | |
15:13 | That’s how it is. I do know that many colleagues | |
15:16 | think the same as we do, but they’re scared. | |
15:20 | They’re afraid to step out of line, and they follow all the — | |
15:24 | what I call — repressive measures, one by one. | |
15:27 | This way they don’t attract attention. They didn’t become | |
15:30 | doctors to have to fight with the police, the health department or the Physicians’ Association. | |
15:37 | So, just to make sure I understood you correctly, you’re not saying Covid-19 is harmless, but | |
15:41 | the level of danger is being exaggerated. In your opinion, how could something like that happen, | |
15:46 | because it’s the same in almost every European country? Even outside the EU, in Russia, Belarus, | |
15:53 | in the Ukraine and many states in the U.S. have gone back a few steps. Same in the third world. | |
16:00 | Why is that? Have we turned into a society of panic? What’s going on? —Let me just put it this way: | |
16:07 | fear is a good tool for governance. | |
16:12 | Frightened sheep can be controlled by two dogs. | |
16:17 | If sheep confidently walked around on their own, a few more dogs are needed to herd them. | |
16:22 | That’s what we see here today. —That’s sinister. | |
16:27 | You’re mean, but you meant it metaphorically. | |
16:32 | Yes, that was a metaphorical description. So why or how it is the way it is, I have no idea. | |
16:38 | All I can say is, it’s not about health. That would require a different course of action. | |
16:43 | In that case, I’ve heard the argument that smoking should be illegal. | |
16:47 | Yes, or changing the speed limit to 120 kmh on all national highways or something like that. | |
16:51 | That would certainly save more lives. It would save young people’s lives. And so forth. Exactly. | |
16:57 | For cardiovascular disease, nicotine is at the top of the list as risk factor. | |
17:03 | In Germany, 35% of deaths are caused | |
17:08 | by cardiovascular disease, and of those, a large number | |
17:13 | are caused by nicotine. That should be the first thing. In that case, the cigarette industry | |
17:18 | would go bankrupt, but not the entire middle class. —You can’t understand why this is happening? | |
17:24 | I understand that it is NOT about health and it didn’t take me long to figure that out. | |
17:29 | I tell my patients that as well. It’s not about health, | |
17:32 | because that would require a different course | |
17:35 | of action. Why it is happening? I have no idea and I’m not sure I’ll ever find out. | |
17:39 | Do you think there is a larger conspiracy? —I don’t think anything at all. I simply think that — | |
17:44 | [reference to the sign] Exactly. So, I don’t think anything at all. I don’t know. | |
17:48 | You could imagine many things and discuss that for hours. Go ahead. —I feel the same way, | |
17:52 | I simply don’t know either and say I don’t know. I can’t claim that I know anything. —Me neither. | |
17:56 | I’m just very confused because I see many contradictions. —Exactly. Exactly. Let’s just say, | |
18:00 | the things we are being told are so off-the-wall that my response is: | |
18:05 | “Don’t think I’m stupid, because I’m not.” | |
18:14 | In addition to that, all critical voices are silenced, one could even say they’re suppressed. | |
18:18 | If everything made logical sense, then no problem. Why don’t they sit down and have a discussion | |
18:24 | with Prof. Bhakdi and all the others? Dr. Wodarg as well. | |
18:27 | They can conduct an open discussion on T.V. | |
18:30 | and prove what they claim is nonsense, right? —Exactly right. —Sure, they said | |
18:38 | that they would discuss it. Based on my experience in journalism, | |
18:42 | historically, those who won’t discuss something | |
18:45 | and suppress other voices are usually the ones who are wrong. | |
18:48 | The essence of a dictatorship is forbidding contrary opinions or worldviews. | |
18:56 | That’s why I was very skeptical right from the beginning. | |
19:00 | I also read about Prof. Bhakdi and so forth. I questioned why | |
19:03 | he isn’t sitting with the other experts. He offered his help | |
19:06 | multiple times, as far as I know. —They could at least listen to him. —Yes, exactly. | |
19:09 | Whether he’s right or wrong, we don’t know. —Yes. I don’t expect that all government officials | |
19:13 | understand medicine, [SIGN: Public Debate with Dr. Wodarg, | |
19:16 | Prof. Bhakdi, Prof. Drosten & Dr. Streeck] | |
19:19 | but I do expect them to ask people who do, before they make decisions for wide-sweeping measures | |
19:24 | and treat us like underage children or slaves. | |
19:30 | Just to conclude, how do you think we’ll reflect on this Corona time period | |
19:34 | in five years? What would be your wish? | |
19:37 | Well, my wish would be that things don’t return to how they were before Corona. | |
19:46 | It can’t. It’s never going to be the same. I believe that. —Why? | |
19:49 | I’m convinced that there’s a totally different | |
19:52 | awareness present within the population. Especially for people | |
19:56 | who have realised that not everything is the way | |
19:59 | the press says it is. This wasn’t difficult for me because | |
20:04 | I grew up in a family that believed that politicians | |
20:08 | lie all the time, and if they aren’t liars they have to prove it. | |
20:12 | So, it wasn’t that difficult, but not everyone thinks this way. | |
20:16 | For many, it was a big step to start thinking for themselves. | |
20:20 | This independent thinking won’t be turned off ever again. | |
20:25 | Of course, I really hope we don’t end up in a dictatorship. | |
20:28 | I couldn’t bear that, so that’s why I’m here. | |
20:31 | I don’t think that will happen though. I really believe things will change for the better. | |
20:35 | From what I’ve seen here today, I’m completely convinced that, yes, this will change things | |
20:39 | for the better. Just because the good will win, | |
20:45 | but with a greater awareness even for the environment and the rest. | |
20:51 | We can’t ignore the positive effect of the lockdown. | |
20:57 | Should people really be flying to Rome for the weekend? | |
21:06 | Is that really necessary? It’s just a question. It’s very chic. I’m not saying I didn’t do that, | |
21:12 | but in the end we need to ask ourselves what we are doing with our planet. So that’s my wish. | |
21:20 | That the positive aspects are pursued and there’s a discussion about what we can do. | |
21:27 | To move away from a superficial nature, | |
21:34 | living just to have fun and a hedonistic society. | |
21:40 | That should be reconsidered following this time period | |
21:46 | in order to develop a renewed consciousness. | |
21:51 | A last question, then I’ll leave you alone, I promise. | |
21:59 | As a journalist, I want to know if your public broadcast | |
22:06 | license fees are well-invested? | |
22:12 | The only thing I’ll say to that is, at our house, sometimes my husband wants to watch the news, | |
22:20 | and he asks me to leave. I can’t watch it anymore because I get so upset. —That bad? | |
22:27 | Yes, really. My husband tells me the absolute essentials, | |
22:31 | what I need to know. I don’t want it anymore. | |
22:34 | I don’t want to hear it, see it or anything else. | |
22:37 | You just have to pay for it. —Unfortunately, yes. | |
22:40 | That’s the way it is. So, it’s not a good investment. —Not good. | |
22:44 | So, I thank you very much and I wish you a nice day. | |
22:48 | Thank you, and I wish you the best. Thanks. —What I really like is, | |
22:54 | you ask real questions and here you actually get an answer. | |
22:59 | I understand what you are referring to. | |
23:04 | This is a livestream, you are aware of that, right? —You sit at the source, could you please ask | |
23:09 | what will happen to the people who definitely won’t allow themselves to be vaccinated. | |
23:15 | Does that mean we won’t be able to go out or do anything anymore? Will we be locked up? | |
23:21 | No, the official information is that there won’t be | |
23:24 | any negative consequences, but between the lines | |
23:27 | you can read there will be privileges for those who got the vaccination. We don’t know for sure, | |
23:32 | but according to official information there won’t be any negative consequences. | |
23:36 | The huge contradiction here, as I understand it, and you would know about it better as a doctor; | |
23:40 | so please correct me if I’m wrong, is that there is still no evidence of complete protection. | |
23:46 | This means it’s not 100% proven that the vaccinated | |
23:49 | won’t still spread the virus. That is a key point. | |
23:52 | Why should anyone get privileges if they are still | |
23:55 | spreading the virus? At the moment, we just don’t know. —Exactly. | |
24:00 | There is no complete protection. —It’s not yet proven. —My patients ask me this very often: | |
24:04 | “What happens if I don’t get vaccinated?” I tell them, worrying is defined as | |
24:08 | trying to solve problems that aren’t there. —No, that’s right. —So let’s just wait. | |
24:14 | Before it happens, you can’t say anything about it anyway. There are no official statements, | |
24:21 | and you can’t lock up half or two-thirds of the population. | |
24:25 | That’s why it’s good not to get vaccinated at the moment. |