39 thoughts on “The Dutch Election: Devastating for the Ruling Coalition”

1. I am concerned about this Denk party which is totally pro Islam fighting for Arabic schools and language and mosques etc and being in govt entities such as police, military etc. When is the next Dutch election going to be? And how does Denk work with Wilder’s party members in a coalition govt without choking each other?

   • If the attempts at a coalition fail, it could be pretty soon. I am not sure whether the second placed party is given an attempt at a coalition should the winner fail. In any case, that would be pointless because no one will work with Wilders.
     – Even if a government were formed with a patchwork of partners, it is likely to be unstable and could quite possibly fail before its term is supposed to end.
     – Good to see the end of the silly thing called as the grand coalition of the Right and the Left. Nothing but a puppet show designed by globalists.

     • Why won’t anybody work with Wilders? If the Dutch are as conservative (in general terms, “staid”) as people said, then you’d think they’d support their democratic setup rather than fail.

       • It’s called a ‘cordon sanitaire’. I know everything about it. In Belgium, there’s been a ‘cordon sanitaire’ around the Vlaams Belang for, I would have to look it up, for some 26 years now. In The Netherlands, although the term is not used out loud, the effect amounts to exactly the same. Cooperation with the PVV is not done, because: racists, xenophobes, white supremacists don’t you know.

         Hence, the ‘respectable’ parties will NOT enter in a coalition with the PVV.

         “If the Dutch are as conservative (in general terms, “staid”) as people said,”

         The Dutch are nowhere near conservative, apart from some insignificant groups in the country’s own ‘Bible Belt’.

         To the contrary, the Dutch are among the most ‘progressive’ peoples on earth. Naked bike rides, rampant promiscuity, weed smoking, sex at very young ages, nude beaches, sex with animals, even paedophilia are to some extent ‘debatable’. I would have to look it up, but not long ago there was even a party or a political movement for paedophiles, ‘Martijn’ or something like that.

         A fat lot of good will all that progressivism do to the Dutch. They were played like monkeys by Erdogan, whom I suspect of having deliberately provoked Rutte to ‘act tough’ so that the gullible Dutchman in the street would notice that Rutte has some balls after all.

         The big winner of the Dutch elections is indeed Erdogan, who prefers very much a Rutte-like figure as Dutch PM vis-à-vis a Wilders, who would quickly make moves to block the horrifying influence the Turkish government has on the Turkish diaspora.

         Yesterday I opined on my humble blog that now that the elections are over and Rutte is set to continue to be PM, tensions with Turkey will disappear.

         Today I read that Jeanine Plasschaert, the Dutch Minister of Defence and a Rutte surrogate, yesterday already made remarks that they (the VVD) were willing to bury the hatchet.

         The opportunism and callousness are indescribable.

         • I agree with your dysphoric premises and conclusions. The cordon sanitaire around Vlaams Belang was the beginning of our learning curve for dirty tricks in European politics. It makes America’s dirty tricksters look tame by comparison.

           NOTE: For his essay on the Dutch election, see here:

           http://downeastblog.blogspot.com/

           excellent visuals, sir.

         • Appreciate all the details! That is a sad picture indeed. It may be that Holland is lost as well. Dhimmilands rather than netherlands.

           And I think that what you say about Erdo’s move is likely true. All these disgusting shenanigans. For the first time, they are easy to see because of all the various disclosures, and us being able to talk directly. There is hope yet for the rest of us! Peak Islam, right now.

       • Look up the meaning of the word. ‘conservative’ in any good dictionary published prior to 1960 – hence you will get the true meaning and not the distorted meaning that has been imposed on us since that time.

         Then familiarize yourself with how the Dutch government is no where near what that word ‘conservative’ means, no matter what it calls itself.

   • They are not ‘a pro Arab’ party. They are a branch of the AK Party of Erdogan. If I may use a Godwin: this is very much like the NSDAP entering the Dutch parliament in 1938, not under the name NSDAP, but as Denk. So far, Mr. Kuzu has said absolutely nothing at all that was not approved by the head office in Ankara.

2. I am beginning to wonder if Islam does not need to be banned after all. The demographics are working against us, and fast.

   • Thank you for mentioning demographics. Someone once said that much tragedy can be averted by understanding the exponential function.
     – Most people are too focused on the present. They are like turkeys. Look at the demographics by age groups and the fertility rates of various ethnic groups. Chilling.
     – The economist Sanandaji has estimated that ethnic Swedes will be a minority within a decade. But then as Mona Sahlin said: who is a minority and who is a Swede?
     – We are headed for bloodshed. And that is the positive outcome. Submission is the other “peaceful” option.

     • Sweden has already submitted. But it sure doesn’t look all that peaceful.

       You know, I blame the rest of us too…. how could we just go on for years, holding that image of Sweden in the 60s and 70s, working like clockwork? Apart from drinking a bit too much, the Swedes were model citizens. And I still had that image in my head till two years ago! What a rude awakening.

       I mean, Sanders only last year, during his candidacy, still babbled about the wonderful west-socialist Sweden as an exemplary country. Yikes. Only now that Trump mentioned Sweden in one of targeted mumblings, has the media been forced to acknowledge what is really going on there.

       • The Swedish government, bureaucracy and agencies have surrendered to Islam, not yet the people.

         • “The Swedish government, bureaucracy and agencies have surrendered to Islam, not yet the people”.

           They are led by people !

           “A sword never kills anybody, it is a tool in the killer’s hand !

   • I agree demographics work against the western nations and with that their lifestyle will collapse. Right now still their native population generating value and the new parasite population consuming it. Soon they will be retired (and most likely raped and murdered)
     But the new generation of “employees”…
     We have a saying in Hungary: “You can’t build a fort from [excrement]”.
     So then the country will rapidly become the twin of the original islamic hellhole…

3. Of course Islam and its advocates must be banned from western civilization. Islam destroyed Christianity in the middle east 1400 years ago. Now….having ruined the Middle East with its savagery…it looks for other host countries to feed on. Inbred…Savage..and inimical to all decent human aspirations…..this cancerous collection of psychopathic malcontents is poised to overwhelm the soft..effete..self indulgent narcissistic European Snowflakes {non-religious snowflakes at that} who themselves cannot even produce the offspring necessary to insure the survival of their culture.

   While Europeans express shock at people who identify the Invading Hordes ….and punish truth tellers for their uncomfortable FACTS….They stupidly await their demise. Merkel seems to be a malformation of a human in a body that appears normal.

   good luck to all of you.

   • Islam was invented to counter the human potential that Christianity represented. When one looks at all the ‘religions’ adhered to on this planet, only Christianity encourages the spirit of humanity to develop, and so therefore, Christianity became a threat to the world status quo resulting in its eventual destruction and to be replaced with a system that defers to the controllers of humanity who have been at it for a very long time.

     • Well if you don’t think Judiasm also encourages human potential– the Jews sure have flourished and richly contributed to societies wherever they have gone. I would say they they have very closely matched the greatness of Christian achievement.

       • I don’t disagree with much of your comment at all Gretel.

         But it was Christianity, not Judaism that spread all around the world at that time. And it was the sudden and rapid spreading of the ‘word’ that gave Christianity its impetus within the older cultures of the world that had previously rejected Judaism due to its theist belief.

4. Yes, not the disaster for Wilders the media are trying to spin. He now leads the second largest party, formerly the third largest. The governing party has lost seats as have the parties of the Left. He is well positioned, when his time comes. In the meantime he can lean on the Government with issue regarding Islam as it’s an issue that is not going away.

   • If not for the poll surge that was reported for the PVV awhile back that raised expectations so high for Wilder’s party, this election results would have been seen as a resounding success for PVV — which it was.

     We know the polls were heavily manipulated in the American election so as to make Clinton “inevitable.” I don’t trust public polls; they’re used as propaganda tools to generate headlines and sway public opinion.

     I think the poll that showed PVV way ahead was a PsyOp to allow the corporatist mockingbird media to downplay PVV’s real success, as it turns out, in becoming the second largest party and to demoralize supporters and blunt PVV’s momentum.

   • In five years the time will have passed. The dutch voted for death. It certainly would have given momentum to the french, maybe even to the germans if Wilders had won. As is, those people might not vote for LePen, certainly not against merkel, lest they will be looked upon as racist nazi persons. Europe is pretty much gone.

     • The French do not take their cues from the Dutch (or anyone else), so Marine Le Pen’s prospects have not been significantly dimmed. The Germans are another matter; the AfD has an uphill battle.

       I agree about the Dutch having blown their last chance, however. This was their last call, and they declined it. I don’t think any meaningful change can occur now until there is a systemic collapse — that is, change will occur when the existing order self-destructs. Which it inevitably will. I’m not sure how long it will take, but it can’t sustain itself indefinitely.

5. Excellent article, Mr Bodissey.

   I agree that people are somewhat disheartened right now so they may not have done the numbers. Wilder has gained many seats and significant influence. Whether Prime Minister Rutte chooses to recognize the sea change remains to be seen.

   It is inexplicable to me that someone would proudly declare that they won’t work with a party that came in a solid second and that kept them up at night, sweating and scheming.

   • Here’s the way it looks to me — I’m hoping H. Numan will weigh in with a more informed analysis:

     It would be very difficult for Rutte and the VVD to form a coalition with GroenLinks, which is a hard-left party. However, he should be able to work with the CDA and D66, no problem.

     If he excludes the possibility of the PVV, that would leave him with a minority. But the VVD formed a minority government not all that long ago. I can’t remember if it was after the 2012 election, or before. I think it was VVD and the CDA — very similar circumstances. They couldn’t allow Wilders into the government, but after negotiations, the PVV agreed to “support” the minority government without being part of the coalition.

     Our Dutch readers may be able to flesh out the details of that one, which I don’t remember.

     • The 2011 election resulted in a minority cabinet of VVD and CDA.
       The PVV agreed to “support” the minority government without being part of the coalition. This support was to be on some but not all issues. Due to deep disagreements (or perhaps design) this cabinet blew itself up 6 months later.
       Main players; VVD 31 seats, CDA 21 seats, PVV 24 seats

       The 2012 election resulted again in a minority cabinet of VVD and PvdA (social dem.) This minority cabinet was to gather support on an ad hoc bases among the oposition.
       Main players; VVD 41 seats, PvdA 38 seats, PVV 15 seats, CDA was sent to the sideline with 13 seats.

       Note; With hindsight blowing up the 2011 cabinet seemed to be unnecessary. It could have continued by gathering ad hoc support among the opposition. After all the 2012 cabinet pulled of the same trick for the full four years. It looks like this event has been engineered to put the blame on Wilders and to damage him. And it worked, in 2012 the PVV went down from 24 to 15 seats. Now in 2017 the PVV is back again with 20 seats.
       Baron you state the VVD as a center-right party. It is not.
       It used to be a long time ago but since the nineties it slowly shifted to slight center-left.

       • None of the “center-right” parties are to the right of anything but Lenin anymore. They all shifted to the left of the median pole a long time ago. The designation simply declares that a party is not quite as much of a leftist party as the “center-left”.

         I’ve been studying Western European politics closely for more than ten years now, and every party seems to be socialist. Different flavors, but all socialists. The only exception I’ve noticed that has any signicant popularity is Vlaams Belang in Flanders.

         • I beg to differ. Yes I agree with you on Vlaams Belang.
           But what about all the other parties, like PVV, AfD, Fidesz, Golden Dawn, UKIP, SVP and many more. You can hardly call them socialists. And the Front National, would you call Marine Le Pen a socialist?

         • Yes, all of them are socialists (except possibly AfD, whose policies I don’t know much about), from an American perspective. All assume significant state intervention in various activities such as health care, state pensions, etc. They’re traditional European social democrats of varying degrees. They expect the state to manage national economic activity. I don’t have anything against them for that; that’s just the European tradition.

           Those that are also strongly nationalist are national socialists. That phrase is not pejorative — unfortunately, Hitler turned it into something that connotes demonic evil, but it doesn’t have to be that way; it’s simply a combination of nationalism and socialism. Marine Le Pen is a syndicalist, therefore a national socialist. The BNP is another national socialist party. Jobbik and Golden Dawn are national socialist with the tendency to slide towards fascism (i.e. a more authoritarian state that abridges civil liberties). The last three parties I mentioned incorporate signicant amounts of Jew-hatred in their rhetoric, which means they’re flirting with the original model of national socialism from the 1930s.

6. Merkel likely asked Turkey to stage a provocation to allow Rutte to ‘stand firm’ against that, and his VVD Party ended up losing only a handful of seats, while the Labor Party lost many, almost to the point of invisibility. Meanwhile Wilder’s Freedom Party made respectable gains. This was an end-run around Wilders by the corrupt Rutte and Turkey’s butcher Erdogan.

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   Just as the Democrats in the US so richly deserve the same. I’m so tired of Obama in his Washington bunker planning insurrection against a sitting President. He should be hauled out like Saddam from his hidey-hole and put on trial for the dozens of laws he broke during his 8 years of misrule.

   • PvdA appears to have lost out to GroenLinks, but Imagree that the left in general appears to have lost and the GL gains ought to give no comfort to lefties in the face of PvdA losses.

7. Up next is the big game, you know, the frogs. I hold out little hope enough patriots will answer the call and vote FN.

8. So Dutch democracy now means the total exclusion of the second most popular political party…..

   We are now in a demographic race against time. Will Europeans vote for their continued existence before their dwindling numbers exclude them from the democratic process? If they do not, what will then be left open to them in their battle for survival? I stand by my assertion that European’s love affair with diversity and tolerance will lead to civil war akin to 1990s Yugoslavia, but played out on a continental scale.

   • I agree. When the real war comes, everything will be up for grabs. But Sweden and Holland will be at a significant disadvantage by that point, by not nurturing the opposition when they still could.

     Baron, I would add two groups a real neo-Nazis in Ukraine in with the ruling junta. In love with the swastika and torch lit marches, the lot. They are the ones who staged the Odessa massacre.

9. It will take more hits on the Dutch before the people demand that the Islamists are dealt with. The longer they wait the more violent will be the confrontation. And when the tipping point is reached, the end game could go either way. This is survival of civilization stuff.

10. A spectular victory for Rutte’s VVD: from 41 seats down to 33. And a crushing defeat for Wilders’ PVV: from 15 seats up to 20. The Dutch Labor party had a not so good day: from 38 to 9 seats, this 76% reduction in electoral support rendering it near irrelevant.

    It is worth bearing in mind that to form government in the Netherlands, a coalition needs only 75 seats. The VVD with 41 could have formed a two party coalition with the Labour Party which had 38 seats, but chose not to presumably because of the historical ideological gulf between the two parties – a “gulf” in European terms.

    The cordon sanitaire against the PVV will not hold forever. If the change in electoral support for the PVV and VVD is replicated at the next election, the PVV’s 33% increase will give it 27 seats and the VVD’s 20% reduction in support, will give it 27-28 seats. The more conservative elements of the VVD (Wilders’ old party until it voted for Turkey joining the EU) will either drift into the PVV or pull VVD rightwards.

    The center-right CDA had a very good election, going from 13 to 19 seats. If it could replicate that 46% percentage increase in the next election it would have 27 seats. The CDA is, in reality, something a natural ally of the PVV, it is just that the former emphasizes Christian democracy, the latter anti-Islam democracy.

    The D66 party also had a good election, but it would be far more likely to join a coalition with Greenlinks than with the PVV.

    One can easily foresee a PVV-CDA-VVD coalition government with a combined 75 plus seats in one or two election cycles in the future, Of course for this to happen, the VVD would have to jettison Rutte – something very much on the cards as the next VVD-led coalition will be highly unstable and those on the right of the VVD would be happy to be in coalition with the PVV, not least to maintain their power as a party of government.

    I’d be interested in H.Numan’s take on such a scenario. He may have a better informed understanding of the CDA which blows my scenario out of the water.

    • Thank you so much for clearly explaining this method of elections and representation.

11. How concerned really are Dutch people about Islamisation, I wonder? They have been voting for people like Pim Fortuyn and Geert Wilders for a while, which is impressive, especially compared to Ostrich-like UK, but they also have a very liberal tradition (nothing wrong with that). Could it be that for many (especially the young), gay marriages and smoking hasheesh are more important than not submitting to the religion of submission?

    • Yes. And their education system and media have been demonizing any opposition to the multicultural ideal with such vigor for 40 years they have become mentally incapacitated from believing what they hear and see every day of their lives.

12. Why not go for coalition of VVD, CDA, D66 and 50plus? Surely the pensioners will not support giving away more freebies to the Muslims of fighting age illegally flooding their country?!

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