Here We Go Again

Note: The following post accompanies Takuan Seiyo’s latest piece. Both are being kept “sticky” until tonight. Scroll down for other posts that have appeared since Wednesday.

Entrance to Auschwitz

Certain posts at Gates of Vienna, among them those by Takuan Seiyo, tend to attract the attention and comments of people who are preoccupied with the Jews. They frequently refer to “Holohoax” in World War Two, often supplementing their scornful references with obscenities or derogatory epithets.

I generally delete such comments without publishing them. One of them came in this morning, the second or third such screed submitted on Takuan Seiyo’s latest post. Before I deleted it, I sent it to Takuan, just to show him what was coming in. He suggested that I go ahead and post it, followed by his response.

So here’s the comment by “Anonymous” [typos in the original]:

Some interesting points, a lot of waffle and some errors. Your stated view that the WW2 ‘Holocaust’ resulted in the old 6 million dead Jews is well past its sell-by date. Top class, modern historians now regard that figure as grotesquely disproportionate. The Red Cross AND the German Government counted less than 150,000 for ALL deaths in ALL camps other than those behind Russian lines. It’s now commonly called the HOLOHOAX. It is one of the most successful internationsal businesses of all time.

A response from Takuan Seiyo:

You have the temerity to post this kind of Nazi apologist garbage in a comments thread of an article by a writer whose gentile grandparents had been murdered in a concentration camp and whose gentile mother spent two years in a labor-extermination camp, was a state witness in the post-war trial of its commandant, and relayed her wartime experiences to this writer directly. Moreover, a writer who was born and grew up one hour by car from Auschwitz and three kilometers from the plant where the firm Hoch und Tiefbau AG had built the crematoria for that camp. In which, alone, 2.5 million people were murdered, 1 million of them Jews. And that’s according to the testimony its commandant Rudolf Hoess, based on data from SS-Obersturmbannführer Adolf Eichmann.

Moreover, you desecrate the memory of Witold Pilecki plus other Polish officer escapees from Auschwitz who produced written reports, e.g. Jerzy Tabeau and Kazimierz Piechowski — all of them of impeccable “white” credentials way beyond what you and other White Nat lunatics may ever aspire to. I am omitting here reports by Jewish escapees, for example the Vrba-Wetzler report, as well as the fate of the Jewish part of my family during the war, so as to skirt the whole specious Joooos-tainted-it aspect of your comment.

It’s true that legitimate modern-day attempts to calculate the number of the Holocausts’ victims produce a range of numbers. The lowest for Auschwitz, for instance (by the Polish historian Franciszek Piper), cites 1.1 million victims, in contrast to the 2.5 million estimate — interesting, however, that even in that much-reduced number the Jewish victims component remains the same 1 million as in the bigger total-victim figures. The highest figure cited for Auschwitz is 4 million.

The lowest legitimate estimate of victims of the Jewish Holocaust cites 5.1 million instead of the accepted meme “6 million”. There is room for different methodologies and re-evaluations; there are difficulties, including the fact that much of the physical plant was erased by the Germans. For instance, the Belzec Extermination Camp, where 600,000 Jews were murdered plus some 2,000 Poles in punishment for sheltering or aiding Jews, was entirely plowed under by its German operators before they fled the advancing Soviet Army.

By the way — Belzec too had many direct witnesses from non-Jewish sources, including the famous Jan Karski who snuck in and out, and this writer’s mother who saw freight trains packed with people sardine-style, some of them acquaintances and one a family member, leaving for Belzec, and those “passengers” never returning, with the Polish train conductors telling Polish and Ukrainians bystanders at the station that what they had seen just from the gates of Belzec was Hell on Earth.

Also by the way — here too there are legitimate differences of interpretation, assessment of evidence etc. The lowest valid estimate of Belzec victims is not 600,000 but 500,000.

To erase by a stroke of the pen the best-documented event in history in order to produce the 150,000 number you cite is an act of supreme evil. Please do Gates of Vienna readers a favor and post elsewhere.

I will deal in a later chapter with the issue of White Nats’ desperate massaging of Holocaust history as an attempt to wrest Western history from what, to them, should have been the losers, in order to place the skein of narrative back in the hands of what ought to have been the winners, that is, “white people.” They don’t quite get that WW2 is a story of the ultimate triumph of Western Civilization and of Whites, and that there is no need at all to lie or fall prey to wishful delusions. The losers who wrested the skein of history are not “the Jews” or “the coloreds” but white Marxists-Socialist professors in the 1960s. What they lost is their faith in the infallibility of Marxist dialectics, in view of how prosperous and content the Western proletariat had become.

That quite a few key figures among them were Jews is another matter — but that has nothing to do with historical facts of the Holocaust which, by then, had been firmly documented, catalogued and established for what all but a few Nazis in hiding thought would be all time.

Yet, here we go again.

— Takuan Seiyo

Auschwitz survivors

One thought on “Here We Go Again

  1. You are Polish, right? Witam Ciebie serdecznie :-)

    Thank You for speaking out! These kind of people are the worst pseudo-allies one can get.

    ///That quite a few key figures among them were Jews is another matter

    Yes. I happen to be a Pole but also a Reform Jew and I have NOTHING at all against stating the obvious-some of the worst stalinist criminals had indeed a Jewish background. But they were not real Jews, they were Atheists and had a specific hatred for Judaism as well. Whatever they did-they did it not because they were Jewish but in spite of it-People need to understand that.

    The after-war Progrom of Kielce f.e was orchestrated by the stalinist secret service (in which 40% had a Jewish background). Them being murderers (and shameless at that, like Helena Wolinska) had NOTHING to do with their Jewish background. It had more to do with the soviets looking for human scum, recruiting specifically among whatever minority they could lay their hands on (in the case of Poland- a religious minority-had there been other minorities they would have taken them instead).

    In short- by not talking about these people (for fear of sounding anti-Semitic because they were somewhat Jewish) I believe we are feeding anti-Jewish resentment, the myth of a “Jewish conspiracy”, of “impunity for Jews only”.
    We are depriving their victims of the rememberence they deserve.
    We are forgetting, what Martin Luther King was trying to teach us.

    But its really easy indeed- People of Jewish faith/background are just that-people,of whom some are criminals. As a Jewish Pole, I, on the ground of the Thora and Talmud, condem them for what they are -murderers, robbers, criminals,thugs. Some of this sorry excuses for human beings are described in a book which deals with stalinist criminals in Poland in general: Tadeusz P. “Bestie”.

    Take care!

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