Anestos Canelides returns with a new essay, this time about the Ground Zero mosque. See the bottom of this post for links to his previous articles.
Are they lying to us?
The deception behind the Manhattan Mosque
by Anestos Canelides
Is the creation of an Islamic cultural center and mosque at Ground Zero truly a way for Muslims to reach out, not only to other faiths, but to the American people?
Would such as project create more tolerance between Islam and non-Muslims? Are the proponents of this mosque really being upfront and honest with us?
The Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf and his wife Daisy Khan, both major proponents of the mosque, clearly pointed out the tolerance that the Cordoba Initiative would bring to New York by the construction of this community center. According the Daisy Khan, “Your support is a reflection of the great history of mutual cooperation and understanding that Jewish and Muslim civilization has shared in the past, and remains a testament to the enduring success of our continuing dialogue and dedication to upholding religious freedom, tolerance and cooperation among all of us as Americans.”
Again the same mantra is repeated when Imam Rauf states, “Park 51 will be a home for all people who are yearning for understanding and healing, peace and collaboration and interdependence. We are all more determined than ever to take this opportunity, which we also see as a responsibility to our community and to our neighbors in lower Manhattan. We are creating a new space where fresh stories of cooperation and service will reflect the living vibrancy of interconnected communities.”
Of course, anyone who is against the mosque in Manhattan is a bigot or racist for denying the Muslims their First Amendment rights. The Imam’s own mission statement clearly appeals for tolerance and openness to other faiths, and also calls for an innovative strategy for cross-cultural engagement. Of course they state that the Cordoba initiative will tackle our common problems and leverage contacts in influential positions within the Muslim and the non-Muslim worlds. They claim that thinking outside of the box about international and intercultural conflict resolution also means thinking introspectively about each side’s place within its own historical narrative and worldview to devise internally-oriented solutions.
Are they speaking the truth or is this more deception?
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The Qur’an teaches that a Muslim can deceive the unbeliever when it is to his advantage. We see this in the doctrine referred to as taqiyya that even allows a Muslim to deny his own faith but still receive forgiveness from Allah, when to do so would protect him from harm.
According to the human rights activist Joel Richardson1, “So Muhammad actually encourages Muslims to lie and blaspheme and deny their beliefs if that would protect them.” It is my contention that proponents of the New York Islamic Cultural Center are not telling the full story, and that historically there are grounds for Muslims to lie to the kuffar or unbeliever as well as to their fellow Muslims
How can I take the word of Feisal Abdul Rauf, the chairman of the so-called Islamic Center, seriously when he believes that the Jews might have perpetrated 9/11? And that if America only knew about Jewish culpability then they would do to the Jews what Hitler had done to them? This is hardly an example of tolerance and intercultural understanding.
On 2008 he revisited the question of whether Sharia law should be incorporated into Western legal and political systems. He supports separate enclaves in Great Britain that would be governed by a separate set of laws consistent with Sharia law. He also made the following statements: “The only law that the Muslim needs already exists in the Koran and the Hadith.” And: “For that, we collectively believe that the state that was erected by the Prophet in Medina was the ideal model for an Islamic state. The challenge today in the Islamic world is how do we accomplish this in our current era.”
Such blatant statements make me wonder what deception, lies and hate would spew out of this mosque. After all, “war is deception”, as Mohammed said, and the Islamists are at war with us.
I don’t have full knowledge of where he stands, but comments the Imam has made make me wary of his efforts. Rauf writes, “People asked me right after the 9/11 attack as to why do movements with political agendas carry [Islamic] religious names? Why call it ‘Muslim Brotherhood’ or ‘Hezbollah (Party of Allah)’ or ‘Hamas’ or ‘Islamic Resistance Movement’? I answer them this — that the trend towards Islamic law and justice begins in religious movements, because secularism had failed to deliver what the Muslim wants, which is life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.” He also said “ The only law that the Muslim needs exists already in the Koran and the Hadith.”
Is this a rejection of our constitutional law?
War is deception
As mentioned above, Muslims are allowed to deceive the kuffar; especially when it is to their advantage. This is derived from two specific doctrines called kithman and taqiyya. Kithman is a command to deliberately conceal one’s beliefs.
“You belong to a religion that whoever conceals it,
Allah will honor him and whoever reveals it,
Allah will disgrace him.”2
According to Islamic beliefs, Muhammad commanded the faithful to hide what they truly believe in order to deceive unbelievers about the true nature of their religion. “The word al taqiya literally means: concealing or disguising one’s beliefs, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions and or strategies at a time of imminent danger.”3
If their real intentions and the sources of the funding for the mosque were revealed, then it could well put the Cordoba Initiative in jeopardy. If that happened, more Americans would wake up to the real threat, and it this is why they can justify any deception. Ignorance of Islam makes the uneducated kuffar or liberals into easy prey for their deception, so that they are willing to allow the Islamists to construct this insult to the people who died on 9/11, to build this monument to Islamic conquest.
If Imam Rauf and his associates really want to create an interfaith tolerance and understanding, they must be more upfront about their funding and their true intentions for this so-called community center and mosque. Will it be a real interfaith center, or will it be strictly for Muslims?
I believe the construction of this mosque on Ground Zero is nothing less than an act of Islamic supremacism. Nor will this be the end of the matter — the plan is for the construction of more of these Islamic “cultural centers” throughout our great nation. Americans must not only wake up to this threat, but also become aware of the deception aimed at them.
I would like to believe that the majority of Muslims in the USA are not the real threat, and that they should be respected.
Build the mosque, but not at Ground Zero.
Anestos Canelides has a master’s degree in history from Eastern Washington University, and lives in Arizona.
|1.||Richardson, Joel. The Islamic Anti Christ, WND Books, Los Angeles, 2009 153-156|
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|2010||May||29||The Last Empire|
|Jun||18||The Muslim Devastation of India|
There is no need to build this mosque at all. There is an existing mosque only two blocks away, so this is purely to show their victory over the US. It serves no other purpose whatsoever.
We know that muzlim doctrine makes lying mandatory, so we would be absolutely foolish to trust anything any muslim tells us at anytime about any subject. We would be simply stupid to believe what they are telling us about this mosque. It should be stopped cold right now with no further discussion.
It is time to make muzlims persona non gratia in America. They are against America, they are here for the purposes of destroying us, they are not to be trusted, and we would be much better off if they all simply left. Let us make them all unwelcome.
Would such a project create more tolerance between Islam and non-Muslims?
Close but no cigar. The real intent is to create unmerited tolerance between non-Muslims and Islam. This is an altogether different thing from “tolerance between Islam and non-Muslims” which, quite simply, DOES NOT EXIST.
Rauf’s Ground Zero mosque project is just another element of the softening-up process already well underway. Highlighting this is the fact that many regard Feisal Abdul Rauf as A Muslim “moderate” despite the fact that he has not shown any support of the Freedom Pledge dedicated to preserving life and liberty for Islamic apostates.
The fact that Rauf altered the English-release title of his book, “What’s Right with Islam”, to avoid reflecting that of his Malaysian edition, (translated) “Call from the WTC Rubble“, speaks volumes.
Are the proponents of this mosque really being upfront and honest with us?
Ummmm … no.
Again the same mantra is repeated when Imam Rauf states, “Park 51 will be a home for all people who are yearning for understanding and healing, peace and collaboration and interdependence.
It must be understood that this “mantra” is entirely correct insofar as Islam defines “people”. There is no taqiyya going on here, just an adamant Western refusal to comprehend that WHEN ISLAM SAYS “PEOPLE”, IT MEANS “MUSLIMS” AND ONLY MUSLIMS.
Deceit is so ingrained into Islamic identity that there is no cognizance of mistruth when making these highly selective statements. Muslims simply DO NOT esteem non-Muslims as worthy co-equals. Period.
Arguably, the terms “collaboration and interdependence” would seem to indicate “inter-faith” dialogue but nothing is farther from the truth. Such terms could just as easily apply to Muslims only while still retaining all of their meaning for said Muslims and this is the point.
They claim that thinking outside of the box about international and intercultural conflict resolution also means thinking introspectively about each side’s place within its own historical narrative and worldview to devise internally-oriented solutions.
More unadulterated horseradish. In Islam, there is no such thing as “thinking outside of the box”. To do so is A DEATH WARRANT.
Per Feisal Abdul Rauf: “For that, we collectively believe that the state that was erected by the Prophet in Medina was the ideal model for an Islamic state. The challenge today in the Islamic world is how do we accomplish this in our current era.”
The “challenge” to “accomplish this in our current era” is nothing less than a crime against humanity. Simply put:
THERE IS NO WAY TO FULFILL THE PROPHET’S MANDATE OF A GLOBAL CALIPHATE IN SUCH SHORT ORDER WITHOUT NUCLEAR TERRORISM, GENOCIDAL LOSS OF HUMAN LIFE OR, CONVERSELY, PRECIPITATING A MUSLIM HOLOCAUST. PERIOD.
There are radical clerics who would rather see every man, woman and child on earth perish − with Muslims in their paradise and unbelievers roasting in eternal Hell − rather than share this world with even a single non-Muslim and the grim alternative of a Muslim holocaust has no deterrent value.
Such blatant statements make me wonder what deception, lies and hate would spew out of this mosque.
Three words: ALL OF THEM
Per Feisal Abdul Rauf: I answer them this — that the trend towards Islamic law and justice begins in religious movements, because secularism had failed to deliver what the Muslim wants, which is life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”
This is so far from the truth that it should be legally actionable. There is no such thing in Islam as “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness”.
If Imam Rauf and his associates really want to create an interfaith tolerance and understanding, they must be more upfront about their funding and their true intentions for this so-called community center and mosque.
Such actions would contradict “interfaith tolerance and understanding”.
What more needs to be said regarding this obscenely triumphal Muslim monument? That is, aside from “building permit unanimously denied!”
“Are they lying to us?”
Islam is at war with the world.
Since 622 A.D.
Their own “prophet” saith:
War is deceit.
Until Muslims Reform OUT their Koran’s sanctified call to Holy Terror and Endless War, why would any sane infidel dog trust a damned word they speak?
Extensive profile of Imam Rauf
Feisal Abdul Rauf
By Alyssa Lappen
An investigative report prepared for ACT! for America
Quote: Described in one Asian report as an Egyptian citizen living in the U.S., as journalist Alyssa A. Lappen
observed in May 2010, Rauf’s assertions like those of his father before him “merely fulfill the Muslim Brotherhood doctrine of flexibility — adapting to each and every environment in which the brothers eventually hope to force Islamic law upon the masses. Rauf’s
claims starkly represent taqiyya, the Islamic practice of deception, to further theocratic and essentially fascist Islamic advances. And the additional “leeway” Rauf seeks for intracommunity religious-law enforcement is a thinly veiled attempt to impose sharia more widely in the U.S., in direct contravention of the U.S. Constitution.34
Are they lying to us?
Is water wet?
Personally, I would be quite nervous about worshipping a deity that’s comfortable with deceit.
Just out of curiousity…how do they know that He isn’t lying to THEM?
Wormme, I don’t think it’s the deceit that’s problem with their deity, I think its the adocation of mass genocide in regards to those who don’t worship him.
Keith Olbermann decided to make some stupid comments about this. I broke it down, for anyone who is interested.
What Fools These Mortals Be
The more you read about this ‘imam,’ the more you realise that he is no moderate at all but a triumphalist who expects the West to ‘confess’ its misdeeds. No way.
All Western bloggers in all countries should be orchestrating resistance. It’s not just America’s fight.
I am against any more mosques being built anywhere, even in Mecca for that matter.
Considering the fact that Muslims worldwide have a disgraceful history of demolishing the monuments, houses of worship, and even cemeteries belonging to non-Muslims, I have neither sympathy nor respect for their demands for “freedom of worship.”
The Ground Zero Mosque or ANY mosque has the potential, and in fact the likelihood, of becoming a focus of jihadism and a source of subversive propaganda (taqiyya). That is simply because jihadism (and no, I do not mean “internal struggle”) and taqiyya are central and indispensible tenets of Islam.
If the 9-11 mosque in the US were to be built, it too would become a pilgrimage and recruitment center for jihadis. This is a matter, not only of respect for the dead, but also of national security.
While the tranzi-progressive/pro-jihadi NYC bureaucrats, politicians, and media pundits are doing everything they can to smooth the way for this mosque (and being very self-righteous about their reasons for this), they are creating every possible obstacle to the rebuilding of St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church, which was destroyed in the 9-11 attack when the South Tower fell on it.
Rebuild St. Nicholas CHURCH at Ground Zero, not a mosque
The parish still has an active congregation but no building; they have been meeting to worship in Brooklyn. Now, many of us Orthodox Christians, working pretty much independently by word of mouth among friends and parishoners, have finally succeeded in getting some news media attention to this matter.
Once again, I’m asking for your help.
I’d like to ask all Americans supporting St. Nicholas Church to call, write, or better yet, GO AND VISIT the offices of their US Representative and US Senators. You will probably just get to talk to a staffer, but the staffer will pass this information along. It makes a BIG difference if you take the trouble to write a personal letter or show up in person.
Everyone, please, pass the information along to everybody else you know who might be interested. Put it on Facebook, repost it on your own blog, email it to your friends and relatives, whatever else you can think of.
Let’s keep this issue before the public eye!
“Are they lying to us?”
The religious bigots who push for and pay for the building of this victory tower, while knowing full well the pain and suffering of the people of New York and elsewhere both in 2001 and now, are suffering from one of the most insidious hate inducing diseases known to human kind.
Scientists all across the free thinking world refer to this disease as:
Massive Uncontrollably Sexist Lie Infested Mouth Syndrome
Common symptoms include but are not limited to:
Viewing women as possessions.
Hatred and/or spontaneous execution of women.
Hatred and/or spontaneous execution of gays.
Hatred and/or spontaneous execution of non M.U.S.L.I.M.S suffering individuals or even other M.U.S.L.I.M.S suffering individuals who one believes to have a less acute case of the disease.
A need to stone people to death at the drop of a hat.
A need to blow one’s self up among crowds of innocent people.
A need to blow up schools full of children.
A need to forcibly cut off the private parts of female relatives.
A need to dismember women in general for what ever reason one can think of.
An inability of opening one’s mouth without lying or threatening to launch nuclear weapons at Jewish villages.
If you or anyone you know experience any of these symptoms or find that guilty, liberal racists blindly follow your every lie. SEEK HELP IMMEDIATELY!
Yes, they ARE lying.