8 thoughts on “Heinz-Christian Strache: Defending the Judeo-Christian Occident”

1. It cant be stated enough the importance of shoring up the Christian heritage and underpinning of European societies and systems. The zeitgeist has been since the 60s the tearing down of that Christian heritage and underpinning, via moral and cultural relativism, (and the expansion of freedom)…in order to benefit any and all minority or “historically disadvantaged” groups.

   The problem is that this weakened Christian authority, has allowed Islam to waltz in and set up shop. And that is bad news for everybody.

   Secular Hedonism can not stand.

2. European anti-Semitism still abounds, but 95% of it can be found on the Socialist Left in unholy alliance with Islam.

   Even if this is true: So what?

   Why would/should the fate of Israel matter so much to Europeans? Why should we be such bitter partisans on one side or another in these intra-Semitic squabbles??

   I just don’t get it.

3. @hailtoyou:

   I just don’t get it.

   Clearly not. Viewing the fate of the State of Israel as simply “an intra-Semitic squabble” is to discount the notion that the Islamic, antisemitic threat to Israel and the Islamic, anti-European/Christian threat to Europe are related, if not completely in pari materia.

   There are plenty of blogs that decry any and all attempt to link Islamic antisemitism with the Islamic threat to Europe; GoV is generally not among these.

4. Nonsubhomine,

   If the entity of Israel were dissolved and the entity of “Palestine” were to return, how would your life be affected? How would European and American Christians be affected in any way?

   It seems that some in the Counter-Islamic Movement are far more interested in cheerleading for a Semitic group’s hardline-ethnostate (Israel), than in pushing for their own nations’ interests. This continues to puzzle me.

   I am genuinely interested in hearing this rationalized.

5. hailtoyou: “If the entity of Israel were dissolved and the entity of “Palestine” were to return, how would your life be affected?”

   I find your question and its phrasing to be disingenuous. Your calling Israel an “entity” instead of a country says a lot about you. But, here goes nothing….

   1. Islam is a supremacist political ideology hell bent on subjugating ALL of humanity as slaves to Allah – an all-around evil “entity” who, among his other flaws, encourages Muslims to violently cut off the clitorises of little girls (140 million and counting) and then forcibly marry the little girls to adult male cousins.

   Islam convinces its followers that the whole world belongs to Allah, and Muslim jihadis must reclaim the whole world by any available means including cruel and unusual violence against non-Muslims. Any country including Israel (and Sudan) that the world surrenders as a concession or appeasement to the United Nations’ Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) convinces Muslims that Muslims will indeed conquer the whole world for Allah and exponentially increases the propensity for all Muslims to use violence to achieve their political aims – because Muslims regularly use 1) actual violence against Israel (and Sudan), and 2) the threat of violence against Western nations who support Israel (and Sudan).

   2. Many of the most holy sites of Judaism and Christianity are located in Israel. When Israel controls these holy sites, the holy sites are available for all religions to visit and pray.

   Recent experience shows that the specter of Muslim control of Jewish and Christian holy sites will bring an entirely different circumstance. When Muslims control Jewish and Christian holy sites, these sites face severe restrictions or prohibitions on non-Muslim visitation – and, worse yet, potential wholesale destruction of historical artifacts that contradict Mohammed’s Muslim narrative.

6. 3. Currently, the women and children in Israel have recourse to civil law that trumps Sharia Law. If the world cedes Israel to Muslims, all women and children who continue to live in the area will immediately be subjugated as being less equal than men under barbaric Sharia Law.

   4. Israel is a legitimate country existing under a peacefully and lawfully negotiated agreement. If Muslims are able to use specious claims and unremitting violence to renegotiate international borders, then no country is safe from being claimed by the ummah. But, Sudan knows that already. It does seem a shame when one part of a country must secede in order to attempt to escape from a minority of violent Muslims practicing Sharia Law.

   5. Israel recently discovered significant energy reserves that the Muslim world is intent to appropriate for its own purposes. As Saudi Arabia has illustrated, Muslims use their oil money to establish violent mosques and madrassas around the world instead of increasing the standard of living of their poor citizens – with the ultimate irony being that then Muslims leaders inevitably and falsely attribute all Muslim violence to poverty instead of the Islamic-mandated violence called jihad that is inculcated into poor, middle class, and rich Muslims alike from birth.

7. I can understand how hailtoyou feels.

   My logic is a bit different, though.

   Europe was a very troubled place with a large Jewish population.

   Once, unfortunately for Jews, Europe’s Jewish population was significantly decreased, both by war and by migration to the U.S. and Israel, then Europe began to become more stable.

   Russia calmed down quite a bit once a large number of Russian Jews had migrated to the U.S. and Israel.

   Many Jews reading this comment will not appreciate it.

   However, I am of Germanic descent, so I have a different point of view.

   If Israel succumbs to Islam, and violence breaks out, then Israeli Jews would likely migrate back to Europe, or to the U.S.

   I would much rather have Jews in Israel, away from both Europe and the U.S.

   If Israeli Jews took refuge in Europe, it is possible that the old anti-Jewish sentiment could develop again, especially as many of those Israeli Jews would be leftist and hostile to Germans.

   If Israeli Jews took refuge in the U.S., then there will only be more political tension in the U.S.

   There are already a lot of U.S. citizens who do not like the large amount of government influence that Jews have in the U.S.

   If the U.S. had to absorb all the Jews in Israel, then the Jewish population in the U.S. would nearly double.

   That would just increase anti-Jewish sentiment in the U.S.

   I think it is better for everybody for Jews to have their own space.

   In fact, it is my personal feeling that it would be nice if all Jews in the world would move to Israel. That would double Israel’s population. This would strengthen their national position in Palestine relative to the way it is now.

   Of course, the Palestinians would then likely get pushed out of the Left Bank altogether, unless Israel built up, rather than out.

   However, this would drain a lot of the Left out of the U.S., because a lot of U.S. Jews are leftists. A giant chunk of Democrats would suddenly be gone. Then the U.S. would trend more conservative.

   And with fewer Jews in the U.S. incessantly demanding that the U.S. immigration levels be as high as possible, we Europid folks here in the U.S. could finally shut down immigration altogether, or at least to a reasonable level.

   Europe and the U.S. would then be much less “diverse”…and, possibly, much happier and more united.

8. HC Strache needs to have a website in English like Gert Wilders and a page that clearly shows his positions on the issues of multiculturalism and Europe in general in print. Although I understand some Austrian it isn’t enough to translate for myself instead of depending on a translator.

   An issue that comes up frequently on this site are the comments that paint anyone secular or on the Left as anti-Israel or pro-Islam. This is gross misconception. As a European I’m a Left-winger who votes for Gert Wilders and generally takes a pro-Israeli stance – and I am not the only Lefty who is this way. Most of us understand that tolerance, here and in America, must work both ways, and foreigners are expected to integrate into European society, not create enclaves. If not, Muslims or anyone else, may return to where they came from.

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