Why Are You Going to the Germans?

Last week a documentary was shown on German TV about the plight of German students who are now a minority in their own school. The following review of “War in the Classroom” appeared in Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung before the film was aired. The documentary itself may be found at the ARD website (in German).

Many thanks to JLH for the translation:

Why Are You Going to the Germans?

July 21, 2010

ARD today is showing a portrait of a parallel world: a school where Germans are a minority, where it is tough every day in the schoolyard, and teachers faced with stubborn prejudices resign.

by Regina Mönch

Everything used to be different, even in the schools. That reverberates in the notable film by Nicola Graf and Güner Y. Balci. Nobody says everything was better in Essen-Karnap then, almost three decades ago, when Brigitta Holford became a teacher at the local secondary school. Right at the start, she tells what was different: she liked teaching so much. Her German and Turkish students were a community; there were many friendships. At some point, the Germans began to draw away. At some point, they became the minority in the classroom, and since then things have been difficult in the schoolyard and in teaching.

Brigitte Holford still has these good-natured eyes. She always tries her hardest to give her students the best start in life, but it is immediately apparent that it is a losing battle. In intensive conversations over a long period of time, the two cinematic authors are able to show the difficult situation the students and faculty are in. It is the story of a manifested intolerance which defies all attempts by teachers to crack it.

Brutal Beatings and Insults are Everyday Events

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The majority decides who is beaten up and what is customary. During Ramadan, Germans see their soup being spit into, and whoever objects is awaited by all the brothers and cousins at the school entrance. The Turkish and Arab girls stand on one side of the schoolyard and the boys on the other. The few Germans squeeze into a corner as if they were not a part of any of it. “We keep ourselves to ourselves,” says a girl; it is the only way to survive. They tell of brutal beatings and about insults — the more harmless ones are “dweeb” and “Germans always cheat.” “Nazis” and “sluts” are meant more seriously: they refer to ways of behaving that are natural in this country — having your own opinion and the equal relationship between boys and girls.

The inhibited way in which Muslim boys in the school speak of sexuality peaks again and again in nasty insults and grotesque prejudices, in a contempt that seems to include everything German. Teachers like Brigitta Holford try repeatedly to break through. Her 10b is an unusual class at this school. Nearly all of them intend to graduate and have a good chance of doing so. A friendship like that between Shirin and Anastasia is the exception; is considered unsuitable. One of the girls was born in Germany of Lebanese parents; the other came from the Soviet Union. Shirin must constantly justify herself to the other Lebanese students. “What are you doing, going with the Germans?” they ask, and demand an end to the alliance. Stress in the family, says the forceful Shirin, has abated. It had existed because fraternization with the society that took them in, with the Germans, is apparently considered unseemly.

“Eventually, We Have to Talk Openly about It”

In one class lesson, there is an argument about how they are going to live after finishing school. Three Arab girls talk openly about being married and how good it would be if their fathers found nice men for them. “One who doesn’t beat me.” Afterwards, they are scolded. You don’t give away your secrets. The boys think that girls here in Germany have too much freedom. Another confides that he hates the way they dress. Another speaks of honor and respect — two concepts he is not able to explain in words. Culture war in the classroom. The Lebanese teacher of Arabic does his best to make his students friendlier to the idea of living together and to the advantages of German society. But the parents complain: he should not meddle with “internal affairs.”

“We are horrified at how it is becoming more and more intense,” says Brigitta Holford. She has had to learn to defend her profession as an educator from indignant uncles, fathers, brothers. Not every teacher has the strength to do that. Nicola Graf and Güner Balci have succeeded in creating an unusual portrait of a parallel world that is growing before our eyes and can only be countered by what the teacher recommends: “Eventually we have to talk about it.”

WAR IN THE CLASSROOM airs tonight at 12:15.

13 thoughts on “Why Are You Going to the Germans?

  1. “We are horrified at how it is becoming more and more intense,”

    Says Brigitta Holford, veteran of the jihad that has been growing around her empty headed self for three decades. Now in a state of despair and total confusion she remains in a state of oblivion.

    “Eventually we have to talk about it.” she concludes.

    Ah yes. Talk. The tried and untrue leftist solution to everything.

    Talk, talk, talk. Lick boots, talk, lick spittle. Talk, talk talk.

    There, that should fix things.

    It hasn’t? why not?

    I am certain that to this day, Brigitta Holford has never, ever ever thought of delving into those hate filled screeds, the koran, the hadiths and the life of Islam’s so called prophet, to try to find out what inspires the Muslims in her class to think and act the way they do.

    But I cannot hate her too much. She’s no more deaf, dumb, blind and stupid than the politicians who misgovern and misrule the elective oligarchies of Europe and North America.

  2. My solution to this is simple enough:
    Expel the Muslim students.
    They have no business being there.
    They should have been expelled with the first five incidents.
    But this is what Muslim communities do. They can never extricate themselves from the violence of their words and deeds.

  3. As I said a million times before, the problem isn’t what the Muslims do in Germany, the problem is that they’re there to begin with. And considering how spineless German men are on average, I don’t see why the Muslims wouldn’t act like this. And I feel like throwing up each time people romanticize how things were three decades ago when everybody got along.

    I wonder what kind of a woman can have any respect for a man that is having his soup spitted into. Or a man that is ok with his children going through that. This is far more revolting than what the Muslims do. We had some problems in my country too and we just hired a private security company to guard the school. The German parents should do the same – hire bodyguards for the German children.

    Oh, and I wonder how many of these kids still believe how it would be fair to throw non Germans out of Germany. Probably most of them.

  4. Granted, I couldn’t read the whole thing because I found it so annoying…
    What the hell has happened in the west that we allow such upheaval in our classrooms?
    When I was in 10th grade the school ring of my instructor landed on my head because I was sleeping! I never slept in his class again! And I actually learned something!
    I don’t really know what to say; the entire education establishment has gone so totally over the top that it is hard to comment.

  5. @ rebelliousvanilla

    Although there are some points you mentioned regarding german men which I can´t fully denie you simply don´t have a clue or overview. I see it as extremly unfair what you are saying about german men.
    I bet you neither can speak any word in german nor you have ever been there. Who do you think you are actually? Sounds like a fascist or communist feminist to me who grew up with a golden spown in her mouth.

    I grew up in Berlin,
    I am have seen the situation by my own eyes and it is simply a fact that if you showing spine your are extremly in danger to face reprisals from the local police, criminal gangs or judges. Because the thing is led from the top (Government, EU etc.) THe federal republic of Germany is a rotten criminal organization which keeps the german people as a tax-cattle-hostage. They are idologicaly driven criminals such as the whole EU crowd or the NAZIs were. Do something against this as a german man or woman with spine and your are the bad NAZI who is in extrem danger to be sued or worse. Best example from recent times is the
    (self)-murder 😉 from the judge (Kirstin Heisig) who fought this situation in schools. She published a book which is already sold out.
    The german state prosecutors are not free such as in the US or France, they are bound to instructions from the politics.
    And if the politics is against german men or women with spine they are without chance no matter how much courage there is. These are old rules from the time of Hitler which were never canceld. This country not even has a own constitution. And that is the case since 1990. You all can check this easily by reading § 146 of the old GRUNDGESETZ in Germany which is sold to the world as the german constituion but which was written by an US-General after WW2.

    The FDR is not representing the german people it is fighting the own population (since 20 years at least). Are you really that naive to think that the police, secret services, goverments (incl. locals) don´t have a clue about the ongoing in schools for example. They know everthing because its their show of the genozid of the german people in front of the whole world.

    And what I simply don´t get neither are statements like from this flitches:

    “Oh, and I wonder how many of these kids still believe how it would be fair to throw non Germans out of Germany. Probably most of them.”

    @ rebelliousvanilla that you don´t have a clue about germans becomes very obvious at this point and your way of generalisation shows me that you probbably have a bias to totalitarian thinking right?.

    After a while of studying the situation I see it like the FRGermany is everthing except a country to life in as a free common man with german origin. The stupid criminals rule here but because of the wealth which was here until the end of the 90´s, structures were not that obvious.

    Now they are more and more every singel F**** day and maybe there is still the chance to overcome this shock and then you can see how spineless german men and women are.

    But I bet you would be then one of these people who would condemn them
    for showing courage and would probbably say: “UUUUUUUUUUUHH, look at these aggressive germans how aweful they are.” Am I right 😉

    Sorry for my bad english

  6. babs, when I was in elementary school, the teacher hit my hands with a wooden ruler if I was naughty. Needless to say, my naughtiness went down dramatically after that.

    tpr.timo, I agree that I am harsh. And as someone who lives in a former Soviet satellite and who has relatives burried in unmarked graves or who did hard years of forced labour or jail and never found quality employment again, I know what repraisals are. My father didn’t get promoted because he had an unclean record sheet, for example. I do know something though – if you are afraid, you won’t only lose a fight, but you will lose your soul as a person. And yes, I’m sure it is hard to be strong as a German considering you had your women raped, your country split in two and your people starved as a matter of policy, while being kicked out of every other country in Europe where you were. But eventually, you will need to stand up for yourself. You can still do it and things progressed to this point, they weren’t always like this.

    Also, while I don’t speak German, I’m part German and I have close relatives who could claim German citizenship on ethnic grounds and they’d get me as family reunification. So I’m not that far from it. While I’m not a fascist(which sort of became the thing to call people in PC world), I really take offense on being slandered with the communist or feminist, considering that I have a lot of relatives who either volunteered in a war when they were teenagers to fight the former and that I hate both of them. And I was hardly born with a spoon in my mouth. I know what it means to not have a washing machine and wash your clothing by hand or to have warm water only in the morning. Besides costin, Armance and a few others, I doubt that many bloggers here know what it means to be there. Maybe Baron does too, but that’s about it.

    I travelled quite a bit though and while I haven’t been to Germany, I’ve met quite a large number of German men – and most of them apologized for their existence. I didn’t write that message to mock you, I wrote it because it hurts me to see this state of affairs.

    Still, you really think it is that hard to overthrow your government? Or even make a party and all vote for it, if that’s the case? My country didn’t have the second option, you do. The former isn’t that hard to do if you have the will. If most German men with spine saw their own government as a criminal enterprize that hurts the German people, they should act in that regard.

    Still, I can tell you for sure that as a woman, if my child was treated like that, I’d do everything to change it, even if it gets me to jail. And I wouldn’t condemn Germans for doing something. I’d actually support them.

  7. babs, when I was in elementary school, the teacher hit my hands with a wooden ruler if I was naughty. Needless to say, my naughtiness went down dramatically after that.

    tpr.timo, I agree that I am harsh. And as someone who lives in a former Soviet satellite and who has relatives burried in unmarked graves or who did hard years of forced labour or jail and never found quality employment again, I know what repraisals are. My father didn’t get promoted because he had an unclean record sheet, for example. I do know something though – if you are afraid, you won’t only lose a fight, but you will lose your soul as a person. And yes, I’m sure it is hard to be strong as a German considering you had your women raped, your country split in two and your people starved as a matter of policy, while being kicked out of every other country in Europe where you were. But eventually, you will need to stand up for yourself. You can still do it and things progressed to this point, they weren’t always like this.

    Also, while I don’t speak German, I’m part German and I have close relatives who could claim German citizenship on ethnic grounds and they’d get me as family reunification. So I’m not that far from it. While I’m not a fascist(which sort of became the thing to call people in PC world), I really take offense on being slandered with the communist or feminist, considering that I have a lot of relatives who either volunteered in a war when they were teenagers to fight the former and that I hate both of them. And I was hardly born with a spoon in my mouth. I know what it means to not have a washing machine and wash your clothing by hand or to have warm water only in the morning. Besides costin, Armance and a few others, I doubt that many bloggers here know what it means to be there. Maybe Baron does too, but that’s about it.

    I travelled quite a bit though and while I haven’t been to Germany, I’ve met quite a large number of German men – and most of them apologized for their existence. I didn’t write that message to mock you, I wrote it because it hurts me to see this state of affairs.

    Still, you really think it is that hard to overthrow your government? Or even make a party and all vote for it, if that’s the case? My country didn’t have the second option, you do. The former isn’t that hard to do if you have the will. If most German men with spine saw their own government as a criminal enterprize that hurts the German people, they should act in that regard.

    Still, I can tell you for sure that as a woman, if my child was treated like that, I’d do everything to change it, even if it gets me to jail. And I wouldn’t condemn Germans for doing something. I’d actually support them.

  8. babs, when I was in elementary school, the teacher hit my hands with a wooden ruler if I was naughty. Needless to say, my naughtiness went down dramatically after that.

    tpr.timo, I agree that I am harsh. And as someone who lives in a former Soviet satellite and who has relatives burried in unmarked graves or who did hard years of forced labour or jail and never found quality employment again, I know what repraisals are. My father didn’t get promoted because he had an unclean record sheet, for example. I do know something though – if you are afraid, you won’t only lose a fight, but you will lose your soul as a person. And yes, I’m sure it is hard to be strong as a German considering you had your women raped, your country split in two and your people starved as a matter of policy, while being kicked out of every other country in Europe where you were. But eventually, you will need to stand up for yourself. You can still do it and things progressed to this point, they weren’t always like this.

    Also, while I don’t speak German, I’m part German and I have close relatives who could claim German citizenship on ethnic grounds and they’d get me as family reunification. So I’m not that far from it. While I’m not a fascist(which sort of became the thing to call people in PC world), I really take offense on being slandered with the communist or feminist, considering that I have a lot of relatives who either volunteered in a war when they were teenagers to fight the former and that I hate both of them. And I was hardly born with a spoon in my mouth. I know what it means to not have a washing machine and wash your clothing by hand or to have warm water only in the morning. Besides costin, Armance and a few others, I doubt that many bloggers here know what it means to be there. Maybe Baron does too, but that’s about it.

    I travelled quite a bit though and while I haven’t been to Germany, I’ve met quite a large number of German men – and most of them apologized for their existence. I didn’t write that message to mock you, I wrote it because it hurts me to see this state of affairs.

    Still, you really think it is that hard to overthrow your government? Or even make a party and all vote for it, if that’s the case? My country didn’t have the second option, you do. The former isn’t that hard to do if you have the will. If most German men with spine saw their own government as a criminal enterprize that hurts the German people, they should act in that regard.

    Still, I can tell you for sure that as a woman, if my child was treated like that, I’d do everything to change it, even if it gets me to jail. And I wouldn’t condemn Germans for doing something. I’d actually support them.

  9. @rebelliousvanilla

    Like I said at the beginning regarding things like:

    ” I’ve met quite a large number of German men – and most of them apologized for their existence.”

    If this is the case I don´t have a real explanation for this neither, except MAYBE that they are probbably indoctrinated (e.g. by school, you are the bad bad Nazi go and kill yourself because of something what took place before you were born or just check out the media around the world, it is very easy to find a programm on TV which makes the germans look bad even in 2010, just give me one other example with another people where this is the case since 60 years with such a collective guilt campaign against them, No Japan, No Russia, No US, etc.) and intimidated by this criminal situation since they were little boys.

    I am guessing here for reasons but this could be maybe a psychological reason for these guys, who knows for sure?

    “And I wouldn’t condemn Germans for doing something. I’d actually support them.”

    Yeah, maybe you would but I really can imagine how it would look like in the news around the world when german people would go for a revolution now or the last maybe 15 years:

    —breaking news—–
    German anti-democratic Nazi movements overthrowed “first and only working demokratic” german state. State leaders incl. UN (e.g. from Poland, Turkey, USA and France) around the world are shocked and promised immediately to send endless troops to crash this “anti”-democratic “evil” uprising from the population which maybe wants to establish a new german world empire. end
    ———-breaking news——-

    Listen,one of the reasons for the creation of the NATO was to keep the germans literally down. Offically said by an US-general decades ago. Easy to find for everyone who looks for it. There are movements now, but at the moment they are getting bullied by the media and the establishment (PRO Movements).

    Not only our people are brainwashed
    and misinformed by their government. So are others the same way.

    “Still, I can tell you for sure that as a woman, if my child was treated like that, I’d do everything to change it, even if it gets me to jail”.

    Ok, agree and I hope the majority of german and other european parents think like that too.
    But reality maybe says that this is maybe not the case, and that is when I am really getting confused too.

    best wishes

  10. Chaco, I agree, the demonization of Germans has a part in this. And I do know about NATO. It’s funny, but this hatred of Germans is the source of the hatred of white people overall. Same with the German guilt and white guilt. As I come from another nation with a crushed spirit due to communism, I can tell you that what the Allies did is probably the way to crush the soul of people. But eventually, things must change.

  11. @rebelliousvanilla

    I know. Maybe better soon, or this generation of europeans is in deep s**** in the coming years.

    I don´t want to spread useless rumors around,
    but look at these theories in these presentations and maybe you can led me know what you think about this.

    Check out Walter Veith Videos for instance:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB1c2tVE8FA

    He is a protestant Christian and his presentations are awesome.
    He knows german as well and gives presetations in german and english.

    I didn´t see all english p. but the german parts are full with unbelievable informations. And much more other topics. Not even during my study years I found that much interesting infos (even about Islam which would make a lot of discussions here useless).

    To make it short:

    FOR HIM the Jesuits for example are behind Freemasons etc.

    Let me know what you think,if you have time.

    sorry if I offended you anywhere in
    my other posts.

    best wishes

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