I love the European conservative blogs. They give me hope that all is not lost or dying there. Today, a visit on our site meter led me here.
Snouck (is that a Dutch word?) has many interests, not the least of which is the rampant damage being done to his country by the collectivist welfare system. In his leading post, he discusses the fraudulent uses to which it is put by the immigrants and their low level of participation in the economy:
|[A]while ago I heard in a tram two Moroccan girls discussing how smart their father was. Father received 75 percent from the money he used to earn as a worker in a logistics centre. The benefit was granted because of health problems that made it impossible for him to work in his old job. But he was offered other jobs now and he was dodging those jobs because he did not want to work.|
|Shortly thereafter I encountered two Moroccans who disappeared from their jobs. Really young chaps, in their mid-twenties, who had been working for less than 5 years. Both were receiving benefits for “health problems”. One of the employers bluntly told me that he had seen it happening with quite a few Moroccans in his employ. He thought that they were scamming the system and know how to get doctor’s certificates.|
|All in all the work participation rate of Moslims is very low. Something like 50 percent.|
That is leech level, and leeches is what Snouck calls people who don’t work. The ones who are employed he terms the “woodchoppers,” citing the old German saying (also the old redneck saying around here):
|Germanic values tell us: “Go chop wood for the fire, and you will get warm two times, once from work, and once from burning the logs. Odinsstrength, this land is cold!”|
His thesis is that the cause is Islam itself, with its long history of pillage:
|Islam teaches the faithful that the way to riches is robbing other groups and gaining jeyza taxes from Dhimmis and war booty. Labour is not appreciated as a way of gaining an income. The problem for Muslims is of course that it does not work anymore once a county becomes majority Muslim. Then they have to stand on their own feet or become vampires sucking from vampires.|
I know educated Muslims, and I know Muslims who own their own businesses and work hard. The cases I do know, however, involve secular Muslims, so that may be the difference. Steep yourself too deeply in Mohammed’s angry, defensive brutality and you begin to think the world owes you… on the other hand, I’ve known regular old Americans who have that same chip on their shoulder…
In other words, it’s a character disorder — I must ask Shrinkwrapped and Dr. Sanity to diagnose it more precisely — that can occur anywhere. One only has to read British psychiatrist Theodore Dalrymple to know how frequently it occurs in Britain, and not just with immigrant populations. The malaise he describes is soul-deep and has been brought on by a Utopian system that gives without demanding — as much of Europe does now.
Hmmm… that sounds an awful lot like a mother/child situation when it gets off track. Dads, on the other hand, tend to be less… less — perhaps the word is lenient? or accommodating? — with their offspring, and more inclined to make sure the kid can stand on his own as an adult.
In another post, Snouck reports the complaints of a Belgian politician who doesn’t like the strictness of the Netherlands’ laws regarding the importation of foreigners for the purpose of marriage. To get around the law, immigrants from the Netherlands move over to Belgium for a bit, send for the spouse-to-be and once married, move back “home” — i.e., back to their Dutch city or region:
|Some background on these marriages: every summer ninety percent of Dutch Muslims go back to the countries of origin. They meet family there and have lots of parties. During the frolicking the heads of families arrange marriages between youngsters of families. A marriage contract with a Muslim with a residence permit or a citizenship of a EU country is worth up to 30.000 Euros or Dollars above the sum for a normal marriages. This shows the huge economic net worth of EU citizenship for immigrants, financed by transfer payments by EU taxpayers.|
|The marriages are a form of institutionalised nepotism to the financial and national detriment of the Dutch individual and nation.|
The complaining Belgian thinks the Netherlands needs to get in line with the rest of the EU. Snouck doesn’t agree:
|People are waking up to the nightmare of the EU. During referenda on the EU constitution in 2005 more than 60 percent of French and almost 70 percent of Dutch voters voted against additional powers for the EU.|
In line with this blogger’s recommendation re the EU, I also endorse regular reading of The Brussels Journal. They give me hope for Europe, too.
Who knows if Snouck and Co. will succeed? This is the country of the Dutch girl who held back the water with just one finger. Such a country will not go gentle into that dhimmified night.
It is heartening to know they are raging against the dying of the light.
Clearly many of the immigrants to Europe have lower intelligence levels than the average European. Life in a modern society can be complex and very taxing on the mind (and the pay check). The unintelligent worker who lacks ambition may find the seduction of welfare benefits too much to resist. Why work?
Welfare societies may be fine for intelligent people with traditions of hard work in modern complex societies. Perhaps outsiders with lesser intelligence cannot cope, and become additional tax burden.
I’d say the recent immigrants have sized up the situation quite shrewdly, and have concluded the Euro feedbag works best when firmly strapped to the face.
It is the remaining working Europeans who are acting irrationally. Out of nostalgia, or subborness, they are continuing to supply the venture capital for the socialist uberstate which even now works to consume them, the downfall accellerated by the welfare cheques which keep the invaders quiet, and their breeder-wives fat and fecund.
Snouck Hurgronje was a Dutch scholar of Islam. Check here and here
He used to write on Fjordman’s blog. Here is how you would search for his comments. Cut and paste the next line into google
“snouck said” site:fjordman.blogspot.com
In Europe this question will get tangled into questions of race/language etc. In India we have the same race, same language, etc. and the differences are quite visible.
Hindus/Sikhs and Muslims went to Britain in the 1950-60’s from similar backgrounds and from what I hear the differences are quite visible.
If I had to guess – yes the problem is a religion which constantly feeds you BS about how you are entitled to everything and the complete absence of role models to look up to. There is one more very important factor – the Islamic religion has always been completely hostile to books and learning (with some honorable exceptions) and the present world is a knowledge based economy. This in itself would not matter much but for the fact the the religion actively discourages change.
“he used to write” – I mean the blogger not the original scholar:)
Europe became in effect borderless and immigration controls do not apply to EU citizens. One of the biggest problem we face in Britain is benefit fraud. Particularly from Dutch Somalis who have multiple identities in Britain and Holland. Invariably they also have large families. They troll back and forth between Britain and Holland collecting their money. If the authorities try to stop them they are called racist.
I guess the link is too long to be pasted into a comment here, but the headline is: “Israel urges ultra-Orthodox Jews to work”. You get the idea.
panther33‘s comment messed up the post width so I have redone his link.
At the top of every comments section is a template for making links that everybody can use.
Here’s what he said:
It’s worth noting that Ultra-Orthodox Jews in Israel aren’t inclined to work much either. Too preoccupied with studying the Talmud, apparently.
I am a bit late to make these comments.
Firstly I want to thank IK for introducing me, and tracking my posts. Snouck Hurgronje was indeed a Dutch scholar of Islam in the period of Dutch colonial rule of Indonesia, home to the biggest Islamic population in the world.
Secondly, a minor point…. The end of the post by Dymphna mentions a Dutch girl saving her community by keeping her finger in a Dutch Dyke.
This is the story of Hansje Brinkers, a boy. And it is an American story not a Dutch story. This story has never been told in The Netherlands, nor is it very realistic. If a dyke is cracking even putting a whole body in it is not going to make a difference. Dykes are forever leaking anyway that is why the Dutch built windmills and powered water mills to regulate the water level.
The origin of the story of the boy with the finger in the dyke is an American childrens book, published somewhere in the late 19th century.
My apologies for demystifying what is an quaint and attractive story.
I knew the story was a myth, but didn’t know it was an *American* myth. That makes it even better, especially when you consider how many references to the Dutch are put-downs (mostly inherited from the English) — as in “Dutch treat.”