Our British correspondent JP sends a selection of comments from The Telegraph, and includes this note about the material he has chosen:
This is a batch of comments from two Telegraph blog entries, one about imposition of British values on the recently arrived, and the other about the Trojan Horse controversy. There are some thoughtful and highly Islamo-critical comments, including a couple discussing Tommy Robinson’s recent release and the conditions attached.
What is interesting about some of the comments is that they are not immediately removed by zealous, sharia-compliant moderators.
I have added one word [hand] in square brackets to the comment by “lightindesert”. Apart from that, they are all as originally posted.
Perhaps the mood of the ‘meeting’ might be summarised as:
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Islam is anathema to our way of life and has to be dealt with at some point. |
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British values exist, but it is futile to impose them on communities that despise them. |
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Craven Quisling canting hypocrisy is a value clung to dearly by our leaders. |
Don’t ‘teach’ British values — demand them
by Janet Daley
We must insist that ethnic communities change their habits and expectations in order to become active participants in their new homeland
US presidents may address their people as “my fellow Americans”. French national leaders can open their speeches with an appeal to the “men and women of France”. Try to picture a British prime minister saying something of the kind and it will probably make you laugh…
[Reader comment by Mike on 14 June 2014]
Ok what the hell is going on?
Up until about a month ago this sort of article would NEVER have been viewed as acceptable, it smacks of being anti muslim, therefore islamphobic, therefore racist!
But all of a sudden our newly liberated press are extolling the virtues of being British and almost demanding that those who arrive on our shores should integrate, what next, acceptance that we, being British even actually exist?
there seems to be a dramatic change in the air, but is it to do with newly found press freedom, or maybe the fact the telegraph has seen a massive drop in subscriptions, or is it the rise of UKIP?
Forgive my cynicism but having not seen this sort of change and these sorts of articles for so long I am somewhat suspicious!
[Reader comment by rogermurrayclark on 15 June 2014]
EDL leader Tommy Robinson has just been released from prison.
It might be recalled that he was jailed for mortgage “fraud” ie he put up a deposit for a relative and signed an income declaration which exaggerated the relative’s income; pretty heinous stuff obviously — and were this to be applied generally hundreds of thousands would have been prosecuted, And as for Fred Goodwin and the rest, what happened to the criminal prosecutions there?
Anyway he was sentenced to 18 months, so if he had not been released early he would have been incarcerated till July 2015.
But conditions entirely unrelated to the mortgage fraud conviction have been imposed, breach of which means a return to prison eg “NO person(s) who are involved with the EDL may contact him, directly or indirectly”
What’s this to do with mortgage fraud?
So this was a political prosecution and trial from the outset.
How does this accord with the spirit of Magna Carta and “British Values”?
[Reply to rogermurrayclark by jollyjamba on 15 June 2014]
On a BBC political programme that operated a phone in on the issues discussed, 96% of those phoning in supported the statement that the EDL spoke for them.
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