The Ascendancy of the InterNazis

The Antifas or “anti-fascists” were all but unknown to Americans until after the election of Donald Trump four years ago. In the fall and winter of 2016-2017 they appeared in “black bloc” gear on the streets of American cities like Minerva bursting full-grown from the head of Zeus. In the ensuing years they have continued to ravage public spaces across the country, and have joined forces with Black Lives Matter to the point that the shock troops of the two groups are all but indistinguishable.

Because I specialize in European issues, I had long been familiar with Antifa (and their closely-related cousins, the Autonomer in Denmark and Unite Against Fascism [UAF] in the UK). Back in 2007 and 2008, when I was first researching the groups, I spent a long time tracking down their websites in various Western countries. The Antifas seemed to have their greatest presence in Belgium, the Netherlands, Sweden, and Germany. They were also to be found in other Western European countries, with the exception of Britain, which had the UAF instead.

When I looked for an American franchise of Antifa, I discovered that it was vestigial — there was almost no Antifa presence in the USA. Violent far-left activism was left to other Marxist groups, such as International A.N.S.W.E.R. Antifa per se was virtually non-existent in the USA.

How times have changed!

And they changed suddenly, just after November 8, 2016. Someone turned on the spigots and the money started to flow to the black bloc groups all over the country. The black and red flags on their banners became a familiar sight on television news reports. Their customary paraphernalia — rocks, iron bars, baseball bats, and heavy-duty fireworks — could be seen in videos recorded on the streets of major cities with buildings and vehicles burning in the background.

The same sort of sight had long been familiar in Western Europe. More than twelve years ago El Inglés and our Flemish correspondent VH did extensive research on the European Antifas. Relevant excerpts from two posts, originally published in September and October of 2008, are reproduced below.

From “The InterNazis”, September 26, 2008

The excluded portions of this post were topical to the news of that time, but still make for interesting reading. See the original for the full text.

The term “Nazi” is an abbreviation of the German-language version of the phrase “National Socialist”, and referred to the totalitarian socialist ideology which arose in Germany during the 1920s and 1930s. The modifier “National” was applied to “Socialist” in order to distinguish Hitler’s brand of Socialism from Communism, which was “international Socialism”, as represented by the Comintern and directed by Stalin. The Nazis were very much Socialists, but wanted nothing to do with the vile cosmopolitan Bolshevik version of Socialism, which Hitler considered an alien Jewish ideology, unfit for his vision of the Aryan future.

Nazism was destroyed by the Allies in 1945, and Communism crumbled of its own weight in 1991. But International Socialism did not die. By the 1970s it had spread throughout the institutions of the Free World like a metastasized cancer in the body politic of Western Civilization.


In 21st-century Europe, InterNazis can be found most frequently in the various chapters of Antifa, also known as Anti-fascist Action (with variants in several languages) or AFA. The affinity of Antifa for the Nazi ideology and iconography can be observed in the logos [above].

The stylized “A” in the middle symbol is a common logo for the Anarchists, of which the Antifas form a particularly virulent branch. The right-hand symbol with its lightning-bolt “A” is from the 1930s. It was used by the Nazis to represent the Sturmabteilung, the Storm Troopers, also known as the Brown Shirts. These were Hitler’s bully-boys, the high-spirited lads who took to the streets to beat up Communists, Jews, free-thinkers, and anyone else considered to be an enemy of the German people.

Is the resemblance of the SA symbol to the Antifa logo a coincidence? I have no idea, but it’s a fitting emblem for the thugs who beat up the Jews and little old ladies who came to Cologne last weekend to protest Islamization.

What bears the most striking resemblance to the methodology of the Storm Troopers is the symbiosis among the Antifa groups, the police, and local officials. The Autonomer are performing an identical function to that of the Sturmabteilung: they carry out illegal political violence on behalf of a totalitarian state which deems itself to be beyond the rule of law.

In this they also closely resemble the Comités de Defensa de la Revolución, the “Committees for the Defense of the Revolution”, a communist institution established in Castro’s Cuba. The Committees are allegedly “spontaneous” manifestations of popular outrage against the enemies of Socialism, and are employed to harass and intimidate any dissidents who dare to question the regime.

Unlike the Storm Troopers of 1930s Germany, the Antifas are international, and represent an ideology that explicitly seeks the destruction of the nation-state and the abolition of national identity. Their mission is to deconstruct the nations of Europe so that Socialist Multiculturalism may be implemented with a minimum of resistance.

Our Flemish correspondent VH has been thinking about these things, and he’s also been doing what I’d like to do, but don’t have time for: researching the European Antifas and all their ideological cousins. He sent me an email yesterday with an overview of the situation, and with his kind permission I am posting it below:


I share your interest in the Militant Left. Every now and then I dive into their agitprop, hoping to find a key to echo it back to them, but most of all to their potential recruits: the brainwashed adolescents and the ignorant Leftist enablers of Arabization.

A few notes:

There maybe were no more than a thousand or at most a few thousand counter-demonstrators in Cologne, maybe half of them Blackhoods, the rest ignorant Gutmenschen. They had a schedule; they practiced blockades way in advance, gave AFA training (never give your name!), sabotaged transport, moved around like regiments, used sympathizers in media-sensitive front lines, and only needed a few strategic locations and some pin-pointed violence to achieve the optimal effect.

Part of their success, I think, was the help of the Mayor. He didn’t kick them out of the city, but let them attack the Rhine-vessel, blockade bridges, and maneuver though the city to provoke blockades by the Police (after which only a handful demonstrators would be necessary to hold them). Also: The most important sound bites that made the paper were his.

I had a look at Dutch and Flemish Militant Leftist web sites and only found a few buses going out to Cologne. There was no mention at all of a significant amount of recruits/demonstrators. Add to that the possibility of some French AFA buses (Cologne is not too far from the French border), and the international contribution was maybe a few hundred Blackhoods. But motivated and well trained Blackhoods. And a command line with an awful lot of practice.

The Hard Left is still quite dominant in politics because there is no massive (virtual or physical) resistance to Socialist Totalitarians. This is partly due to their over representation in the bureaucracy, the media, and even the judiciary, but it is also due to the fraudulent teaching of history, the use of euphemisms, giving words opposite meanings, and demagogic tricks.

Please find below a selection of some basis info I gathered on Antifa NL and BE, and the organization of “Cologne”. Maybe somewhere something might be of use.

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A few notes on Antifa Netherlands

Dutch anti-fascists to Cologne: I estimate maybe ca. 100.

Antifa Netherlands was founded in 1992 by Militant leftist squatters and works with Kafka [Kollektief Anti Fascistisch/Kapitalistisch Archief, founded in 1997 by — amongst others — former “peace” activists Bronkhorst and Eissens]. Kafka is a group that also derived from the Militant Leftist squatter-scene and sometimes is used by the government to make reports for them.

Note: UK — Searchlight:

International contacts are with — amongst the usual Anti Fascists — the British (Hard-line Communist) Searchlight (in their network is the Anti-Nazi League, a gang of violent Antifa thugs under command of the Trotskyite Socialist Workers Party, though they are not mentioned in the Links-list).

Searchlight members are suspected of racism, organizing violent demonstrations and being fascists.

Quote from Final Conflict: “Maybe the link between Searchlight and AFA can be explained by a letter in ‘Fighting Talk’ #5 (mid 1990’s?). The letter is from an ex-62 Group activist and is full of praise for AFA’s violence. Remember, the 62 Group was run from Harry Bidney’s Limbo Club. So the fan-club of Bidney, the pimp, homosexual paedophile and criminal grows… What a surprise! In recent times even AFA and Searchlight have “fallen out”, despite Gable sharing the dock with Red Action’s leader, Gary O’Shea, for violence, in May 1991, against a mainly elderly audience at a League of St George meeting with Jeffrey Hamm, one of Mosley’s right hand men. Nationalists were held by RA members and beaten and tortured during this incident, though (to escape prosecution) Gable claims to have helped Hamm and tried to stop the violence — and if you believe that, you’ll believe anything! It would seem that even Red Action/AFA have had just about enough of Searchlight’s lies and obvious links to the Secret State.”

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The main opponent of Antifa Netherlands is the NSA/ANS (National Socialist Action/Autonomous National Socialists). These were amongst the first to protest the release of Fitna while Antifa followed later because they hate Geert Wilders anyway. They both accuse each other being Fascists.

Dutch Socialist Weimar battles are most often between these two Leftist competitors: Antifa and NSA/ANS. When NSA/ANS organizes a rally or event, Antifa — which claims to aim for a non-violent Socialist, non-Racist, Feminist anti Capitalistic society — attacks it with baseball bats, knives, the works.

In The Netherlands, Socialists have a multi-pronged stake to their disposal:

The street: RaRa [a terrorist organization, dissolved — its assumed member Wijnand Duyvendak recently had to step down as a GreenLeft parliamentarian for involvement in political crime; Onkruit (sabotage group); Anti-Fascists, Anti-Fascist-Action (AFA or Antifa), Squatters (most of them Militant leftists); International Socialists.
The media: Almost the entire MSM including the government subsidized TV channels, TV background programs (NOVA, Netwerk) and TV News (NOS Journaal, NOS Jeugd [Youth] Journaal).
Politics: GreenLeft (merger of Pacifists, Radicals, Communists and Evangelical Leftists and Trotskyites), the PvdA (Labour party, over represented in the bureaucracy) and the SP (Socialist Party, started as a side-branch of the Maoist movement) and the PvdD (Party for the Animals).
The Judiciary: Lawyers (the bureau Jansen & Jansen was founded by leftist activists and squatters and had connections with the leftist terror group RaRa and Onkruit); Böhler Franken Koppe Wijngaarden (who defends leftist activists like the murderer of Fortuyn, Volkert van de Graaf, and recently they have been the defense lawyers of Nuon Chea of the Khmer Rouge in the Cambodia Tribunal); Judges (the Judge who sentenced Van de Graaf to a very forgiving and short jail time, Frans G. Bauduin, was a former leftist environmentalist, activist, later member of the PvdA and became a Judge in the Yugoslavia Tribunal in 2005); Law Researchers (Coornhert Liga).
The Education system: The University of Amsterdam (UvA, many appeasers have studied at the UvA), Erasmus University Rotterdam (EUR) and the Wageningen University are known for feeding the leftist Bureaucracy-machine, including politicians and subsidized activists.
The Leftist Foundations: Nederland Bekent Kleur (Netherlands Admits Color) of the radical Trotskyite René Danen; Anti-Racist/Anti-Discrimination bureaus like the Magenta Foundation (connected to NACH, the International Network Against Cyberhate, and the MDI (Muslim Discrimination Internet, changed to Monitor Discrimination Internet) — The most important persons here are Suzette Bronkhorst and Ronald Eissens [who once stated “The German People are the most efficiently murderous people in the world”]); Third World groups (NGOs); Animal rights groups, and hundreds of other leftist and immigrant foundations.
The immigrant foundations and advisory clubs.


From “The Blackhoods of Antifa”, October 4, 2008

I’ve written several times previously about Antifascist Action (a.k.a. AFA or Antifa, with name variants in several other European languages). It’s a loosely interconnected alliance of hard-left groups who use violence and intimidation against “racists” and “fascists”, i.e. anybody who opposes Leftist orthodoxy. In some countries the AFA brigades enjoy the tacit support of the police and local authorities in their actions.

Recent events in Cologne and Malmö have brought the “anti-fascists” into the limelight. El Inglés and our Flemish correspondent VH teamed up to do a little research into the black-hooded goons of Antifa. It El Inglés has gathered the results into a report, which is presented below.

The Blackhoods of Antifa
by El Inglés


As readers of this blog will all know by now, the recent anti-Islamization demonstration planned to take place in Cologne was disrupted by groups of blackhooded thugs. These thugs, whom I will refer to collectively as Antifa for the purposes of this brief preliminary discussion, are a force the size and strength of which it is extremely difficult to discern through casually scanning the news reports concerning the event. With the help of a great deal of valuable research done by VH, already a regular contributor at Gates of Vienna, I propose to start thinking slightly more rigorously about these far-left hoodlums in the hope that we might come up with some ideas as to what, if anything, should be done about them. This essay will not and cannot propose anything definite course of action or present any definite conclusions. It is no more than a speculative piece designed to foster and stimulate discussion amongst those who may be interested.

I will confess to a certain lack of interest in the taxonomy of the hard left. Communists, anarchists, revolutionary socialists, autonomer, ‘anti-fascists’: I neither know nor care what the exact differences may be between these various groups. Parsing this swarming bunch of criminals is an activity I will leave to those who both have the stomach for the task and consider it important to understand the ideological structure of, and fissures within, our self-elected street-level human rights enforcers.

Given that Antifa are clearly capable of putting aside their differences for long enough to engage in the occasional bout of civil unrest, for the duration of this piece I will treat them as the single group that they are sometimes able to form. However, for the purposes of this essay, I will ignore the occasional small-scale targeted action carried out by Antifa types, such as arson attacks on the homes of anti-immigration politicians or brutal assaults on anti-Islamization activists such as Anders Gravers, the head of SIAD. Though perpetrated by the same stripe of person, I think these criminal activities are sufficiently different from the mass action witnessed recently in Cologne to deserve an analysis of their own. Accordingly, I will concentrate on Antifa as a mass-action entity in this essay.

This discussion will be loosely structured around a series of key questions about Antifa that I will try provide some preliminary and speculative answers to below. They are as follows:

1)   How many of them are there across Western Europe and where are they located? I define an Antifa member here as being a core member of Antifa activity, concealing their identity with masks and hoods, and prepared to engage in violence against ideological opponents and/or the police and whatever other criminal activity they deem appropriate to their interests. Normal demonstrators do not count, however closely allied they may be with Antifa.
2)   What are their financial resources?
3)   What is their recruitment process?
4)   What are their strengths?
5)   What are their weaknesses?

1) How Many and Where

Despite initially reading that 40,000 people were expected to attend the counter-demonstration in Cologne in total, it seems, on the basis of what VH was so good as to unearth, that no more than five or six thousand people attended in total. VH has also estimated (I am entirely reliant on his work here) that there would not have been more than about 2,000 Antifa there. The significance of this number depends on certain factors. If the attempts to disrupt the Pro-Cologne demonstration were a major event on the Antifa calendar for 2008 and only 2,000 of them made it, we must either assume that the figure of 2,000 is roughly representative of their strength in Western Europe, or that there are is a significant number of additional cadres, but the financial and organizational resources required to get them there were lacking, or some combination of both possibilities.

VH informs me that there were probably not more than a few hundred non-German Antifa members at the demonstration, and that those came mainly from Belgium, the Netherlands, and perhaps parts of France. It seems reasonable to suggest that there are at most a few thousand serious Antifa members throughout the bulk of Western Europe. They may be complimented in any given situation by a significant number of normal protestors who they may instruct and direct to a certain extent, but these people are probably not much of an issue one way or another in their own right.

2) Financial Resources

As one might expect of a group of people who, despite their ideological differences, all reject the fundamental organizing principles of Western societies, Antifa members do not seem to be high earners. It is also hard to see how a group of this nature could generate any reliable flow of funding of any sort, or who it would be prepared to accept it from.

We would benefit by knowing more on this subject, but VH has sent me some fascinating information on the attempts by Antifa in the Netherlands to have “squatters’ rights” recognized by the government. As far as I can make out, the Netherlands has recognized a ‘right to squat’ since a court ruling in 1971, which Antifa have made great use of. The vexing question of how people who are presumably not engaged in productive labour of the sort rewarded in a modern economy can continue to lead their chosen lifestyles is thus partly answered, certainly for the Netherlands and perhaps for other countries as well to some extent. Availing themselves of the opportunities presented by the occasional building left vacant for more than a year, the single largest component in their, or anybody else’s, living expenses is reduced virtually to zero.

In September of this year, in response to a proposed bill to change the law and ban squatting, several hundred ‘activists’ from across the country held a demonstration in Utrecht to protest. With Antifa as with anyone else, threaten to withdraw the subsidization of their lifestyles with the wealth of others, and they squeal. The reliance of these people on living off other people without providing something of value in return is evident, and provides a great insight into how feeble their ability to fund themselves presumably is. I will discuss this important issue in more detail below.

3) Recruitment Process

I would imagine that many, if not most Antifa groups have some sort of web presence or are at least active enough on Indymedia and other similar sites to be able to provide a point of contact for those who are interested in getting involved. Face-to-face contacts and recruitment will be viable in areas with visible Antifa groups. However, the most interesting questions with respect to Antifa recruitment are those that pertain to screening and depth of access.

Anyone turning up to an action dressed in black with a hood and a mask will doubtless be allowed to participate to some degree, as Antifa requires large numbers of people if it is to achieve what it wants to achieve. It gets away with this because of the lack of any obvious operational security requirements, which is another point I will touch on below in a discussion of Antifa’s possible weaknesses.

4) Strengths

Though the organizational prowess of Antifa seems to be considerable in some regards, we would do well not to overstate it. Given that hardcore Antifa members presumably spend their lives waiting for the next bit of ‘action,’ their ability to buy a bus ticket to Cologne given two months’ advance warning is hardly overwhelming. The key strengths of the Antifa, for which we must give them their due, are their tactical and ideological coherence at street level. This conclusion is based on sketchy evidence and a few leaps of faith, but I believe it is likely to be valid, as I shall explain below.

Antifa seem to have a finely-honed awareness of what they can get away with, both politically and tactically. Given that this is not something that can be derived from first principles, but must be understood afresh each time on the basis of the country of operations, the relevant stances of the government in question, and perhaps other factors too, Antifa must have good intelligence in this regard if my reading of their tightrope-walking act is correct. This bespeaks contacts in government and a nuanced understanding of the politics of the country in question and the way they themselves are viewed in it.

According to VH’s research, some 500 Antifa were eventually arrested in Cologne. The number of these people charged with a crime is presumably zero. To what possible end would the German authorities, national, regional, or municipal, wish to clutter up their court and prison system with hundreds of well-organized young criminals whose comrades could create significant political fall-out and bad publicity?

No, the desire of the authorities in situations such as these is to do the bare minimum necessary to contain the situation, and ensure that ensuing problems are as minimal as possible. So if we assume that one in four of the Antifa members present in Cologne were arrested, all to be released in the next couple of days, we are forced to conclude that Antifa as a whole have a very clear idea of which lines they can cross and which they cannot in attempting to achieve their political objectives. The demonstration was cancelled, and the long-term damage to the Antifa was nil insofar as we can discern it at present. This was a good result for them, at least in the short term, and was not achieved by chance.

To realize how impressive the performance of Antifa is in this regard, consider what is presumably involved in setting up an illegal blockade of the type that apparently featured in Cologne. Let us assume either that there are no police in the area in question or that the police who are present are keeping their distance. We have then a road or some other similar area of passage that Antifa wish to curtail passage along. My own experience of blockading roads is, sadly, rather limited, but a few minutes’ reflection will make it clear that the task the Antifa set themselves in doing this is far from trivial.

A group of Antifa deciding to block a road are putting themselves in a position where the probability of being involved in direct physical confrontation with others, up to and including heavily armed riot police, is high. Depending on the circumstances, the ability to predict the nature and scale of the likely violence may be rather limited. Though the recent Antifa activities in Cologne seem to have passed without significant challenge to said Antifa, despite the large number of arrests, this will not always be the case.

I submit that it is not possible for any group of people to do what Antifa do in blockading roads without having both a clear and well-communicated plan of action which takes into account different contingencies (police involvement, police charge, attack by opposing demonstrators, attack with bricks or water cannons, partial break in the blockade, injury to one of the Antifa members, etc.) and a high degree of confidence that fellow Antifa will back them up with fist and foot if need be.

Take away the first and they become a mob, the second a routed mob. Their ability to maintain tactical coherence and strong unit morale, which I take to be considerable, is impressive and a significant advantage in the face of less well-disciplined opponents. It presumably derives largely from distinct Antifa chapters acting in unison during Antifa actions, as it would be exceptionally difficult to maintain if members were dispersed at random throughout the Antifa contingent. As in an army, so in Antifa: small-unit cohesion will be an indispensable component in how they work.

Moving onto a slightly different strength, Antifa need some sort of reasonably well-established doctrine with respect to the degree of violence they can offer opposing demonstrators and the police. I have very little awareness, either in terms of background knowledge or specific information pertaining to recent events, of Antifa trying to kill people. Yet given their militant nature, ideological commitment, and the manifest hatred they have for their opponents, this would seem to require some explanation. I can only assume that Antifa know very well that they operate with, and only with, the consent of the state, be it in their home countries, or the country of any particular Antifa action.

Note that consent does not necessarily imply approval here. It only suggests that, at the very least, the authorities have conducted some sort of cost-benefit analysis on the crushing and dispersal of Antifa and decided that the costs outweigh the benefits. Whether approval exists or not would have to be judged on a case-by-case basis.

Given the intrinsically criminal nature of what they do, Antifa are clearly vulnerable to large-scale prosecution should any particular government turn its mind to the project. They are also liable to being undermined financially (turfed out of their squats, for example), banned from staging counter-demonstrations, infiltrated by the police and security services, and damaged structurally and ideologically by the incarceration of key figures.

It is therefore in their interests to keep the irritation they cause governments below a certain threshold if they wish to continue their activities at all. But they must keep it close to this threshold in order to be effective as judged by their own standards. This requires a keen awareness of lines that must not be crossed and the political scenes in their countries of origin and action. In effect, they must conduct the same cost-benefit analysis as governments (as outlined above), and conduct it accurately enough to arrive at the same conclusions. This will require a combination of ‘empirical research’ and political savvy that would be non-trivial to acquire and update as necessary.

5) Weaknesses

At first glance, it seemed to me that the recent events in Cologne marked Antifa as being, potentially at least, a major force in street-level politics throughout Western Europe. However, after having peered through at least some of the murk surrounding those events and accumulated some reasonable amount of information on the concrete details of what happened in Germany, it seems to me that this conclusion was unwarranted. Indeed, I do not think that Antifa constitute a force that will be capable of significantly influencing events in the case of a breakdown of civil order of the type predicted in “Surrender, Genocide, or What?”.

As discussed above, there do not seem to have been more than 2,000 Antifa in Cologne. If we assume that, adding in Scandinavian Antifa and German, Belgian, French and Dutch Antifa who were not in Cologne, we would have a maximum of 5,000 spread throughout this part of Europe, we are still talking about a force that is small in any absolute sense and cannot assemble itself as a whole even for an event such as that that took place in Cologne. Even there, it successfully conducted its activities only because the authorities in Cologne were, by all accounts, happy to let it move freely around the city, sabotage transport infrastructure, and intimidate and assault people trying to peaceably take part in a legal demonstration.

It is hard to believe that Antifa had any more freedom of movement, literally or figuratively, than the German authorities allowed it. It is terrible news for Germany that its government is sanguine about the notion of large gangs of hard-left criminals dictating what can and cannot take place on its streets, but this is more indicative of the current state of German party politics than any intrinsic capabilities of Antifa.

Furthermore, it should go without saying that, without at least the tolerance of government, Antifa cannot even really exist, much less function.

  • It is not an insurgency.
  • It cannot create or maintain the pillars of a modern society.
  • It is not a government-in-the-making.
  • It has no moral authority.
  • It is not a mass movement, despite its ability to occasionally recruit a few thousand placard-wavers to swell the ranks of its blockades.
  • It has no military capabilities.
  • It cannot take or hold territory.

When government opposes it, it will crumple. Yet when government supports it, it will be irrelevant, swamped by the vastly superior resources of the state. It is probably only relevant at all in marginal cases in which society as a whole and government in particular are weak, divided, or ambivalent with respect to given political developments and lack either the resolve to act, leaving a vacuum within which Antifa can operate, or the courage to apply pressure to certain parties, in which case they can allow Antifa to do so for them, thereby maintaining a degree of plausible deniability. That this sorry state of affairs currently prevails in many European countries does not remove this fundamental weakness of Antifa.

Another striking weakness is the lack of any independent financial base. The above anecdote about the squatters laughably trying to protect their “right to squat” makes clear the financial weakness of Antifa in general, at least insofar as the anecdote is applicable to Antifa in general. If the Dutch government does indeed succeed in taking this most cherished of human “rights” away, many Antifa may find themselves in the hideous position of having to work for a living.

More fundamentally, the financial weakness of Antifa will increase the attrition rate of recruits, pushing down the number of years the average recruit spends as a member and with it the mean competence of Antifa as a whole and the morale of remaining members. It also reduces their ability to engage in international actions, which would presumably explain why significant numbers of European Antifa members (using their numbers as estimated above) do not seem to have been in Cologne. It is, after all, hard to imagine that they had anything better to do with their time.

It was noted above that Antifa needs the tolerance of government to survive, but this is not only true in the sense that it can, as an intrinsically criminal entity, be shut down if the political will exists. Perhaps more importantly, it is true in the sense that the very livelihoods of Antifa members seem to be dependent on the existence of a strong welfare state, and I am particularly indebted to VH for explaining this point to me.

He tells me that most of the street-fighting militants are between the ages of 16 and 28 or so, and that they survive on welfare payments whilst living a noble savage-type existence in squats. Upon eventually graduating from the ‘tactical’ branch of Antifa, they drift in the direction of more ‘managerial’ roles while obtaining volunteer positions (and still receiving welfare), or employment at certain predictable types of organizations (‘anti-racism’ organizations, immigrant advocacy organizations, local government and so on, all of it funded by the taxpayer). What this means, if I have read the situation correctly, is that significant numbers of parasitical, seditious, hard-left types with overt criminal tendencies are subsidized by the state to try and undermine it and its laws. Leaving to one side the absurdity of this situation and what it says about modern Europe, it is clear that one of most obvious ways of trying to damage, if not destroy, Antifa would be to castrate it financially through ripping it, kicking and screaming, from the teat of the state.

The last obvious point that could, in principle, constitute a weakness is the open nature of the Antifa recruitment process. Given the large numbers of people Antifa must attract to be at all effective, and given further the lack of any obvious mechanism whereby an infiltrator could impair Antifa’s ability to achieve its goals, we must assume that virtually anyone who wants to join any of the subgroups that combine to form Antifa as a whole is welcome provided they display a minimum level of commitment. This suggests that finding a way of making infiltration hurt Antifa could radically reduce its recruitment capabilities while hurting morale at the same time.

Of course, if one were prepared to engage in illegal activities, it would not be hard to think of ways to use Antifa’s laxness in this regard to punish it and rot away at it from the inside. Doing so without crossing the line into illegality, however, would require detailed case-by-case knowledge of what sort of information could be gathered on individual Antifa members to convince the police to prosecute them, public authorities to withdraw their financial support, or employers to fire them. Whether or not any theoretical efforts made in this regard might not be made with greater effect in lobbying to reform the relevant parts of the welfare state or persuade the police and courts to more assiduously prosecute Antifa in the first place is, admittedly, an open question.


Antifa, though impressive in its ability to occasionally motivate and organize reasonably large numbers of dysfunctional and unproductive youth, does not seem to be in possession of any of the characteristics that might award it some determinative influence on the trajectory any particular European state will take with respect to Islamization. Whether or not any given demonstration will take place is ultimately determined by the government of the country in question, though in hiding behind Antifa may to allow that government to shrug and attempt to avoid responsibility for making said demonstration impossible.

Note also that, given the small numbers of Antifa members, their feeble financial resources, and the amount of time required to organize any major action, the ability of Antifa to disrupt simultaneous or near-simultaneous events across Europe will be close to zero.

Nevertheless, Antifa is a serious enough political phenomenon to deserve serious consideration, especially given its tendency to target individuals with potentially lethal violence. Though I excluded this aspect of its ‘activism’ from this discussion, the destruction of Antifa as a whole would be justified on these grounds alone, insofar as such a loose-knit entity can ever be completely destroyed.

Furthermore, the willingness of what is presumably a small set of Antifa members to viciously attack specific individuals, be they politicians, judges, or political activists, is probably more of a problem for those who would oppose Islamization than the mass mobilization witnessed recently in Cologne. Identifying the individuals responsible for these attacks almost certainly constitutes a better reason to infiltrate Antifa than that outlined above, the costs of which could well outweigh the benefits.

Perhaps the single greatest structural weakness of Antifa is that its entire operational doctrine, at least with respect to mass action, is predicated on the existence of a powerful apparatus of state, which sets the constraints within which it must work. Should the breakdown of civil order that I and others have envisaged ever occur in any European country, Antifa will find that its baseball bats and steel toecaps do not represent the cutting edge of early 21st-century military technology. If that day comes, there may well be a belated discovery that walking into a gunfight without a gun is the most unforgiving of errors.

18 thoughts on “The Ascendancy of the InterNazis

  1. One group is anarchist and the other wants to rule in a new Zimbabwetopia.
    How is that going to work?
    The bankster scum will use any “ism” to maintain their stranglehold on the planet.
    Jesus was peaceful but the money changers made him snap.

  2. ‘The Nazis were very much Socialists, but wanted nothing to do with the vile cosmopolitan Bolshevik version of Socialism’

    Since when do Socialists engage in mass scale privatization though? A term that literally originates with Nazi policies.

    • Strange question, the Nazis controlled all aspects of production, even that of so called ‘private’ companys, not one nut or bolt was made without permission (and price control) by the local party.

      Socialsm is not defined by ownership as such, but by control, and an ongoing belief that the ends justify the means. Socialism is amoral, which makes if ethically flexible, with no fixed policy but the whim of its executive.

      This is the warlord culture which has dominated the affairs of humanity for milennia, communism, fascism and nazism are just names by which afficionados try to justify or vilify theirs or the other’s political-religious bigotry. In the end, it is about personality cults – warlords giving their identity to the strong to force the weak to conform

      A real ‘peoples’ movement would not require a team of thugs to enforce their doctrine, red shirts, brown shirts, blackshirts are the tools of the various enforcement arms of what we call ‘socialism’ – the right of the ‘strong’ (ruthless) to rule those weaker than themselves by violence and terror.

      Revolutions may start with ‘good’ intentions, but by, of necessity. empowering bullies and thugs, the ‘good’ is very soon covered in innocent blood. Terror and violence are all the same to the victim, it does not have a brand name.

      • This comment is from France.

        Hello MC in Sderot !

        I agree with your comment. As for this study of the Antifas, it’s great and well researched .

        For me, such a movement has no real popular base and is only ssustained by three things:
        — The immense amount of money spent by Soros and Co through the years to fund the Antifas and their allies.
        —- The naiveté of young people in Western Universities, brainwashed by leftists teachers, added to the credulity of low-brow followers.
        — The influence of leftists who have infiltrated all segments of our societies. ( They even do their destroying work in Israel of all places, I believe! )

        Thats why I like Baron’s lines at the beginning of the article:
        – About the funding ” Some opened the spigots and the money started to flow”.

        — Aboutt the spread of Socialism:
        ” ..International Socialism did notdie like Nazism or Sovietism….By the 1070’s it had spread throughout the institutions of the Free World like a metastazied cancer in the body politic of Western Civilization”

        ( It looks like The Italian communist strategist Antonio Gramsci’s theories and ideas have really worked, unfortunately. … In France, it’s feels like my dear country is really dying of this cancer and that right now nobody sees a cure….. )

        Best regards.

    • The privatisation was state regulated and influenced, it was clearly laid out that all factories etc. are to support the state if need be (aka make weapons). The state skillfully avoided having to pay for recovering establishments after the Great Depression, while maintaining a firm grip on them. It was a “privatisation” in name only.

      • you all have a point there. As a matter of fact, all privat companies were under the control of a state agency , esp. after 1936, in preparation for war planned 1940! The government founded a sort of scam bank that accepted exchange bills drawn by the ministry of defence who then were prolongated by national bank paying good interest rates. This ended as one might guess in an overinflated currency, but passed unnoticed till the end of the war. In the meantime, fiat money was made by looting occupied countries.

        • It’s like the old joke: With communism, the state owns the cows. With fascism, you own the cows, but the state takes all the milk.

  3. Not exactly about antifa, but more connections into the USA.

    Trevor Loudon has made many connections and a lot of historical research to politicians in the USA, and the socialist, to communist connections.
    Another connection to the CCP virus, that seems to be attacking the western world.
    Strong connections pushing an insurgency, of Burning, Looting, & Murderous Mayhem.

    The epoch times seems to have done an interview, and this is a part of transcript, that I have abbreviated.
    …… It is a socialist organization, drawing from Marxist ideology, “with a clear focus on building the resistance to Trump,” its website said. ….
    ….. Riots in Minneapolis were sparked by FRSO, specifically by its member Jess Sundin, who also is a leader of the movement called Twin Cities Coalition for Justice 4 Jamar, and the wife of FRSO political secretary, Loudon said.
    Loudon produced a video that includes a podcast showing Sundin, “admitting that she was the main organizer of the riots” and talking about the joy she felt when she saw a police precinct “being burnt to the ground.”
    She also admitted that the violence, looting, and arson were “intrinsically part of the movement,” Loudon said, “It wasn’t a peaceful demonstration being hijacked.”
    Riots and unrest in other cities including Kenosha, Dallas, Houston, Tallahassee, Jacksonville, Miami, Tampa, Salt Lake City, and Los Angeles were organized and coordinated by the same group, Loudon said.
    Loudon wrote that FRSO political secretary Steff Yorek said on the day President Donald Trump was inaugurated, “We need to stay in the streets the entire four years opposing Trump and making the country ungovernable.”
    Trevor Loudon has been researching behind the scenes for decades, showing the communist, and socialist link ups, into USA politics, and became more involved in the USA links.
    Previously he had a blog known as New Zeal that transferred over to

    Keywiki has decades of background research on many different people.

    Many rabbit holes go down, but one can be very quickly check on a name and if there, seems to have further good sources to check out.

    Some may have grown on from their “heady” antifa days, and now being a part of the long march through an institution.

  4. I know for a fact that that the Intelligence agencies (oxymoron I know) of Europe(especially the German BND) and to some extent the US have antifa thoroughly infiltrated. They are used as puppets to keep the so called right at bay and why they are tolerated by the leftist politicians who pay them.

  5. Seems like such an odd juxtaposition of symbol’s. That a more recent Antifa (Antifascist) A, would look so similar to a (pro-fascist) Nazi A, of the 1930’s.

  6. Regarding Antifa, Black Bloc, and anarchist actions, they were instigators of the Occupy thuggery that was tacitly accepted and likely supported by the Alinskyites in the Obama regime, including Hussein himself.
    Much of the propaganda for Occupy, as well as current promotion of Antifa and anarchist actions emanate from the Canadian media group, Adbusters, out of Vancouver. There are deep pockets with likely funding from the global terror sugar daddy, Soros, and his ilk.

  7. If the takeover of Europe by Islam continues, it will be interesting to see what happens to antifa. To the gallows I suspect, as in Iran.

  8. The height of any Muslim take over of Western Europe would be at best I imagine be a state of constant slaughter. Unless sooner still an opportunity to nuke Turkey arises from somewhere or other.

  9. VERY well written! Thank you, very interesting. These are just “Dysfunctional and unproductive” troubled, young, lazy men looking for a tribe and some meaning in the wrong places. We have had SO many such male failures the last 70 years in Western culture.

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