Malign Foreign Influences in Dutch Mosques

The Dutch Parliament has concluded a study on the influence of non-free countries on Muslims in the Netherlands. Many thanks to FouseSquawk for translating this article from De Dagelijkse Standaard:

Parliamentary commission concludes Dutch mosques influenced by non-free countries

by Michael van der Galien
June 25, 2020

The parliamentary commission that conducted an investigation into the funding of mosques and Islamic schools has concluded that they are influenced through “financiers from non-free lands who want to exercise their political-religious influence in the Netherlands.” This concerns “fundamentalist messages that reject the core values of our society.”

The Tweede Kamer needed a commission in order to conclude that? Literally, everybody knew all along that there were problems, but oh, oh, the Second Chamber had to first investigate it thoroughly, and only then could they could say it.

The most important criticism is directed towards Kuwait, Qatar and Saudi Arabia. There imams are trained and indoctrinated with an extreme version of Islam, and then sent out to the Netherlands. “Muslim communities are also bombarded with strict religious messages via social media.”

The commission also whines about Turkey— The Diyanet (Turkish agency for religious affairs) is said to “hold a political grip on the visitors to the mosques and the Turkish Dutch”. If that was true, then you still ask yourself what would be illegal about it. It is completely logical that a country wants to have contact with its citizens, even if they live elsewhere. The Netherlands does no different. And the message from Turkish Diyanet imams is really never anti-democratic and never affects the fundamentals of the democratic constitutional state. Perhaps the connections with Turkey are underscored, but yes, in the Netherlands, we have allowed the people to have two passports. So it is logical and even defensible that Turkey contacts its people and treats them as Turks. Which they always are.

As regards the anti-democratic, anti-West messages that are preached in Arab and Moroccan mosques: This must naturally be discussed directly with the countries. Possibilities to stop it must be looked at… if the possibilities are legal.

Because yes, in the Netherlands, we have religious freedom. Foreigners can be influenced by the content of religious leaders’ speeches.

Oh no, does Michael really write now that they are free and must be free?

Yes, indeed. Yes. There is one limitation, however, that we can place: When the message is against the law. So if they, for example, call for the use of violence against certain people or groups. Legally, you can intervene if they call for the overthrow of the democratic constitutional state itself. Then you can intervene as a government.

But in all other cases, that cannot be done.

Then how to deal with it? By fighting it from the other angle: by understanding that the problem is that Arab and Moroccan mosque-goers are seemingly susceptible to an “extremely conservative” (read: fundamentalist or worse) message. So something went wrong either during integration or, if they were born and raised in the Netherlands, in their upbringing. Where did ‘we’ go wrong?

2 thoughts on “Malign Foreign Influences in Dutch Mosques

  1. “Where did ‘we’ go wrong?”

    Begin by allowing dual passports and dual citizenship. A person has primary loyalty to one country. When your citizens take citizenship in another country, or when citizens of another country want to immigrate and keep their previous citizenship, it means they are likely not loyal to your country. Make them choose one side or another.

    Another way is incurring a government operating deficit. Either you have hyperinflation, or else some rich country like Saudi Arabia or China funds your deficits by buying your bonds. The more you limit the ways they can use these bonds, the fewer they can buy, and the more expensive the borrowing is for the government. A government addicted to deficit spending is aware that it has to mollify its creditors, or they will stop funding the government. At that point, the welfare checks stop, hyperinflation sets in, and the current government gets swept out of office.

    Finally, dare I say it, limit immigration, particularly of Muslims. Any immigration is disruptive and should only be done in small doses. The big danger is assuming immigrants who are refugees from their own country will not be in favor of instituting a system exactly like that which they left.

    • Broadly, I agree; one of my brothers, resident in Vancouver, was born in Canada in the 1950s to our British parents, and retains both passports; he’s never going to live in the UK, so I think he should make up his mind.

      OTOH, my British partner, who lived and worked in Australia for ten years, maintains her Aussie passport; she says it reduces hassle when she revisits, which is true, but I’m sure there’s some sentimental attachment too, which perhaps applies to my brother.

      Second- and third- generation Turks, however, whether in Denmark or, especially, Germany, really should be told to decide where their loyalties lie, and certainly not be allowed to vote in both countries’ elections. Mind you, I believe some long-term US expats do the same…

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