Mosques: Learning Curve Needed

Mosques: Learning Curve Needed

by Michael Copeland

The leader of Worcester City Council, Marc Bayliss, happened to be passing when Britain First, a young political party, held a day of campaigning in Worcester city centre against the planned large new mosque there. When he confronted Britain First’s leader, Bayliss revealed quite how much of a learning curve yet awaits him and is needed. Importantly, his outlook is almost certainly shared by millions, in what can be called the Normal Assumed View. This is the British goodwill/fair play view which, not being very interested in religion, relies heavily on assumptions, and is not strong on facts. Bayliss’s arguments make a useful and telling exposure of an urgent need nationwide. The exchange was recorded and can be seen on Britain First’s Facebook page.

Bayliss said there were churches in Saudi Arabia. Not so. No church is permitted. No Bible may be brought into the country, and no cross may be displayed. When a former Archbishop of Canterbury, George Carey, was on a flight that was diverted to Saudi Arabia he was instructed to remove the pectoral cross he was wearing. Saudi Arabia, the home of Islam, is strongly anti-Christian. This is because Islam itself is strongly anti-Christian, and, for that matter, strongly opposed to all other religions and to atheism. No temples are permitted, and no synagogues. No Jew may even enter the State. No non-muslim may set foot in Mecca. Saudi Arabia is a hard-line observer of Islam’s restrictions.

Bayliss was critical of Britain First’s campaign. Evidently he regarded it as a needless provocation:

“I am very proud of a mosque in Worcester, which is a peaceful, loving community where people get on.”

“Tell me why you are opposing a mosque,” said Bayliss. This question was not answered, but some observations may be made here.

In the Normal Assumed View, like Bayliss’s, a mosque is on a par with a church, or a synagogue. Not so. A mosque, as former professor of Islamic law, Sam Solomon, explains, is NOTHING LIKE A CHURCH. Every mosque is modelled on Mohammed’s first mosque in Medina. It is where military training takes place, where punishments are decided, where jihad plans are made and expeditions launched; it is a court, a school, a forum where news of sex-slaves can be exchanged, and where a market can be set up for forged passports and the like. It is an assembly space where tabs can be kept on others: members can observe who is failing to attend; pressure can be put on any brother whose daughter is not wearing Islamic attire, or being too Western. It is a place for reinforcing Islamic apartheid. Non-muslims are NOT PERMITTED in the worship, where the fiery sermons instructing hatred are given. “Between us and you enmity and hatred forever…” says Koran 60:4, part of Islamic law. The mosque is the place for furthering Islam’s commanded mission — to make all people everywhere Islamic, by force if needed, in the commanded Global Caliphate.

“Does Islam or does it not force people by the power of the sword to submit? Yes,” explained Osama bin Laden. The commanded imperative is that Islam Must Dominate. Muslims should not accept rule by non-muslims. Islam has to prevail over all, and Islam is in “a permanent state of war” with all non-muslims, who have to be hated. Muslims inhabit Dar al-Islam, the realm of Islam: non-muslims, “filth” in Islam’s teachings, inhabit Dar al-Harb, the Realm of War. It is very political. Well over half the Koran concerns non-muslims, and how they must be hated and overpowered.

“‘In the Muslim community, the holy war is a religious duty’ because Islam is ‘under obligation to gain power over other nations’.” —Ibn Khaldun (1332-1406)

“There can be no peace … The Islamic movement can and must take power as soon as it is morally strong enough … to destroy the non Islamic power …”Alija Izetbegovic of Bosnia (backed by NATO and the EU).

In mosque sermons men are urged to kill Jews by hand (Channel Four “Dispatches”). They are urged to “take” non-muslim girls as their right. This is part of the war:

“Their women are yours to take, legitimately. Allah made them yours. Why don’t you enslave them?” —Sheikh Saad al Beraik

“The mosques are our barracks, …the faithful our soldiers”, said a Turkish politician some years ago, quoting an old Islamic poem. He was judged seditious, and imprisoned for it. Today he is President of Turkey, Recep Tayyip Erdogan. The military metaphor runs all throughout Islam’s history. Mohammed was a warlord, his followers armed and ready to take part in raids. Muslims are “soldiers of Allah”, in “battalions” of fighting men. A mosque is a bridgehead, a rabat, where quasi-military political Islam marks its territory and plans its expansion. Mohammed’s mosque in Medina acted as a storage place for arms. Several mosques in Europe and the UK, like the Finsbury Park mosque, have been found by police to be storing firearms.

“The mosque is vital for establishing Muslims as sovereign over non-Muslims in a non-Islamic society or country. Building a mosque in a non-Islamic society or country symbolizes Islam’s claim over that society or country, even with a non-Muslim majority”, writes Dr. Daniel Shayesteh, formerly a muslim, now a Christian, in his book Islam the House I Left Behind, p.99.

“We do not need people who are stirring xenophobia”, says Bayliss. This is an example of conflating two different matters. Criticism of an ideology is not a mental condition. Further, the word xenophobia, an irrational fear of foreigners, does not mean deliberate hatred of foreigners, which is how the word is all too often misused. Britain First’s campaign against mosques is founded on legitimate concerns about Islam’s teachings. It is not an example of “hate”.

“Why are you opposing Islam?” asked Bayliss. His question was not answered, but Pat Condell’s answer would suffice:

“Because Islam is opposed to me.”

For instructions given in mosques see “Instructing “Radicalisation”.

For previous essays by Michael Copeland, see the Michael Copeland Archives.

10 thoughts on “Mosques: Learning Curve Needed

  1. Here are references to some of the details cited:

    Sam Solomon video:
    “What is a Mosque? Modern day Trojan Horse” on youtube
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXInAtDfizI

    “battalions” quoted from the captured secret “Explanatory Memorandum” of the Muslim Brotherhood, para. 17.
    “Understanding the role and the nature of work of “The Islamic Center” in every city
    …the axis for our movement …the base for our rise …to educate us, prepare us and supply our battalions…”
    https://clarionproject.org/Muslim_Brotherhood_Explanatory_Memorandum/

    “a permanent state of war” …….
    “Al Azhar University in Cairo … teaches that Jihad is a permanent war institution against Jews Christians and pagans.”
    Nonie Darwish
    http://www.ruthfullyyours.com/2010/06/01/nonie-darwish-brennans-lesson-on-jihad/

    Archbishop of Canterbury forced to remove cross in Saudi Arabia
    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/2920/islam-tradition-breaking-cross

    Further quotations:

    “Mosque means the place of war, the place of fighting. Out of the mosques wars should proceed. The Prophet had sword to kill people.”
    Ayatollah Khomeini
    Understanding Muhammad: A Psychobiography of Allah’s Prophet
    By Ali Sina, p.51

    “We are at war and I am a soldier” – London 7/7 bomber.

    • With apologies to Paul Golding, he did give answers to why he is opposing mosques:

      “too much extremism coming out of mosques ….. they discriminate against women, they discriminate against non-Muslims.”

      Another activist argued that he was against mosques because there are no governing bodies to regulate them.

      All valid points.

  2. Thank you. Succinct, accurate and authentic. This short article should be available to every school in the UK – to be included in the curriculum from September 2019, (which is the starting date for mandatory LGBTQ & gender issues becoming part of the school day for children aged 4+.)
    For a child to be apprised from a young age of the inevitable mortal danger that Islam brings is vital for the future life and continuance of western civilisation. To do otherwise is to purposefully lead children into the abyss.
    The educators really need to review their priorities while there is still time.

  3. This failure to understand the true nature of Islam, even as its adherents quietly prepare to conquer formerly Christian countries in the industrialized West, is difficult to fathom. It isn’t easy to ignore the obvious signs, but they manage to do it, nevertheless. This is the power of leftist ideology. Facts will not be considered if they tend to undermine prevailing views.

    The growth of Islam is relatively more or less advanced in various countries. Those which are “behind the curve” will have the opportunity to arouse themselves before it is too late, as Italy and Denmark are in the process of doing.

    The UK, Sweden, France and Spain seem to be hopelessly deluded.

    • Re: “This failure to understand the true nature of Islam, even as its adherents quietly prepare to conquer formerly Christian countries in the industrialized West, is difficult to fathom. It isn’t easy to ignore the obvious signs, but they manage to do it, nevertheless.”

      Adam, the truth of which you speak is ugly – but there is an uglier one still. Throughout much of the West, the ruling elites are admitting the violence, chaos and death of Islam into our midst – amongst those of us who reside in western civilization whether in Europe or elsewhere – in full knowledge of what Islam is and how Muslims conquer, enslave, and kill non-Muslims wherever they go.

      The Great Jihad spreading across Europe has been punctuated with hundreds of serious attacks and many thousands of smaller though no less traumatic incidents. Murder, rape, sexual slavery, kidnapping and forcible addiction to narcotics of the victims (who are often young women or children), arson, ritual beheadings in public places, bomb attacks, knife attacks, attacks using vehicles.

      The list goes on and has been – for years, for decades – yet the elites tell their people that more immigrants – and more Muslims – will be coming to their countries and to their towns, cities and neighborhoods. That is precisely what Macron in France told the French people not long after being elected.

      The political elites – leaders like Merkel, May and Macron – are heads-of-state, so they cannot claim ignorance as their defense. They have the immense resources of their respective governments behind them, able to inform them about any inquiry they may raise.

      They know – they must know – the statistics on the Islamic crime wave which is sweeping Europe; likewise, they must know the statistics on the acts of jihad being committed by Muslim émigrés. Yet, they continue to press for more Islamic immigration into their respective nations. Such willful behavior cannot be written off as simple negligence or carelessness – it is intentional and these individuals have taken their actions fully-knowing the consequences which were likely to result.

      In plain language, the elites are committing an act of betrayal – an act of treason – virtually unparalleled in human history. Based upon the evidence, no other conclusion is possible.

      • Per Sherlock Holmes, once you eliminate the impossible, what you have left is the truth, no matter how improbable.

        It is impossible that the Treason Class is unaware of the exact nature of the damage they are doing by encouraging open borders and mewling over diversity, as you correctly note, therefore they intend the destruction that is occurring. Those entrusted with the most sacred duty, that of protecting the realm and the people, are filthy betrayers.

      • I would argue it’s fairly useless to argue over the motivation of the ruling class or political leaders.

        Most of them are probably not too bright, or have very focused, verbal rather than logical intelligence.

        But although we have only speculation on their internal motivations, we have rock-solid information on their actions and their stated future actions. We should act accordingly, and not worry too much about why they act as they do.

  4. We have speech that is protected by the first amendment and speech that is unprotected. The latter includes incitement and lies. Incitement means attempts by speech to commit criminal acts and acts of violence.
    What is said in mosques is clearly laced with both of these varieties of unprotected free speech. This means that we have the legal tools to close mosques right now…if we can gather the evidence of illegal speech activity extant in these buildings.

    It all depends upon our information and our will to follow the present laws.

  5. I have a small correction.

    Jews are allowed to travel to Saudi Arabia (though of course not in the holy cities).

    https://www.quora.com/Can-Jews-fly-to-Saudi-Arabia-An-article-indicates-that-Saudi-Arabian-Airlines-enforces-a-national-ban-against-Jews-and-holders-of-Israeli-passports-Is-this-true-How-would-a-code-sharing-partner-e-g-Delta-Airlines-enforce-this-ban

    To summarize:

    1. Saudi has no diplomatic relations with Israel, and as such does not recognize Israeli passports. Mostly. There are occasional exceptions.

    2. There are many Jews working in Saudi under the passports of many nationalities. The official position of the Saudi government is to not forbid Jews from Saudi.

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