The Murderer of Mia in Kandel Will Serve at Most Eight Years in Prison

Last year we featured a series of reports about the murder of a 15-year-old girl named Mia in the German town of Kandel. The accused murderer was a young culture-enricher from Afghanistan named Abdul D., who was allegedly also 15 years old. However, he was plainly considerably older than that; in the photos he looks to be in his mid-twenties. One of the TV news outfits corroborated this assessment by visiting his hometown and talking to people who knew him.

None of that mattered to the prosecutorial authorities, who tried him as a juvenile. As a result he couldn’t be sentenced to more than ten years in prison, and when he pled guilty, he was given a sentence of eight and a half years. I don’t know how much time he will likely serve — in many European countries, offenders customarily serve about half their sentences, and sometimes less.

I’d bet money that he can’t be deported after he gets out, because his homeland is “unsafe”.

Many thanks to Ava Lon for the translation, and to Vlad Tepes for the subtitling:

Video transcripts (note — the transcript is in three parts because the video was compiled from three separate original clips):

00:00   In the trial concerning the violent death of 15-year-old Mia in Kandel
00:05   the ex-boyfriend of the victim was sentenced to 8.5 years in prison for murder
00:10   Since the accused was possibly a minor at the time,
00:15   the public was excluded from trial in the court in Landau. Also, the sentence
00:20   was pronounced behind closed doors. The suspect, allegedly originally from Afghanistan,
00:25   pleaded guilty to murder and injuries, the court announced on Monday
00:30   on their internet site. The State Prosecutor and the plaintiffs demanded an incarceration
00:35   of ten years for the act, and the defense 7.5 years for manslaughter.
00:40   He was sentenced as minor. The attorney for the accused,
00:45   Maximilian Endler, commented after the verdict.
00:50   I think this is a correct verdict, which
00:55   came, I wouldn’t say after the clarification of the situation, but everybody
01:00   made huge effort to shine light on this act.
01:05   I believe that it happened, as much as a criminal trial can deliver that [result], and
01:10   therefore it’s also a just verdict. The 15-year-old Mia was murdered
01:16   at the end of December 2017. Before that, according to the police, a fight broke out
01:21   between her and the boy, in a drugstore, as a result of which the young man stabbed the girl.
01:26   The perpetrator, who, according to his own account, was also 15 years old at the time of the deed,
01:31   was overpowered by passersby and finally arrested by the police.
01:36   According to statements, he was in a relationship with the victim, which was ended by the girl at
01:40   the beginning of December. Later, doubts surfaced concerning the real age of the perpetrator.
01:46   The crime caused a huge nationwide dismay and started discussions about
01:51   refugees who became offenders. Right wing groups saw in the case a proof for
01:56   the failure of the migration policies.
00:00   A round of applause for Chemnitz! Applause which shows that in Kandel it hasn’t been only about
00:06   Kandel for a while already. For months this trial has been causing rallies; that’s also the case
00:11   this weekend. Against a rally opposing the government’s asylum policies there is a counter-rally.
00:15   The police are separating the two camps, which in the case of Kandel don’t come together.
00:20   This has had nothing to do with Kandel for a while. The terrible murder
00:25   that we had here has only being used by them, and
00:30   it’s simply enough. —That people who are being financed by us stay here
00:33   and stab local people — it’s unacceptable.
00:41   The trial that divided the town like nothing before ends today with the sentencing.
00:46   Abdul D. allegedly stabbed [his victim] seven times. 15-year-old Mia
00:51   died shortly afterwards, here in a public space. —The accused and his victim
00:56   Had had a relationship for some time. Anyway, the girl
01:01   separated from him about four weeks before the event. And for that reason
01:06   the prosecutor assumes murder. The trial starts in mid-July, behind closed doors.
01:11   Only very little transpires: the age and origins of the accused
01:16   are preoccupying the court the most. He allegedly arrived in 2015 as a minor, allegedly from
01:22   Afghanistan. Medical reports concerning his age show some shortcomings, according to the defense,
01:26   but they could prove decisive. Under the criminal law for minors the accused is risking up to
01:31   ten years in prison. Many citizens in Kandel are now hoping that with the sentencing the quiet
01:36   will return, after countless rallies in a small town with fewer than
01:41   nine thousand inhabitants.
08:00   We can certainly say that some social structures in which, for example
08:05   there’s a difference in worth between men and women, in which women aren’t allowed to do things,
08:10   because otherwise the honor of the family or the honor of the husband
08:15   would be damaged, [so we can say] that when under such pressure
08:20   the probability of violence can absolutely increase.
08:25   What society is Abdul D. originally from? SWR [TV] is going to Afghanistan to look for clues.
08:30   Here in a village, 30 km north of Kabul, Abdul D. grew up.
08:35   The area is in [unintelligible] controlled by Taliban.
08:41   We’re showing Abdul’s picture. Can anyone recognize him?
08:46   He used to be my classmate. He was a good boy. Perhaps Abdul was a little emotional.
08:51   As a Pashtun he cannot accept when his girlfriend leaves him.
08:56   According to the Quran, women, who leave their men
08:59   have to be stoned or killed. We hear
09:06   that Abdul’s family is wealthy and went to Germany of their own accord.
09:11   Many of his cousins went there, and finally so did he.
09:16   How old could he be? I guess he was 20 years old.
09:22   Was he the same age as you? —No, he was a little older.
09:27   How old was he when he left? — Twenty years old.
09:32   How do you know? —Because he was a little older than me.
09:37   It looks as if Abdul D. was older than what he said in Germany.
09:42   Is this why he had no ID? His asylum application was refused at the beginning of 2017.
09:47   But since he was considered an unaccompanied minor, he couldn’t be deported.
09:52   The state prosecutor had doubts concerning his age and therefore ordered a medical examination.
09:57   The medical examination resulted in the conclusion that the accused
10:02   is most likely twenty years old, but the absolutely lowest possible age is
10:09   seventeen and a half.
10:15   The court explained that they assume an age of 17.5 years.
10:20   Abdul would be allegedly tried as minor. What does this mean for the possible sentence?
10:25   When the accused is sentenced for murder as minor,
10:30   then his maximum penalty is ten years, so no life sentence. Whether in this case
10:35   [Abdul] is tried as a minor, however, will be definitively clarified only during the trial.
10:40   And there the testimonies of Abdul’s schoolmates found in Afghanistan by SWR could
10:46   eventually become important. The trial will also ask questions concerning the communications
10:51   between the police and the Youth Office. Had they abundantly communicated about Abdul D.,
10:56   then the crime could have been prevented. Because Abdul, even before the deadly knife attack,
11:01   draws attention through his violence. The first complaint filed with the police against him was
11:05   at the end of November 2017. He beat up a boy in school.
11:08   Apparently out of jealousy, because he came too close to Mia.
11:11   A sign of alarm that passed unnoticed.
11:16   Since Abdul D. was treated as minor, he had a state guardian.
11:21   It’s a [social] worker from the Youth Office here at the district. He is, however,
11:24   only informed about injuries in school almost three weeks later in the middle of December.
11:28   Now is Abdul D. is threatening Mia as well. —We have found that the accused
11:37   called the girl and threatened her that he would follow her
11:42   and beat her. And as a result of that a complaint was filed
11:47   by the father of the girl with the police, and the police then talked with the troublemaker
11:52   on the phone, immediately after the complaint was filed, and also in person
11:57   the next day. On December 18, one day after the complaint by Mia’s family,
12:02   the police went to the school to talk with Abdul D. and took away his cell phone,
12:07   because he also threatened to spread compromising pictures of Mia.
12:12   In the meantime Abdul D. is living together with three other refugees
12:17   in a neighborhood outside Kandel. At that location there are no 24/7 guardians present.
12:23   In the morning of December 27, on the day of the crime, Abdul receives a visit from the police,
12:28   and they invite him in for questioning at beginning of January.
12:33   The guardian in the Youth Office isn’t informed about it.
13:24   Could a guardian have prevented what happened? Would better communication
13:29   between the police and the Youth Office change anything? Nobody knows. Those questions
13:34   are open. What’s certain is that no grown-up stopped Abdul D. when, shortly after the
13:40   visit to the police station, he leaves the house and goes to Kandel. A few hours later Mia is dead.
13:45   His threats against the girl were meant seriously.
13:50   Deadly seriously.
13:55   As a society, were we too naive? —As a society we are still learning new things.
14:00   It’s always like that, when a horrible incident happens, like in the case of
14:05   Mia, then the case is very much talked about.
14:10   We know now from experience that
14:15   young people who come here as unaccompanied minors from such cultures
14:20   obviously react differently than European youths.

11 thoughts on “The Murderer of Mia in Kandel Will Serve at Most Eight Years in Prison

  1. I wonder how many more years one would spend in prison in Germany for not paying one’s taxes, or for a post online criticizing murderous Afghani savages…

    • right question! Recently a young man was sentenced to nine years in the slammer for arson and attempted manslaughter. He had thrown an oversize firecracker at a mosque door. There were black residue traces on the door, there had been no fire at all and nobody was hurt.
      But could have been, so goes the logic of German judges these days.

    • Just don’t pay the GEZ (the organization that collects the money for the state-run television) and you will find out.
      They put you in prison till you pay, confiscate your bank account, etc.

      And to tell you something funny:

      The GEZ gets its right to collect the money from a Staatsvertrag (that’s a treaty where one or more of the parties are from the state).


      in the Bürgerliches Gesetzbuch (Civil code of Germany) there is an article that forbids a treaty that is to the detriment of a third party that is not part of this treaty. So the Staatsvertrag is between the state and the GEZ but the normal people are not part of this treaty.

      There are a few People who went to court against the GEZ with the article of the BGB but the courts do not even acknowledge the article of the BGB.

      • Damn! When I was on Erasmus in Germany about 15 years ago, I (foolishly) let the TV people into my place, and signed the forms saying i’ll pay the TV licence. (all my neighbours pretended not to be at home).

        After I finished Erasmus, I may have forgotten to inform them I was moving out. (I think I only deregistered at the Rathaus, and closed my Deutsche Bank account). And it’s been at the back of my mind, whether this is something that may be an issue at some stage?

    • Every migrant (I call them invasion army) can get documents very easy in Turkey. Doesn’t cost so much. They will be documented, if this will be necessary. I tend to think that this is not necessary. There are other options.

  2. The most important part of this interview to me was where the Afghan male says that as a pashtun, he could not bear to see his girlfriend leave, and that the Kuran says such women should be killed/stoned. We in India have seen a spate of killings of Hindu girls who leave their Muslim partners, and this is the same mentality—the same Kuranic mentality. We have to really try to educate non-Muslim women about this.

    • Firstly, if that’s their “traditional values” , then why allow men from such a culture to migrate to Europe in the first place?!

  3. I’d bet money that he can’t be deported after he gets out, because his homeland is “unsafe”.

    You’ve won that bet already. Germany does not deport “juvenile” delinquents.

  4. No matter the length of sentence, do sincerely hope Abdul has more than a memorable time of it highlighted by daily reminder of the sentence he gave Mia.

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