Halal, Vegan — Same Thing

In order to target the Muslim market, a German company is marketing a snack food as halal, but without using the word.

Egri Nök, who translated the brief commercial below, includes this explanatory note:

It’s a brilliant trick — “veggie” is a code word, so that they don’t have to say “halal”. German customers hate the word “halal”. We still love our pork too much. But when you call the product “veggie” you can sell it to both Turks and Germans.

I might add that after conferring with Egri, we decided to use “vegan” instead of “veggie” (which was borrowed from English) because in German the latter carries an all-pervading odor of sanctimony, which it doesn’t have in English — so “vegan” is a better fit.

Many thanks to Vlad Tepes for the subtitling:

Video transcript:

00:02   Of course I nibble. But only vegan.
00:05   Super easy — with Katjes. The whole range is completely without animal gelatin.
00:10   Keep an eye out for it! Katjes. All vegan. Yes, yes, yes!

20 thoughts on “Halal, Vegan — Same Thing

  1. I’d never buy their products. Their last campaign featured utterly stupid looking blonde “refugees welcome” chicks fresh from Munich main Station.

  2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism

    The difference between veggie/vegetarian is not however one of mere connotation ie subjective attitude to a word (“sanctimonious odour” on the part of those who object justifiably to Open Borders German Greens and all their works, or should I say handouts) , it is one of denotation, as I believe vegan means barring all animal products incl. dairy eg cheese.

    Veggie/vegetarian targets meat rather than all animal products. I have known various vegetarians who eat eggs and cheese, ie they are not “ovo-lacto vegetarians”, which must be the same thing as vegan for all intents and purposes.

    In this case, a vegetarian would not eat a meat-derived gelatine either, so I think “vegan” is misleading.

    Or is the distinction not made in the USA such that vegan denotes the same thing as vegetarian?

    • You’re right that “vegan” has a different meaning than “vegetarian”; that is, it means a strict avoidance of meat, eggs, and dairy products. However, in the USA at least, the word also wears a halo of moral superiority that “vegetarian” lacks. If one says, “I’m a vegan,” it means, “I am an enlightened being, far above the crude ruck of normal humanity.”

      According to Egri, “veggie” has somewhat of the same connotation in German. After discussing it, she, Vlad, and I decided on “vegan” as a word that would carry an approximation of the same cultural baggage.

      Translating trendy terms from popular culture can be difficult.

  3. Why the male voice at -00:37? And what is he saying? It sounds like “Achte Madraf”.

  4. Even though there is nothing wrong in this advert of a Muslim trying to be vegan, I just hope Muslims don’t hijack the word vegan to promote another one of their unsavory Islamic agenda. Vegans are after all is not synonymous to Muslims.

  5. To add on to my post above, halal and vegan is not the same thing.
    Halal means pork free only while vegan means totally meat free.

    • Actually, halal also means to slaughter animals in a particular way, under religious authority.

      And halal slaughter is generally very cruel.

      Kosher slaughter is related. In my opinion, the kosher slaughter ritual should be brought under the normal animal cruelty laws of a country and should not have a religious exemption. I believe religious exemptions are a specific, obvious, violation of the first amendment, which makes government neutral to religious practices.

      • Cruel, primitive people such as Muslims who tend to go to the extreme to promote their Islam or whatever agenda/causes would find it difficult to convince us nonbelievers who are already uncomfortable with anything that is even remotely associated with Muslims and Islam.

        I would never buy their Islamic nonsense.

  6. I also wish to add that this hijabi woman in this commercial makes it sounds so sinister to be a vegan.

    Of course it is not sinister to nibble or to be a vegan but the idea of it being promoted by a Muslim just sound so sinisterly pro-Islamic.

    Personally, I would only eat it if there were no other choice.

  7. I know I’ve posted this before on the subject of the mentally debilitating Vegan Syndrome diet but I’m posting it again because I’m of the opinion that it’s important to understand why they have to keep so desperately shouting about it.

    ”We Homo sapiens sapiens are omnivores, not herbivores. Our metabolisms require proportionate amounts of both vegetable matter and animal protein to function at a level of efficiency determined by our evolution. Indeed, our teeth demonstrate this quite clearly, even perhaps to the point of such proportionality – 8 incisors, 4 canines, 8 premolars and 8 molars.

    And, it has long been understood how and why animal protein supplies us with essential amino acids which we do not metabolise ourselves (9 in total; histidine, isoleucine, leucine, lysine, methionine, phenylalanine, threonine, tryptophan, and valine). Two of those (aromatic) amino acids, tryptophan & phenylalanine, together with tyrosine, enable the synapses in our brains to function at optimum efficiency because they are biosynthetic precursors for the neurotransmitters serotonin, dopamine, and norepinephrine.

    Consequently, Vegans, many of whom are simply virtue signaling, deprive themselves of the benefits of animal protein and are on the whole somewhat retarded, of low intelligence, given to slow, turgid thinking and hence should not be permitted to have any say whatsoever in the way we nutritionally balanced members of our species choose to sustain our mental processes.”

    Not that I’m opposed to feeding Vegan roughage to Muslims, mind you, although I doubt if it can diminish their mental abilities any lower than their inbreeding has already accomplished.

    • We have an ethnos in the Muslim North Caucasus, with a large number of mutant oligophrenics with Phenylketonuria. So that they are not oligophrenic, they should be forbidden to eat meat. But is this possible for proud mountaineers! Which for a quarter of a century inspire megalomania and the thought of their invincibility.
      These peoples do not tolerate inter-ethnic marriages.


      I pretty well translate through the online translator of articles from English, may be you will translate from Russian.

      • Thank you, Елена. I have a very good translation of your link from the Russian plus the numbers. That’s a very serious and widespread case of regressive evolution through inbreeding, I quote:

        “…on the whole, this is about 320 patients per year for the whole of Russia. Compare with this southern region, where one patient for 330 people is 20 times more.”

    • Since vegans are usually lacking protein, they are often hungry. And fat, and unwell. You can eat lots of protein and fat without doing damage, but as soon as you add grains to the mix (which they do, in abundance. “Healthy” whole grains), your body stores them as fat.

      Finding meat that is not factory-farmed is the problem for those who live in urban areas.

  8. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz2livPNcCw
    Russian racist advertising.
    Note how the second driver prevents her from taking a taxi to a Russian taxi driver.
    My friend (woman) who lives in St. Petersburg when she orders a taxi always says that the driver should be Slav. In racist Russia, you can make such orders.
    I live in an old small Russian town, we have no such problem.

  9. Good or bad, being a vegan would be an alien concept for them just as abstaining from all the excesses that their Islamic communities is commonly associated with.

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