Death Threats and Declining Attendance at Tolerant, Inclusive Mosque in Berlin

We’ve written about the Turkish-German activist Seyran Ateş a couple of times recently. She is a “moderate” Muslim and an advocate for women’s rights who opened a mosque inside an evangelical church in Berlin. Her mosque is an “inclusive” one, where women may pray alongside men, and may enter unveiled.

At this point it doesn’t seem to matter whether Ms. Ateş’ initiative is in earnest, or is in fact an example of Islamic taqiyya: not only is she experiencing an increasing number of death threats, but attendance at her mosque is declining, because the threats from “extremists” make her congregants feel unsafe. It’s only a matter of time before the insurer of the church building reads the actuarial handwriting on the wall and pulls the plug on her project.

Many thanks to Nash Montana for translating this news report, and to Vlad Tepes for the subtitling:

Video transcript:

0:00   She stands for a liberal Islam.
0:03   The Berlin mosque of the Turkish-German women’s rights advocate
0:06   Seyran Ateş lets men and women pray together,
0:09   and women are admitted without hijab or burka.
0:12   But for all this, Seyran Ateş experiences a lot of hate,
0:15   so much so that she now needs 24/7 police protection.
0:18   The accusation by her conservative critics:
0:21   The visitors of her community are not Muslims.
0:24   Due to these threats, fewer and fewer people dare to visit her mosque.
0:27   The attacks such as the one in Barcelona absolutely
0:30   do have to do with Islam, says Seyran Ateş, most of all because
0:33   many of the attackers belong to mosque communities.
0:36   She therefore wants to fight against political, ideological Islam,
0:39   together with conservative orthodox fundamentalists,
0:42   as long as they are not violent. [Insert big belly laugh by translator]
 

11 thoughts on “Death Threats and Declining Attendance at Tolerant, Inclusive Mosque in Berlin

  1. Death Threats and Declining Attendance at Tolerant, Inclusive Mosque in Berlin

    Who’s kidding whom?

    Look no further than Recep Tayyip Erdoğan’s own words to realize that:

    These descriptions are very ugly, it is offensive and an insult to our religion. There is no moderate or immoderate Islam. Islam is Islam and that’s it.

    Regardless of her ostensibly noble intent, Seyran Ateş is, by definition, a flagrant Islamic blasphemer that occupies the same level of theological decadence (or worse!) as those hideous—very few in number—Ahmadiyya Muslims who [gasp!] admirably promote sincerely peaceful and honorable coexistence with this world’s other +FOUR BILLION unbelievers.

    Do the unpleasant math (with or without nuclear weapons added into the mix) to see where this—two billion non-nuclear versus four billion many nuclear—is heading. Feel free to prematurely incorporate Iran’s salivating lust for nuclear ascendancy and the overall nature of these statistics change not one whit.

    However well-intentioned and potentially progressive this woman’s goals may be, her blatant contradiction of thoroughly established doctrine (e.g., strict gender segregation) makes her a high profile target-of-opportunity—as in; jihadi magnet.

    There are countless more hundreds-of-millions of “devout” (i.e., brutally intolerant) misogynist fundamentalists spread across this planet who regard Seyran Ateş as an implacable foe with respect to maintaining Islam’s Iron-Age theocracy.

    Despite whatever seeming contradictions, any success for Seyran Ateş is utterly reliant upon a much larger-magnitude deconstruction of traditional Islam that requires intervention on a scale whose description that (even in a suggestive or speculative format) would likely violate the policies of this honorable website.

    ‘Nuff said.

    • The Ahmadiyya-Muslims are by no means peaceful, tolerant or moderate!

      While Sunni- and Shia-Muslims hate and pursue them (just like they hate each other), because the Ahmadiyya added their own prophets (ie. prophets without a revelation) to Muhammed (in Islam basically the last Prophet).
      They themselves not only follow every violent dogma of Islam (kill apostates, kill adulterers…) they also view western Christianity as the Islamic pendant to the False Prophet or Anti Christ at the end of time (Dajjal).
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Masih_ad-Dajjal#Ahmadiyya

    • I am living through the same kind of crap in a nursing home in middle Island , New York. No one cares. PRISON.

      • Win the war first. Geert Wilders somehow details a plan. It was a good plan. But Dutch people in general are too dumb. It will take a bloody war, then if the people sided with Wilders win the war, carry out the ban.

  2. Who really thought that was going to end well? Militants will always win out over peaceful people.

    • Since pacifists have more freedom of action in countries where traces of democracy survive, pacifism can act more effectively against democracy than for it.
      Objectively the pacifist is pro-Nazi.

      George Orwell, in “No, Not One” (1941)

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