We’ve posted in the past about German citizens who have fled the multicultural lunacy in their homeland and escaped to Hungary. The following article from F. de Souche tells the story of French expatriates who have migrated to Central Europe to escape the madness of Modern Multicultural France.
Many thanks to Ava Lon for the translation:
“Identitarian emigrants”: Exodus to the East to rediscover ethnic and cultural homogeneity
January 31, 2017
They are mechanics, surveyors, financiers… Young Frenchmen, some of them claiming to be “identitarian emigrants”, chose to go into exile in Poland or in Hungary, where people appreciate ethnic and cultural homogeneity.
One day in 2014, Romain, a 25-year-old from Lille, decided to leave France. Something did not suit him in this country where he grew up. A desire to go elsewhere, too. Then he took his motorcycle and his musical instruments. The former mechanic rolled aimlessly to the east, before stopping on a whim in Budapest. Today, he says he does not regret this serendipitous choice. He discovered retrospectively what increasingly troubled him in France: his cultural and ethnic diversity. Romain (who did not wish to give his surname) did not have a priori the community fiber. He says it without taboo: “Here, there is a homogeneity and I feel at home.” He is happy to live “with men of European origin, Catholics.”
How many of these young people, like Romain, decided to break away from a country that no longer felt like home? Within the French community that has settled in the countries of the East — and has been steadily growing in recent years — this discourse is becoming more and more frequent and open to the point of no longer being considered a fringe phenomenon. Several thousand French people have gone to live in these countries for a number of years. And among them it is not difficult, by simple word-of-mouth, to come into contact with expatriates who explain, without circumlocution, without embarrassment, and without apparent hatred, either, how this cultural question has germinated in their minds as evidence. Some people even claim to be “identitarian emigrants”.
Grégory Leroy, 31, has decided to live in Poland. He found a more uniform world, more in keeping with his aspirations. “I have traveled extensively, and I have learned that I am not a fan of multicultural countries,” he explains. “I think it’s important to encounter more people who look like us in the street, and this is the case here.” After growing up in Courbevoie (Hauts-de-Seine), he emigrated in 2012, following a tip supplied by one of his brother’s friends, who advised him to invest in Warsaw. He created Hussard, an “antiterrorist training” company that offers “a three-day initiation in the art of open warfare” and features on its website a martial discourse, resolutely in phase with that of the Polish right wing that is now in power.
“Coercive French legislation on legitimate defense and possession of weapons encourages the emergence of ultra-recidivist and ultra-violent delinquency whose extension is the jihadism.”…
Multiculturalism is clearly not the cup of tea for these atypical “expats.” Such is Gabriel (who prefers not to give his name). A native of Haute-Savoie, with a promising career in finance, this 35-year-old young man left France in 2005 and settled for ten years in Budapest. Without equivocation, he associates the quality of life he found there with the “cultural, even ethnic homogeneity” of his adopted country. “If you mix people too much, it does not work,” he says.
What exactly isn’t working in France, according to him? It only struck him, he said, in contrast with his new life, when he came back to his native land: “I realized that the insecurity of everyday life seemed normal to us.” He said he had the same impression every time: “It only takes an hour or two of being present in France to make this feeling of insecurity settle in again. Here, people are more civilized, they do not scream in the subway. They know how to behave.”
Grégory Leroy feels the same with each of his shuttles. In 2014, he was in an Ibis hotel in Courbevoie when a woman was assaulted just down the street. “No one intervened,” he says with regret. He was surprised by this scene, which according to him would be impossible in Poland. He has other anecdotes of this kind, he says. They lead him to an unprecedented conclusion: “Insecurity is a problem closely linked to multiculturalism. I think we steal less when we look alike.” Roman, the 25-year-old from Lille, justifies his Hungarian exile with the same argument. “There is mutual respect here,” he says. “There is less incivility; There might be some, but nothing compared with France.”…
The question of identity was subsequently introduced. In discourse, and sometimes in deeds. Romain, who traveled to Africa, England and Germany, reproached his country for denying attachment to the soil, to the land. “People have been detached from their land,” he said. In Hungary, for example, property tax does not exist. In France, the cost of housing, the desertification of the countryside, city life and the need for mobility in the labor market have created and strengthened individualism. Here I have the impression of being in the France of yesteryear, the one my grandparents told me about. But the young man, whose dream is to acquire a piece of cultivable land in the Hungarian countryside, refuses to be treated as someone nostalgic for the past. He defends himself, referring instead to ecological ideas.
Bruno Guillot also regrets a “lack of roots among the French”. An observation that he extends to the cultural field. According to him, it is the large migratory movements that are problematic. Even in Poland: “Here, there are many Ukrainian or Belarusian immigrants. One might think that it works because they are Slavs, but it doesn’t work! Although his Christian faith enjoins him to accept refugees, he fears especially the danger of too many, worries about the influx of all these migrants who, “unlike the French, have a tribal consciousness.” He fears that from now on, French identity, which is lacking affirmation in his eyes, will be eroded by other, more assertive identities…
Gregory Leroy turned the page on the Parisian scene. “Paris is more beautiful than Warsaw, but there is a heaviness in France, one feels that nothing is possible. Polish energy has definitely made up for this structural gap,” he assures us. To remain in place, Bruno Guillot temporarily renounced his job as a surveyor. He accepted a less exciting job. Then, to enhance the mundane, he plans to return to the Hexagon [France] for a short contract.
The young Catholic now defines himself as a “precursor of militant emigration”. In the near future he wants to create Franco-Polish neighborhoods around Warsaw, where other compatriots who may feel “ethnic malaise” can settle. Paradoxical for a man who deplores all forms of migration… He readily admits the contradiction between his status as a migrant and his identitarian claim. He replies that he takes language courses. He says he can perfectly feel Polish in the long term. For all are saying it: they love their native land, but do not intend to return.
In time of low security and open borders, uncivilised migrants will go for the most beautiful and plentiful: Like France and Paris for example.
Malmo also used to be one of the best cities to live in.
And then it all goes down – like from imperial Constantinople down to dirty Istanbul.
Hey, I’d like to live in France too- or at least I would have up until the last, oh, perhaps 20 years. I would have loved the multicultural experience!
Sadly, I can’t afford it.
Right-wing French immigrants in Poland will fit in relatively well.
Just like Poles fit in relatively well pretty much anywhere they go within the civilised world.
The differences aren’t that great.
The problems happen when the cultures are VERY different and the numbers of immigrants are very high.
The way I’d “do” immigration would be to consider three variables:
1) The native culture’s ability to integrate newcomers (some are better than others).
2) The difference between the immigrant’s culture and the native culture.
3) The total number.
1) is fixed for a given host country, by and large.
2) and 3) matter. For example, Norway and Sweden are relatively close culturally (minus immigrants), let’s assign it 0.9. Norway and Australia less so, but still relatively close, let’s assign it 0.8. Norway and Italy even less so, let’s assign 0.6. Norway and Thailand much less so, let’s assign 0.3. Let’s call this the “cultural coefficient” or “CC” for short.
I would thus say that total permissible immigration without disruption in the long term, would be something like:
(1-CC)*[number of immigrants] – to form an “effective” total.
Then work the rest in similarly. What I’m essentially getting at is that Norway can probably take 3x as many from Sweden as from Thailand without disruption (unless they’re far-left Swedes, in which case the proportion would reverse, or worse!).
Of course, extremely large numbers will overwhelm even compatible cultures. Think “retornados” in Portugal, or Poles in the UK (the problem isn’t Poles per se, but the very large numbers in some areas). This problem, however, isn’t all that serious – they resolve over a generation at most.
This kind of calculation is, of course, “racist” in today’s world. But actually, it’s really about culture.
Good idea, although your last paragraph is the biggest reason why this is unlikely to happen…
In today’s climate, perhaps the following would be realistic objectives?
Each application is decided individually.
Each application is also scrutinised for any forgeries/deception.
Since applications of many Enrichers contain forgeries, this will immediately elimunate large numbers of Enrichers from the immigration process…
As for the rest – give them a probation period. Say 1 year… give them accomodation in a town, watch their every move… any disappearing act, or bad behaviour, means that they’re in line for deportation.
Deportation would mean awaiting it in a closed facility – not be asked to turn up for an appointment, which inevitably would never happen…
To test for “bad behaviour” , honeytraps could be used… girls hired to walk in short skirts down a street, that kind of thing – if you get the picture? Any “inappropriate” behaviour could then immediately be caught on film and used as evidence.
Likewise any evidence of Islamism – which would have the same status, under law, as Nazism…
In parallel, an effort would be made to protect rights of free speech, especially for employees and artists/comedians… sacking an employee for an “inappropriate” Facebook post would have the same status as sacking them for their race or gender – unless that Facebook post was directly breaking rules of employment, such as divulging company secrets or bringing the company into disrepute, through attacking it. Political views would NOT be a permissible reason to fire any worker, unless the organisation was specifically political.
In parallel, every student at every school would be taught about free speech and freedom of expression. Why it’s important, and how it’s protected…
At the same time, abusing national symbols and the culture/heritage of a nation would be treated as an act of sedition, makin a citizen liable for expulsion.
As a result, over time more artists, comedians and, gradually, ordinary people would have the courage to say things they may currently not feel free to say… meaning that legislation to protect the host culture of any country becomes more realistic.
We may never be able to eliminate the problems completely, but we can at least work to reduce the damage, and take small steps to improve things.
I am suspicious of your analysis, thoughtful and thought provoking that it is. Japanese, Chinese, Korean,- even Thai- immigrants have, to the best of my knowledge, not been a problem in the USA. While Chinatowns have had their downside, I think in the US they have been far less hazardous to Americans’ health than urban black areas have been, at least since WW II.
The Asian groups I cited have simply sought a better life in the USA, even though the American cultural mileau was an alien one. Those people did not come with an ideology of supremacy, and, by and large, were grateful for the opportunities America offered. Overwhelmingly, Americans did not feel physically threatened by them, even if they did “talk, look, and act funny”. Very different to what we experience from Moslems today.
So give me an industrious, aspiring East Asian any day over some leftist Swede!
‘White flight’ affects all Western countries. Those who have woken early in the immigrant targeted cities can see the many problems such ‘immigration’ will eventually bring and choose to fan out into the countryside and beyond the known national border if necessary, and into other less affected countries to escape such intentional stupidity.
Those who have willingly and knowingly caused this to occur to their own kind have much to answer for.
Thanks for picking this up. I want to do this too–move from my messed-up homeland to a sane, normal country–and this gives me hope and guidance.
I can relate to how these young men feel. I worked in a factory last year for 6 months and it sure was an eye opener. Disgusting would be a polite word to use to describe the cafeteria and washrooms!
Some won’t wash their hands after using the restroom at my work.
I was born and raised in Amsterdam
but moved to Poland almost 9 years ago .
Here I learned what it means to live in a homogeneous society ,
I find it very pleasant and can only hope that things do not evolve
like in the western part of Europe .
My hopes are the same… although there certainly are forces in Poland trying to turn it into another Western European multi-kulti “paradise” (eg “Krytyka Polityczna”, “Gazeta Wyborcza” , the mayors of Gdansk, Poznan and Wadowice as well as possibly KOD and, lately, the mayor of Sopot).
How successful, or not, they end up being depends on us… as I wrote below, IMO it’s a good idea to get involved – initially, perhaps in some live debates and discussions, which are sometimes organised in cafes…
Poles like listening to outsiders, and Westerners… if, as your username suggests, you have an Indian background, you’d probably find that some of the more modern metropolitan crowd, inclined towards Western liberalism, will listen to you more, and get a perspective they may perhaps not expect to hear!
I believe that these people should be named ‘cowards’ instead of “identitarian emigrants”. Instead of leaving the country of their birth for balmier political climes, they should get involved, enter politics, create a mini-storm and ensure that their Nation is not just another `Multi-culti’ hell-hole.
They might claim that they are leaving because they have no voice; but when a million voices shout together, the noise they make cannot be ignored. All they would need is a transplant of a steely spine, and it may be remarkable what can be achieved
They concluded that their country reached the point-of-no-return maybe? As far as I’m concerned I believe that France and the UK already reached that point, with Germany not far behind now. Just make the birth calculations of Christians and moz in those countries, along with the current policies towards moz and you will see. Coward is a strong word. By definition then anybody who left the old continent for the Americas because they thought their homeland could not provide them the best opportunities were cowards?
I’m with you apart from “abusing national symbols”. I know Americans in particular get worked up about this (the insecurity of a relatively young nation?), but that’s all they are, just symbols.
Oddly the UK seems to have the most French immigrants (137,000 back in 2011); hope they can stay after Brexit.
I wouldn’t call anyone a coward, because calling someone a coward is often a form of mind control, forcing one into unwise actions.
But I’d say it is wise to abandon a sinking ship.
You might say “It is even wiser to repair the ship while you can” – but do these people have the capacity to repair it? If they do, do they know they have the capacity?
The locusts have no king, yet go they forth all of them by bands;
That might be because all locusts are united by common purpose!
Mankind needs a leader, or at least some leading idea, otherwise a million voices will shout an unintelligible noise.
Well, there you have it: I don’t think they are cowards, they are just reasonable individuals 🙂
“That might be because all locusts are united by common purpose!”
Ah yes, “Common Purpose”.
Leading beyond authority.
Who will be the 21st century Churchill?
The average ‘ patriotic thinker’ does not have the finances to get themselves involved in politics which can be quite expensive to kick off with. You must also realize that none of the major political parties anywhere throughout the West have been able to put up their own Donald Trump which I believe is due to party politics being paramount over individual patriotic principles which is solely to enforce the government agenda .
Too, those who raise their voice in protest at what governments have allowed to be done then become victims to the fascist state that is paid to enforce the ongoing ‘progressive’ but so very destructive agenda.
There is an obvious reason for why it is the outside political establishment parties that are now pulling in the votes and who are not beholden to the status quo Globalist agenda – it is because they are not part of the nation destroying political process.
I feel ambivalent about all this. On one hand, I am glad that western Europeans have a place to flee to. But on the other hand, with a large influx of non-Poles (including the people from Ukraine and Belarus that the young man thinks do not fit in), how long before Poland ceases to be Polish? But then, on the third hand… 🙂 Poland and the Baltic countries were emptying out because their own people fled west for more lucrative work. So… ? Maybe it makes strange sense after all.
In a way, it might be turning into a “sortation” of sorts, rather than an immigration.
I’m sure very few left-wing lunatic Western Europeans are moving East, for example…
Sorry to burst your hopes, but leftists are moving East. See my post below…
As for Ukrainians in Poland, we’ve had them before in past eras, and I’m sure we can coexist again. (Although previously, in WW2, it ended in a blodbath, with up to 500,000 Poles being slaughtered by Ukrainian nationalists).
The biggest enemy though is political correctness and pseudo-tolerant leftism, of the type we see everywhere in the West… multi-kulti can help bring that about, but it doesn’t need to. Eg Finland up until recently was quite homogenous, but very PC. Whereas India or Russia are highly diverse, but very un-PC…
I keep telling people what I witnessed in warsaw once. I were walking behind a group of ukrainians. They stopped at the red light were other group of ukrainians was waiting. Do you know how they greeted each other? Slawa ukrainie. Gierojom slawa. They didnt even know each other.
You think ukrainians are better than muslims, but they are not. Once they feel comfortable in poland,theyll do what they’ ve always promised:second wolyn
I often thought of Poland as a kind of haven for like-minded Westerners, when the proverbial really does hit the fan in their home countries… in that aspect, I’m happy that they’ve to Poland. My advice would be to try and get involved in the Polish political/media scene. Poles look up to Westerners and their “more enlightened” world-view – so Westerner immigrant patriots could really make an impact!
My only doubts are about the trendy lovers of multi-kulti who are also making their way East… They do exist, in significant numbers, and I recently discovered just how illiberal these “liberals” can be, when they kicked me off a Warsaw online forum for making some (polite) remarks questioning their hysteric stance regarding Poland not taking in refugees.
So expect also some shock and horror in the right-on expat community… although there should be plenty of Poles willing to back you up if the hysteria were to get really bad!
I hope the ones who make it to Budapest bring some money. That metropolitan jewel is waiting for smart entrepeneurs with cash to rehab those shabby but beautiful, irreplaceable Art Deco buildings and make that city the “Miami” of Eastern Europe on the Danube.
I was there some time ago – there are certainly plenty of foreigners, and plenty of money… the cash machines suggested a minimum withdrawal amount of 100,000 forints (around 400 dollars). In the evening, some streets were so crowded you could hardly get through, and there were plenty of tourists, especially Brits on stag parties, and plenty of ladies offering them their “services”… (Which they also offered to me and my friends, on one occasion).
I’m sure a good deal of money is being left behind, although wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of it were ending up in the ” underground” economy…
True but the previous post Soviet governments so mismanaged the economy that it was a basket case on life support with dismal accomplishment for local wealth creation. Perhaps the new government will gin it up but its a beautiful city with a down at the heels shabby look ie pre EU Madrid.
I did something similar 8 yrs ago when moving to the west of Ireland (easier than Poland for us but maybe not better in the long run, if Irish people keep listening to their medias ‘explaining away’ what is happening on the continent through the lens of ‘racism’ and other b.s….). I didn’t move straight away, I tried to do what I could first in my country (Belgium) but… The system is well locked, and there is really not even a ‘free speech culture’, so even talking about facts can get you into trouble, even with friends…
Some people commented that by emigrating I was in fact leaving the ship and becoming an immigrant myself. True. But I prefer to feel like a foreigner in another country than in my own. And at least I feel like I’m in Europe here, something different than most of the time spent in public transportation for about 10yrs in Bruxelles.
In recent years I met here a couple of other folks (e.g. young French families) who made the same choice for the same reasons.
Terrible to say, but our ‘best hope’ is that things get so out of control and so quickly that the UE implodes and the less affected countries can get some common sense policies…
I left Detroit MI for the rural KY mountains in 1979. Liberals, Democrats, Leftists have largely made a war zone of Detroit City. Bankruptcy, Educational decline, joblessness, drug trafficking, single-parent delinquency & crime, unionism, cultural Marxism have laid waste to any desire to return. Waves of emigrees have continued to benefit
They can return as part of the Eastern Army that crushes the French and English Caliphates at a later date. If they are bored they can return for brief stints of combat practice during the upcoming civil war.
If the gov sees sense and installs a UAE style residence system converting all citizen Muslims to residents before that happens things may be resolved relatively peacefully.
In UAE no non-Muslims become citizens. Residents (max visa length 3 years) cannot sponsor male children past 18 as residents unless they (the children) are employed.
Periodically foreign workers are purged (expelled) by a process called Emirisation (UAE is made up of a number Emirates). Emirisation requires certain job classes have a proportion of locals employed in preference to foreigners (by law) and this proportion tends to increase over time.
There are not many places in the world left to go to that do not admit third world invaders in annually and seek to maintain their culture and traditions. Sometimes on German blogs I read about people considering coming here to the US for relief which I find odd. Unless you live in a rural area, you are going to see the same multi-culti, crime problems in American citites- just maybe not to such an extreme, as we don’t let in as many as you guys do each year. But you will still be worried at large events, shopping malls, etc in big American cities and you always will be checking your back in parking lots, etc.
I live in a rural area because my husband wanted to move here and had bought this land before I knew him. It is pretty and we built a beautiful home but my lifestyle is very un-European on every front. This does not bother typical Americans who do not know what they are missing, but if you have ever lived in European cosmopolitan areas or even quaint rural Euro rural villages– you will most likely be sorely disappointed with the quality of life here. You had better like hunting, guns, church going, never dressing up, commercial farming and being excluded for not having lived here for 3 generations. These people have their family names on the town street signs and they are all one generation removed from farming and they all know each other. People here are very handy and can do any and everything, which is nice. But it is quite sloppy here compared to rural Europe. Many, not all do not keep their large estates tidy. This will turn off Germans as it is disheartening. If I were a German or Austrian with a young family, where would I go today? Probably Eastern Europe as well –where my grand dad came to the US from as a boy. Who knows, maybe I could look up some old, lost relatives I never knew I had– and feel instantly at home!
DM said: “…They can return as part of the Eastern Army that crushes the French and English Caliphates at a later date. If they are bored they can return for brief stints of combat practice during the upcoming civil war. …”
You said “can”, I say “will” or “have to”. The upcoming civil. There will not be one but several, of varying intensity, which then will melt into one large scale civil war.
It will take time and the M’s will win the first, if not the first few rounds. And it will be messy.