54 thoughts on ““This is the Start of the Conflict Between Civilisations””

1. What drives Angela Merkel that she did not foresee,

   “German society will never be the same again.
   “(Germany) is deeply divided and fragmented.
   “Organized crime; drugs; trade in women, children, organs, guns.
   “This is all in front of us.”

   Very enlightening conversation. Thank you.

   • I agree. True in TV Poland. Is big problem in Germany and in EU. Thank you

   • “I have the impression that we will be returning often to this topic”

     Oh yeah.

     How refreshing. One trembled at the prospect at what Dr El Ghamari was going to say, given her surname. The Magdelena first name offered a hint of what might actually come. It turned out to be a competition between two panelists who could only agree with and endorse the other’s position. Whilst the interviewer tried to inject a little PC guff into the exchange, the poor dear failed.

   • It was entirely predictable and I find it very hard to believe Merkel and fellow travelers in the EU did not know exactly what would happen- which leads to some very uncomfortable conclusions about which path our so-called leaders, wish to take Europe down.

     Die Welt published a leaked document last year, it succinctly predicts Germany’s descent into civil strife.
     http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/6793/germany-20-million-muslims
     http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article148000968/Sicherheitsexperten-entsetzt-ueber-deutsche-Politik.html
     Soren Kern reported that it
     “reveals growing alarm within the highest echelons of Germany’s intelligence and security apparatus about the consequences of Chancellor Angela Merkel’s open-door immigration policy.

     The so-called non-paper (the author of the document remains anonymous) warns that the “integration of hundreds of thousands of illegal migrants will be impossible given the large numbers involved and the already-existing Muslim parallel societies in Germany.”

     The document adds:

     “We are importing Islamic extremism, Arab anti-Semitism, national and ethnic conflicts of other peoples, as well as a different understanding of society and law. German security agencies are unable to deal with these imported security problems, and the resulting reactions from the German population.”

     “The high influx of people from other parts of the world will lead to the instability of our country. By allowing this mass migration, we are producing extremists. Mainstream society is radicalizing because the majority does not want migration, which is being forced by the political elites. In the future, many Germans will turn away from the constitutional state.”

     • When you play dodge ball and you’re in the middle, you should realize that you are a target.

2. OMG — the numbers waiting in the wings! It’s a horror. Khaddafi’s revenge.

3. Still too mild a response, even in Poland. Those interviewed responses of those interviewed do not reflect the gravity of this dire situation. Of course we must remember that these are academics and academics are notoriously removed from Reality.

   The man appears to be too timid to follow his predictions through to their logical conclusions. And the women is soft-pedaling her assessments; given her name, she might have a Muslim background and perhaps this is the reason.

   • Perhaps it may surprise you, but Polish TV has been overwhelmingly pro-refugee over the past year. A friend who travels often between Britain and Poland watches TV regularly in both countries. He says that while in Britain, the BBC sometimes showed images of rowdy migrants in Calais breaking down fences and the doors of lorries, in Poland (on Polish state TV) it was all about crying women and children just trying to find a safe haven. Yes – even the BBC were more objective!

     The overwhelming Polish opposition to accepting “refugees”, including its influence on recent elections (IMO the crucial factor), came in spite of overwhelming media bias, not because of it.

     Hence my friend was very surprised when I showed him this video clip, before I translated it. He said he would never expect such an honest discussion on Polish state TV.

     • Maybe that is the reason why Poland now is being threatened by EU – for tightening their media laws?

       • Funny because when the TV board was full of the previous government’s cronies, with the same happening to the constitutional court, the silence was deafening… and now, somehow all the liberals, leftists and PC pro-EU “modernists” want to defend democracy!

         Not sure why now Poland is in Brussels’ firing line. Some say it was because various liberal politicians and media celebrities went to Brussels and western media to wail about what was happening in their homeland. Or maybe the EU comission had it in for Poland. I don’t know – probably a bit of both.

         All I know, having spent 8 of the past 10 years living there, is:

         A) The liberals have a near-monopoly on public and private “mainstream” media (except for a few niche TV stations, papers and magazines).

         B) EU money is being pumped into the country (of which a lot is going to waste). Hence even un-PC, straight-thinking Poles are worried about the new government, fearing it will give the country a bad image, and that hence maybe the gravy train will stop.

         C) It’s the older Poles attending demonstrations against the government and for “democracy” – while younger Poles support “far right” parties (ie even more Right than the current government!). This bemuses older Poles, and makes them think that the young are “ignorant” – although I’ve noticed that, among my friends who support the “Far right”, a lot more have spent time in exotic Western places such as East London, Birmingham, Milton Keynes or southern Sweden, than those with more liberal views… hence I’m beginning to suspect that they may even get “radicalised” by living and working in such places!

4. The problem is not difficult: just say no to Muslim immigrants and expel those there.

   Fences.

   Criminal prosecution for all who facilitate this trafficking. It’s not exactly hidden.

   If the come over on boats, shoot them out of the water.

   Prosecute journalists who bypass the law.

   • You’ve got my vote! All Europeans are still far, far too lovey-dovey with these invaders, they still don’t see what is needed.

     We are NOT our brothers’ keepers; masochistic Europeans seem to have this ridiculous guilt complex which demands they take in, feed, house and lavish benefits on these most useless of people, failures in their own countries, but not too stupid to take advantage of moronic, naïve, Europeans.

     We all know by now (or should) that there is no way out of the present situation without violence, ergo, better now than later, when the enemy will be even stronger, as the late, great Winston told us; on the other hand, the European need to be armed, and that may take time.

     It would be nice if European police would remember who they are and protect their own people–not happening. And the big one–what about the military in Europe, if indeed they still exist.

     • The NATO members in Europe won’t fire one round into the invaders. I’m scared that the French nukes could end up in jihadi hands.

       • The Germans have no no intention
         of fighting,,,
         My son was in the US Navy in 2010 and went into joint US/Med drills with the German Navy. You could eat off the floors of the German Mavu as they have never been deployed.
         Do you think they would actually employ themselves to stop the invasion? Do you actually think the German Navy would step up to stop this? I don’t

         • Perhaps this is the excuse for Germany to fight at the front of N.A.T.O.’s future operations globally, seeing off the “threats” to Huntingdon’s West?

           I am not sure that necessarily is a good thing i.e. more war.

           Be careful what you wish for.

       • Yep. If the worst comes to the worst, I hope that the last sane European “turns off the lights”, including making sure that any nukes are useless to the new rulers.

         Alas, I fear that’s not likely, and that any “takeover” may happen more in the style of Michel Houllebecq’s book “Submission”, rather than through any shots being fired.

         Why fight when you can take power through elections? And in the case of London, such a “takeover” may happen as soon as this May – with Britain’s postal voting system also “enhancing” the importance of the Muslim vote.

     • The worst aspect of this Islamic take over is that our own leaders enable it, Police acquiesce to political instruction ignoring national law; not that muslims try to take over – their cultural background and beliefs predestine them to this course of action.

       • I doubt that your scenario is possible. If they can’t manage in their own 3rd world nations, I don’t think that miraculously they will be able to transform into levels befitting the German football team.

         • No, they are in general too big o an uneducated rabble to take over Western societies in any meaningful way. But, in their delusion of thinking of themselves as ‘the best of people’ – they will give it a good old go. Until they realise the futility of their actions.

   • And yet the British are more concerned with banning Donald Trump than banning fake, dangerous ‘refugees’!!

5. Anarcho-Tyranny.

   The acts of evil men are ignored by the law while trifling infractions by the innocent are crack down on.

   That just about sums up the situation from Ferguson to Cologne from San Bernadino to Bataclan. From Governor LePage to Mayor Reker.

6. My only question is when do the car bombs start going off, and the direct societal threat, Sharia or die?

   • The first port of call should be to hold to account those who created this calamitous situation, negligently or otherwise. We cannot have such civilisation destroying events as this happening repeatedly to humanity. After this the external threat could be dealt with once, rather than remaining a potential threat. Get our own house in order, then deal with the threat. Then humanity can get on with – human progress.

   • The German Jews who would not listen. In 1939 it was still time as usual in the hotels and wherever. “This will all blow over.” The Germans and everywhere else is still brain lock. Mass protest just amuses the Muslims as do the fools on the Hill.

7. Matt, I really appreciate your thinking, writing and expertise. So this is not meant to be provocative: but I vaguely remember that during the 1970s the PLO was exploding bombs in Parisian cafes; the French managed to appease them in part by turning against Israel.

   I’m just thinking out loud so to speak. I suppose it’s a very different situation now due to the overwhelming numbers of migrants and the expressed intentions of carrying out violent Jihad by ISIS and others. But I never underestimate the ability of the French (and now perhaps the Germans) to appease.

   • Appeasement is never a long term solution, just a stay of execution.

   • The problem is you can’t “appease” without compromise, and what are you ready to compromise, with the kind of people that are opposing the western world these days? You’d have to let go of some of the most important things in western civilisation, particularly concerning women’s rights or the right to have any religion you want. Those people do not want compromise anyway, they come from a totally different perspective on things and want express domination.

   • Italian PM Aldo Moro had a deal with Yassir Arafat to let PLO ops move and store weapons freely in Italy, in exchange for no attacks in Italy.
     In the mid-80’s a wave of bombings prompted France to demand visas from everyone who wasn’t an EEC or Swiss citizen.
     I think it isn’t so much a desire to appease as just plain fear.
     Many of those politicians have probably been threatened, personally and directly.
     And none of them are made from the kind of stuff that could stand up to something like that.
     Just look at them, and you know.

     • The Turks accuse the French of similar things with regard to Kurdish & Armenian terrorists.

   • > the French managed to appease them in part by turning against Israel.

     So, to appease the “New Europeans”, who will the ruling elites turn against this time . . . their native populations? Oh, wait! They’ve already done that.

     There is nothing left to sell out.

8. Conflict? Yes.
   Civilizations plural? No.
   An ideology that authorises daughter-killing, stoning, amputations, genital mutilation, forced child marriage at nine, bestiality, deception, and more is not a civilization.
   The conflict is between civilization and barbarism.

   • So true. And sad.

   • This conflict is not new, either, it has been raging since the very founding of Islam. All of the areas now dominated by Islam (except for Indonesia) used to be Christian. They were conquered at the point of a sword.
     Islam is yet again attempting to invade Europe yet again after being repulsed the last time outside the city of Vienna by the King of Poland in 1683. This time around they are invading with refugees, who in large part happen to be military age males. And the countries of Europe are welcoming them (at least officially they are).

     • Not just Indonesia. Persia was Zoroastrian. Afghanistan was Buddhist. India was Hindu and Buddhist. And Africa south of the Sahel was a hotch-potch of pagan beliefs (exception: Ethiopia, which was Christian).

9. Yesterday a senior German Constitutional Judge ruled that Frau Merkel had committed an “historic breach of the law” in throwing Germany’s borders open to the third world. Under German Constitutional law German citizens can defend themselves and most importantly the nation too. Her actions, either through sheer stupidity or sheer cupidity, therefore should result in severe consequences for her.
   Should she be impeached?
   Can the victims of the NYE sex attacks sue her and her party/govt?
   Can the rest of the EU nations now bill Germany for costs incurred in defending their own borders due to her rash statements?
   Can the rest of the EU nations now bill Germany for costs incurred in for
   Hosting third leeches already in their countries they cannot get rid of?
   Will she now stop lecturing and threatening the rest of the EU for not accepting anymore third world young male chances?
   Should the EU and in particular Germany not take this golden opportunity to rid themselves of this stupid woman once and for all there is indeed a hidden agenda to islamise the continent which we need to be told about.
   For more info see Breitbart News.

10. “They’re not refugees. This is an invasion.”
    Bishop Laszlo Kiss-Rigo, Hungary

11. I’m surprised how circumspect they are. They won’t even utter the word ‘Islam’. They won’t describe what the ‘Muslim’ animals did. They seem more politically correct than the most virulent feral Leftist. What gives? Why aren’t they calling a spade a spade? Are they terrified of being disciplined? I’ve watched 10 minutes and nothing is stated unequivocally. This is ridiculous, pathetic. I thought Poland was different.

    • Polish media is not different.. if anything, Polish mainstream media is more pro-refugee than in, say, Britain. Yes, 95% of Poles may be against the country accepting “refugees” (as recent polls suggest), but it’s not because of the media.

      • I actually laughed when the news host said he knew two Syrians, doctors, that had assimilated…

        I guess he met two of the four Syrian doctors in Poland!

        Really, the idea that the best and brightest are coming out of the MENA to assimilate in European culture is laughable. Actually, not so funny but, that leftist meme is pure twaddle and the people know it for the lie that it is. What was the old Soviet saying?”We pretend to work and they pretend to pay us?”

        The vast majority are benefit shoppers as anyone that has watched the countless videos here or at Vlad’s site knows.
        I do have to say that taking people from a desert environment and placing them in Lapland, now that is funny! Let’s take a population and place them in an environment where the sun doesn’t shine for months at a time and let’s see what happens… You couldn’t make this stuff up!

        • Lappland is the right location for when Ramadan falls in the summer months

        • There’s quite a few foreign doctors in Poland. Also from the time when the Communist bloc considered “non-aligned” 3rd world states, including Baathist Syria, to be “brother countries”. During those years, a lot of Poles also went to work in places like Iraq (hence during Gulf War 1, Polish special forces were able to “blend in” with these workers and rescue some US prisoners).

          These though are actual doctors – not the masses of “doctors” that the likes of the Guardian report as being among the “refugees” (somehow, they always manage to find doctors!).

          Back in September, there was an interview in a Polish online magazine with the head of one of Warsaw’s largest chains of Kebab restaurants – a Syrian. He warned Poland against taking in Syrian refugees, as he was worried that they’d ruin Syrians’ image. He also mentioned that actual doctors, and other intelligentsia, could easily have a far higher standard of living if they went to other parts of the Arab world – eg Lebanon, Egypt, Tunisia – not to mention the Gulf states! Hence, the question – why would they need to risk their lives aboard a dinghy to Lesbos?

12. I’ll never understand this. Entering a country without permission is illegal. Detain the first few thousand for a day & immediately deport them. Fine them and expropriate the funds from whatever they’re carrying. If they can’t pay the fine, put them to work on chain gangs. Make it painful! Make it unappealing to enter Europe. Grow a spine and start acting like people with basic common sense. Fight back.

    • If it was really illegal, then surely the legal authorities would apply the law?

13. Bring back the death penalty and make many offenses punishable by execution. Watch attitudes change overnight. ANY sort of bodily assault should be immediately punishable by execution. Relax the rules of evidence. This could be stopped very swiftly, very easily, very morally. But it won’t be. Maybe this is what Europe wants, in a passive-aggressive self-hating psychodrama sort of way. If they won’t even pass sensible laws and take normal precautions … such fetid weakness invites aggression.

    • Bringing back the death penalty would diminish the civilisation we Europeans hold dear (well, some of us). No offence to Americans here, but on this issue you are really behind the times by several decades.

      • …and denying the teachings of Jesus, unless I’ve missed something?

        • Yes, you’ve missed A LOT. Try reading the New Testament. Start with Matthew Five. Jesus says to love your neighbor…NEIGHBOR.

        • Ha ha. We are already massively diminished as a civilization. Hadn’t you noticed? Maybe when the cars, trucks and buildings filled with true believers in the wisdom of all the great teachers – Jesus included – start blowing up , you will give the death penalty and whatever it takes a second thought.

          • Good people everywhere would stand up for civilisation everywhere i.e. not destroying cars, trucks & buildings in any place.

            Treating the “Other” with dehumanisation makes it easier to destroy them, & it turns the vicious cycle faster & faster, till we are all spun off our respective mortal coils.

      • No offense to Europeans, but your repeal of the death penalty is working about as well as disarming your citizens. Not all crimes are solved by serving time in prison. Ask any father whose child has died horribly at the hands of some pervert…

        Europe is unmanned, except for a small minority which the governments are busy hunting down. The obedient ones are searching in their underwear for the missing family jewels. They certainly aren’t passing them on – unless you count those they let immigrants steal.

14. Edit

    Between Civilization and Barbary

15. “Jeszcze Polska nie zginęła,
    Kiedy my żyjemy.
    Co nam obca przemoc wzięła,
    Szablą odbierzemy.”

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    “Poland has not yet perished,
    So long as we still live.
    What the alien force has taken from us,
    We shall retrieve with a sabre.”

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    “Mazurek Dąbrowskiego” (“Poland is Not Yet Lost”),
    the national anthem of Poland

    • This ought to tell you a lot about Polish history and foreign invaders!

16. “It’s our duty to help these immigrants” Why? what islamic country ever helped anyone who was not islamic. When they do help they supply weapons to help muslims slaughter their enemies. Of course the Gulf states fund mosques and islamic universities to promote islam. Nothing is done by them to help non-islamic people anywhere. Nice muslims can turn into monsters very quickly have you ever see an extremist Jehovah Witness or Amish now they’re peaceful, I don’t agree with them but they’re peaceful, unlike the religion of peace.

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