Iraqi in Finland Says: 70% of Iraqi “Refugees” Are Tourists

An Iraqi who lives in Finland has a low opinion of the current flood of “refugees” into the country. His attitude is similar to that of the migrant in Berlin who wants Germany to stop admitting any more immigrants. Except this guy presumably speaks better Suomi than the other fellow did English.

Many thanks to KGS for the translation, and to Vlad Tepes for the subtitling:


0:00   Now we will go and meet with an Iraq (Baghdad) born Marwan Hussein
0:04   who will tell us how safe he feels Iraq is these days.
0:12   Marwan, you came to Finland in 2008?
0:14   Yes
0:15   What kind of story does your family have?
0:18   Well when my father was shot to death, we moved to Damascus in Syria and…
0:23   When was this?
0:24   This was in 2007, yes 10th of June in 2007.
0:34   In Finland it has been decided that asylum seekers
0:38   from Iraq will not be handed asylum so easily.
0:40   What do you think of the fact that some of the Iraqi refugees
0:43   will be returned back to their home country more easily than before?
0:45   Yes, they need to be deported because they do not have a need to be here.
0:50   Is that what you think?
0:52   Yes I do.
0:54   I have spoken to asylum seekers amongst others, and
0:58   it can be said that around 70%
1:02   do not have a real need to seek refuge.
1:06   They live in peace in the southern part of Iraq.
1:10   It is pretty safe there.
1:12   Why do they come here then?
1:15   Well, because of the money.
1:17   They think that they will get easy money from the social welfare office,
1:22   when it’s actually just some support money to help them land a job.
1:26   So there’s a misconception of some sort?
1:28   Yes. And the first people who came here,
1:32   heard from one man that they get €1,500
1:36   from the social office per month.
1:42   This is a misconception, because in reality that money was earned by doing a job,
1:46   not handouts.
1:48   When you tell them this, they do not believe you.
1:56   So some of them have misconceptions indeed.
2:00   If they were to be returned, could they live a good life in Iraq?
2:04   Yes they do even now, they still have jobs there,
2:07   they took a temporary vacation.
2:09   and when they get a residency permit,
2:12   Then they go back; there are still jobs there,
2:17   and apartments and everything there.
2:20   They are tourists here in Finland.

8 thoughts on “Iraqi in Finland Says: 70% of Iraqi “Refugees” Are Tourists

  1. Hmmmmm. I thought it was 100%. Also the only real refugees to anywhere outside Muhammadan slaughterhouse ganglands are the remnants of the original Christian and Jewish owners. Oh well I guess one may as well be talking to the wall. The offspring of our current population will understand when it’s their turn to take refuge God knows where.

  2. The Chinese are doing the same in the USA and Australia – buying up bolt-holes. It has adversely affected the price of real estate by driving it sky-high and there has now been a backlash. A similar backlash took place in Australia towards the boat refugees and the government shipped them all to the uninviting island of Nauru (I think it is). The word has gone out that Australia does not welcome refugees and the numbers have dropped.

    This is the solution! Establish massive refugee camps of a temporary nature in some remote area and incarcerate them there -establishments preferably run by Correctional Services!

    • Chinese buying also in places like Vancouver, Canada and Auckland, New Zealand.
      Price of houses and apartments are going at record levels, particularly when compared to the usual standard of 3-4 years average wages to soaring over 10 years of average wage, thus pricing the newbie local buyer out of the market. Makes sort of unsettling politics, as with new trade agreements very difficult to even slow down.
      Australia had managed to get a rule in place that a foreign borrower cannot buy an existing house, so can only buy a section and build a new house.

      Paying Nauru Island for having an installation there for refugees.
      An Aussie island, Christmas Island, far of the coast of Australia.
      Paying Papua New Guinea for Manus Island which before Independence in 1975 was a naval base for Australia and a forward base for the Allies during WW2.

      Very interesting is when Australia up holds its laws and will not let any boat people land in Australia, the drownings go down to Zero.
      When an easier government rescues and retrieves refugees on to the mainland, then drownings can soar well into the hundreds.

      A new rule being enforced by Australia now, is that any one immigrant , unless an Aussie citizen which takes quite a few years, will be deported if they ever serve a total time of one year in jail. It could be a number of crimes, or just one. If they do not accept deportation then moved to one of those detention centres.

      New Zealanders who have even arrived as a 2 year old and commit a crime and serve a sentence of more than 1 year when they are 30 or 40 are being rounded up to be deported and if they dispute it, even though they may be have wife and family in Australia are off to the island detention centres. Seems like appeals take a very long time, and at this stage I do not know if there is any success.

      • DiMu,

        “Australia had managed to get a rule in place that a foreign borrower cannot buy an existing house, so can only buy a section and build a new house.”

        With respect I’m not sure where you obtained this information from. It is not correct: eg, the last three C19th mansions in my Australian suburb, dominated by three storey apartment buildings from the 1920’s, 30’s, 60’s and 80’s have been bought by Chinese people who admittedly may be citizens, but even if they were not, there are ways of getting around it by using a proxy buyer.

        And even if you were correct, restricting
        the sale of real estate to new “sections” only – your use of the term “section” instead of “allotment” or “lot”, conveys that you are evidently a New Zealander, as almost all of my family have lived for several decades in New Zealand and use the term “section” – this still pushes up the cost of housing generally.

        It is true that in Sydney the average (not median) house price is at least 10 years of average annual earnings when it used to be 3 years prior to 1987.

        As to your contentions regarding Australia’s deportation regime for convicted criminals, I would be truly grateful if you could supply a source because it does not accord with my knowledge: even if deportation orders are sometimes made, enforcement is lax.

        • Rules for buying, far from perfect and as you mention can always be got around, though as you mention, could be citizens or by proxy buyers for foreign investors. Makes the politicians look good, to be seen to be doing something.
          Would be interesting to know how many houses are being built by Chinese investors.

          What I really do not like is that the bureaucracy and politicians are very happy saying how much improvements are being done in buildings, compliance for sustainability and environment, being wrought by these foreign investors that buy in at prices that locals can not make a return on, and who would be slower to do major upgrades.
          It seems they do not mind how much money they loose, as it is better to have a bolt hole, or even a value of just 50c in the $ or even much less. I believe questions could also be asked of some, just how was that capital gained? legitimately?

          NZ has again had another record of immigration for a year
          from stuff media newspapers

          then deportations

          Under changes to the Australian Migration Act in December, Australian officials have the power to cancel the visas of suspected or convicted criminals, particularly those sentenced to more 12 months’ jail or more, or found guilty of sex offences.

          from kiwiblog

        • About 40 kiwis have ended up at Christmas Island, as they flat refuse to fly over the ditch to NZ.

          Probably get some “legal aid”
          Once returned to NZ very doubtful to gain aussie legal aid, though they could apply for a visa and wait and see.
          For Aussie’s sake I hope that other miscreants are being rounded up too ! ! and not the soft touch kiwis 🙂

  3. “Establish massive refugee camps of a temporary nature in some remote area …”

    The problem is, once you establish a stable area, however uninviting, there will be a portion of the population satisfied to simply loaf there, and in a year or two, you’ll have a mass of people on permanent welfare who have neither the skills nor the inclination to move on. Further, they will be subject to radical ideologies (like mainstream Islam, when taken seriously) and will be a danger to any society that allows them access, just like the “Palestinians”.

    It’s better to have an immediate exit for all people trying to enter illegally. They discard their identity papers, so in the case of such people, I would say they should be assumed to be citizens of some country ruled by a compliant despot who can be bribed to accept random refugees. What he does with them after they land is his business.

    Probably what would happen is a few hundred people would be murdered right off, and the total loss of life would turn out to be less than the number of drownings that now occur. Anyway, it is not in the interest of any country to have a permanent crowd of violent, unskilled people with no foreseeable way out.

  4. I can confirm this. A former Iraqi refugee told my ex that many of them are indeed but tourists and often not poor. One asked him when he would start getting his “wage”. So when asked whether he then had a job, he said no. Apparently he got the idea he would immediately get a job. When pointed out that he’d get around 800 euros per month, he asked whether the house would be paid for. When pointed out again from that 800 he’d have to pay rent and that the remainder he could use on food and whatever, the guy said that’s little. In Finland they get more.

    Many of these people are probably coming here for just a few months/years to get benefits and intend to go back with the money they make here from benefits/”jobs”. Of course that will never happen.

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