Geert Wilders: “Stand for Your Own People, Your Own Culture!”

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The following debate took place in the Dutch parliament on Thursday, September 10. Geert Wilders, the leader of the Party for Freedom (Partij voor de Vrijheid, PVV), spoke out strongly against the current government’s policy of admitting more “refugees” from the Middle East. Mr. Wilders was, as usual, vigorously opposed by left-wing members of parliament.

Pay special attention to what Jesse Klaver of the GreenLeft party (GroenLinks) had to say. Mr. Klaver was quite forthright in his insistence that “we” — that is, the political leaders and citizens of the Netherlands — were responsible for alleviating the suffering of everyone, everywhere. Furthermore, the only possible palliative for the misery of the masses in the Third World must be for them to be brought to the Netherlands and other European countries, where they can be ministered to by decent, caring, progressive people — the opposite of the cruel, cold-hearted Geert Wilders. The welfare of the Dutch people must be secondary — the refugees come first.

So this is what we have descended to. Mr. Wilders seems to be a lone voice of sanity in a desert of progressive madness, but there are indications that the majority of ordinary citizens now agree with him, not just in the Netherlands but also in the rest of Europe.

Many thanks to H. Numan for the translation, and to Vlad Tepes for the subtitling:

Transcript:

00:01   Madame Chairman, it’s an uncomfortable truth, but it must be told.
00:14   We’re talking today about an invasion.
00:17   An Islamic invasion of Europe, of The Netherlands.
00:22   Lots of young men about 20 years old with beards roam, often singing, through Europe.
00:28   It’s an invasion threatening our welfare, our security, our culture and our identity.
00:34   The worthless paper plan sent to this Parliament by the cabinet won’t solve the problems we’re facing.
00:44   Chairman, what are the facts?
00:47   The fact is, the borders remain wide open.
00:50   Also a fact: many refugees aren’t pitiful refugees, but economic refugees.
00:57   Also a fact, I just interrupted my colleagues for that,
01:02   that many refugees continue to travel from safe countries
01:10   because they want to exploit our welfare state,
01:15   which will destroy our welfare state. Chairman, it’s also a fact that many, many thousands, hundreds of thousands,
01:22   millions, if we aren’t careful, will follow, if we continue this way.
01:26   Also a fact, despite the letter from the cabinet, no national border controls will be implemented,
01:31   and Schengen remains as it was. The fact is that soon, the exact number isn’t known yet,
01:38   something like 8,000 to 10,000 extra refugees will be coming to The Netherlands. Many thanks, VVD!
01:41   This on top of the disastrous influx of 1,800 refugees per week.
01:49   Chairman, it’s a fact this farce will cost us billions
01:52   in sheltering, benefits, medical care and much more.
01:55   Also a fact is that we’re going to pay an additional 110 million
01:59   for regional sheltering, while the rich oil states hardly accept any refugees.
02:06   Chairman, three quarters of the boat refugees are male.
02:11   Three out of four! In Dutch refugee centers twice as many men as women are housed.
02:20   That’s where you’re standing… in Rosmalen, carrying a bag with collected dolls and toys, welcoming 500 adult males.
02:25   Chairman, it seems a tragicomedy, but it is the painful truth.
02:30   [Alexander Pechtold, D66] Chairman, eh, we’ve reached the point Mr. Wilders wants to debate facts.
02:36   For many years, that was different.
02:39   So if we’re talking about facts and he speaks about an invasion.
02:44   Can he give me a percentage based on the European population we’re talking about?
02:52   What percentage do those refugees constitute?
02:56   It’ll be many millions.
02:59   You can ask about percentages, I’ll answer you with absolute numbers.
03:05   I’m glad you asked this, for many people at home don’t know this.
03:08   The German chancellor, Mrs. Merkel, said Germany can welcome
03:12   800,000 refugees in the coming year.
03:17   All those people, chairman, I’m just talking about an average here,
03:20   if all those people bring two more for family reunification to our country,
03:26   then we’re talking about 2.5 million more people in a year.
03:28   The Netherlands receives 1,800 refugees every week.
03:35   That’s over 90,000 annually.
03:38   If those people reunited with two family members each,
03:48   then we’re talking about a quarter of a million every year. Three million in Germany, a quarter of a million in The Netherlands.
03:52   Mr. Pechtold, that is an invasion.
03:55   Whether you like or not. We can’t handle that. Europe can’t handle that.
03:59   Germany can’t handle that. We’ve got to do something about it.
04:02   Chairman, first of all, the figures of the nineties were higher
04:08   than they are now. That wasn’t an invasion, because I don’t see any changes since those years.
04:14   Secondly, what’s coming across the Mediterranean is 0.07% of the European population.
04:22   That doesn’t look like an invasion to me.
04:24   Where Mr. Wilders wants to debate facts and states nobody wants to answer him.
04:29   He doesn’t answer himself. For those are the facts.
04:33   Does Mr. Wilders deny those facts, and admit he sows fear?
04:43   You try something novel next time.
04:46   Your last answer wasn’t that strong, and now you merely repeat yourself.
04:50   I can’t repeat the facts often enough!
04:53   Germany: one million! In one year.
04:57   The German chancellor said it herself.
04:58   That’ll be three million if they do, on average, what they normally do,
05:02   ask for two more people to join. The Netherlands, 1,800 every week.
05:08   That’s three refugee asylum centres every week newly built, 90,000 people every year.
05:11   That’s 250.000 people, if they reunite.
05:16   Who are you fooling that this isn’t an invasion?
05:19   That is an invasion. That we can’t handle, and that is why we are debating this here.
05:22   If you deny this, or if you are juggling with numbers,
05:28   you aren’t worth a tuppence. Then you deny all problems.
05:31   I understand, Mrs. Chairman, for you want to welcome everyone here.
05:37   The juggler stand there; he’s juggling the numbers.
05:41   He shouts louder and louder.
05:42   That, generally, is not his strongest side in a debate.
05:44   Meanwhile, he utters vitriolic sentences.
05:48   Vitriolic sentences such as ‘men with beards’,
05:51   ‘there are more men than women’.
05:54   Chairman, what’s worse? A man with a beard or a man with dyed hair?
05:59   I mean, what’s the difference? When you are on the run?
06:03   You know what the difference is? That those men with beards often sing ‘Allahu akhbar’ -like songs.
06:11   Chairman, I saw it with my very own eyes last week. Mr. Pechtold saw it from behind his window.
06:16   I myself was last week in Budapest. I saw them walking on the streets.
06:20   Thousands of MEN. All young adult males around 20, 25 years old.
06:25   I saw perhaps two women passing by in a parade of thousands lasting fifteen minutes.
06:30   Only men. Young men taking selfies
06:33   Screaming and shouting ‘Allahu akhbar’. That is reality. Don’t fool us that I made that up,
06:39   for those are the facts, and those people are coming here.
06:43   And those are absolutely assuredly not all are political refugees. Even if they are: they are safe in Hungary.
06:47   They have no reason to come to The Netherlands. ‘Allahu akhbar’ means something like ‘God be praised’.
06:51   Which is what we would say if we made it safely to the other side.
06:57   However, Mr. Wilders does not present a solution.
07:01   Mr. Wilders has the illusion you can build a fence around Europe.
07:08   A fence around The Netherlands. And that’s why I want to confront him with the example he used in many debates:
07:13   Australia. Australia announces today it will accept 12,000 Syrians.
07:20   You can’t get to Australia in a little boat. They go and get those people out of there.
07:25   What is Mr. Wilders’ response to this, where he always used Australia as an example?
07:29   Chairman, I didn’t mention Australia as an example when talking about going and getting people out of there.
07:33   I showed Australia as an example because, and they do that right now,
07:38   They send ILLEGAL people back with the ‘push back method’.
07:43   [I said ] that Australia doesn’t have smugglers.
07:46   That Australia doesn’t have any dead or drowned people.
07:50   Because the people know that if they try illegally –
07:54   we’re talking about illegal people here – to apply for asylum, that they will be send back.
07:58   That means, Mme Chairman, they don’t want to take the risk.
08:01   For they know it won’t work in the end.
08:04   That’s why they don’t pay smugglers,
08:07   and why they do not drown. That’s a real social policy. If Australia says ‘we’re going to receive refugees legally’, that’s okay with me.
08:14   However, that is an example we should NOT follow.
08:18   [Jesse Klaver, GreenLeft] Chairman, one cannot get away with a lie.
08:23   When Mr. Wilders talks about facts, he should have a closer look at those facts.
08:27   Time after time he mentions the example of the Gulf states.
08:33   I want to ask Mr. Wilders if he is aware what those states are doing about the refugee problem.
08:38   Yes. Nothing at all. Apart from donating money.
08:41   I’m talking about sheltering refugees.
08:48   I’m talking about Gulf states such as Qatar, Saudi Arabia. They donate money, admittedly.
08:54   But they absolutely do not enough in sheltering people.
08:57   Chairman, that is not true.
09:05   In the Gulf states they use a very different system than we do in Europe. I would like to ask Mr. Wilders if he is aware of the fact
09:12   that Saudi Arabia, the country Mr. Wilders abhors time and time again,
09:17   that this country is sheltering half a million Syrian refugees.
09:20   Are you aware of this?
09:28   This ware reported by the BBC, a reputable public broadcaster,
09:29   Are you aware of this?
09:30   Mme. Chairman, even if this is true, it is not enough by far.
09:34   They should go in droves to that country, with their culture, religion, whatever.
09:39   They should shelter millions
09:42   Who are now coming here.
09:49   It’s ridiculous they don’t do that. -Chairman, you know what is beyond the pale?
09:53   This ‘our own people first’ bull Mr. Wilders tells us.
09:56   Where is your humanity? Where is your heart? Answer me that. Be merciful.
10:00   How would you respond if all hell broke loose on our continent,
10:06   and we have to flee to other countries? What would you do? Be charitable, come on!
10:12   Chairman, I resume my debate.
10:19   Chairman, speaking louder doesn’t make one right.
10:22   I have a question for Mr. Wilders about safety in the region
10:26   Is the region safe if 80% of the children can’t obtain an education?
10:39   Is it safe if the World Food Program has to stop support for one third of the refugees there?
10:42   If it safe if one, as a woman, has to fear rape in such a camp? Is it safe out there? Is that what Mr. Wilders would call safe?
10:47   Mme. Chairman, Turkey is a safe country. Greece is a safe country.
10:51   Macedonia is a safe country. Serbia is a safe country.
10:58   And Hungary is a safe country.
11:02   In most of those countries nothing happens like what you just mentioned.
11:06   All those countries are countries the refugees travel through,
11:10   in order to apply for asylum in Germany, Finland, Sweden or The Netherlands.
11:13   That’s when I indeed say: you are not a political refugee.
11:16   You are a fortune hunter.
11:20   If safety were the issue, you would remain in Turkey.
11:23   If you can’t agree about Turkey, then you remain in Greece. For those countries are safe.
11:26   Continuing to flee is unnecessary. Continue to flee? That makes you an economic, not a political refugee.
11:29   Chairman, sending refugees back to Greece is next to impossible.
11:35   The situation there is poignant. To resume, we were talking about sheltering in the region.
11:39   That’s what the plan is all about.
11:43   About the refugee camps there. I showed the numbers. One can say the country is safe.
11:49   But let’s discuss the situation in those camps. It’s not safe there. If you don’t have food, children can’t go to school,
11:52   when women are threatened there, you can’t speak of a safe situation?
11:57   Mr. Wilders pretends it’s a kind of Center Parks [holiday resort chain] with a nice flier showing holiday options.
12:03   Those aren’t holiday resorts. Those people are in a horrible situation.
12:06   You can’t blame those people for fleeing to the West
12:10   How dare you say it’s safe there?
12:13   What does safe mean to you?
12:14   Chairman, two replies. The first reply is: we can’t solve the problem by bringing them all here.
12:18   Millions will want to come.
12:21   The second reply is: if you find it isn’t safe enough there,
12:25   do something to motivate those Arabian countries, those rich Gulf states,
12:28   where the police drive Lamborghinis.
12:31   Motivate them to improve shelter, education.
12:34   Make them do more about safety. They have to ensure enough drinking water. It’s their region, their country. It’s their people.
12:40   They speak the same language, share the same religion.
12:43   Let them solve that problem. You can’t simply put it on our plate.
12:49   I feel utterly ashamed living in a country where prime minister Rutte kicks the elderly out of their retirement homes.
12:56   That’s the country we live in. I can’t explain that we fleece our elderly while you lecture me
13:00   about the refugees camps in Jordan.
13:03   We should take care of our own, as they should take care of theirs.
13:07   Those are our children. Those are our people.
13:11   How on earth can you say ‘it’s the responsibility of the Gulf States’?
13:17   We find it obscene people aren’t sheltered there. How can you say those aren’t our children?
13:25   How can you say those aren’t our children drowning? Can’t pursue their education?
13:29   Who can’t live in safety? Those are our children! We should take our responsibility!
13:32   If you are consistent, Mr. Wilders, if you are really consistent, and don’t want those people here, then you’d raise development aid with many billions.
13:38   To make sure the situation in those countries improves.
13:44   But you don’t do that, do you? That’s very cheap! Chairman, sheltering in the region, as I mentioned,
13:45  
13:48   is worthless with open borders.
13:51   That’s the reason we can toss away the letter of the cabinet.
13:54   What’s remarkable is that the single word ‘terror’ isn’t mentioned even once in this letter.
13:59   I haven’t heard one of my colleagues say anything about it. The Islamic state already told us thousands of terrorists will be sent with the refugees.
14:05   Even the boss of Eurojust told us terrorists are amongst the refugees.
14:15   Terrorists in Europe are walking around freely. Ready to commit an attack.
14:19   I ask the government: kindly answer me that. Don’t keep silent.
14:22   Don’t wait for the next attack.
14:26   Chairman, we need to close the Dutch borders.
14:30   We must send the refugees back.
14:31   Let them indeed go back to the rich Gulf nations, such as Dubai
14:36   where the police, I just mentioned this, ride around in Lamborghinis and Ferraris.
14:39   It’s their region, their people, their religion, their culture.
14:46   That’s also better for the so-called refugees.
14:50   Chairman, it may well be an inconvenient truth.
15:00   Fortunately, more and more Dutchmen realize that. The polls show us more than half the respondents say ‘no’ to more refugees.
15:07   Two-thirds of the Dutch want border controls back.
15:11   Even a majority within the PvdA [Labour].
15:15   Even a majority of the SP [Socialists] electorate say ‘resume border controls’.
15:20   However, here everybody looks the other way.
15:24   Chairman, the refugee tsunami, which will get a whole lot worse, really a lot worse,
15:29   if we don’t do anything or find flaccid halfhearted solutions as the cabinet does,
15:38   will cost us billions. Will disrupt our society. We don’t just need the money for ourselves, but also to protect our culture,
15:46   or we can toss Christian culture in the bin, we are being Islamised.
15:50   I say: stop building refugee centers.
15:54   Mr. Prime Minister, choose for your own people.
15:57   Choose for the Dutch. Close the Dutch borders.
16:00   Stand for your own people, your own culture. Just do that!
16:07   Enough is enough!
 

50 thoughts on “Geert Wilders: “Stand for Your Own People, Your Own Culture!””

    • please fix the link. evidently the “gov” at the end only registers as “g”

      thx

    • I can’t make a new entry on top so I just comment here. While I admire and support Wilders, I think he should have given better answers in some circumstances, and this is one circumstance. For example, when asked about percentage. Say percentage. Wikipedia wrote that Europe population in 2013 was 742 million. The total number of so called refugee is about 1%, 7 million if we combine Germany, UK, France, Italy; and considering the unreported ones. 1% is high enough. Imagine Indonesia with 250 million population has to accept 1% (2.5 million refugee). It will be catastrophic.

    • Then, address the mistake of others. The D66 member said about 0.07%. Confront it with 1%. Add other facts: the refugees are violent (unruleable). So, beside the number, the attitude of refugees is the second factor to reject the refugees. So, what makes it INVASION? At least two factors: the numbers, and the attitude. I may add some other factors: don’t bring skills and don’t master the language. It is justified to require some minor skills and a bit mastery of the language of the destined land.

    • 3. Wilders should address this to fire back: “That wasn’t an invasion, because I don’t see any changes since those years.” Say that there are changes. The case of Rotherham, Van Gaugh, his lost of freedom. Even add that ‘you are a liar by saying that’. I see that Wilders’ opponent often says the word ‘lie’. Throw it back on them using facts and their own words.

    • 4. In responding to accusation about vitrolic sentences, I would reply by “I don’t think my sentences are vitrolic. Even if they are, the vitrolic actions are much worse than vitrolic sentences. The refugees commit vitrolic actions”.

    • The problem with most politicians in debate like this: they are asking TOO MANY questions. Adopting information theory, too much data/info makes each of them less and less valuable. That’s why many political debates end up in nothing good. Count the number of questions here:

      11:49 But let’s discuss the situation in those camps. It’s not safe there. If you don’t have food, children can’t go to school,
      11:52 when women are threatened there, you can’t speak of a safe situation?
      11:57 Mr. Wilders pretends it’s a kind of Center Parks [holiday resort chain] with a nice flier showing holiday options.
      12:03 Those aren’t holiday resorts. Those people are in a horrible situation.
      12:06 You can’t blame those people for fleeing to the West
      12:10 How dare you say it’s safe there?
      12:13 What does safe mean to you?

    • If I were Wilders, I would answer to questions about safety as follows:

      Yes I can speak of safe situation.
      I dare to say it’s safe to in those countries.
      I mean safe as safe; they are surrounded by people who have the same religion, same set of values. They should be safe; by the standards
      dictated by their own religion.

    • 6. Here is a quote:

      11:57 Mr. Wilders pretends it’s a kind of Center Parks [holiday resort chain] with a nice flier showing holiday options.
      12:03 Those aren’t holiday resorts. Those people are in a horrible situation.

      I would answer:

      I don’t pretend the shelters are Center Parks or holiday resorts.
      And then, why should we provide holiday resorts to them? You’re joking.

    • 7. To this:

      13:07 Those are our children. Those are our people.
      13:11 How on earth can you say ‘it’s the responsibility of the Gulf States’?

      I would reply:

      Those are not our children. Yes, I can say it’s the responsibility of the Gulf States. How on earth can say it’s not their responsibility?

    • 8. To this:

      10:26 Is the region safe if 80% of the children can’t obtain an education?
      10:39 Is it safe if the World Food Program has to stop support for one third of the refugees there?
      10:42 If it safe if one, as a woman, has to fear rape in such a camp? Is it safe out there? Is that what Mr. Wilders would call safe?

      I would respond:

      Yes it’s safe to get Islamic education. All they want is Islamic education.
      It’s possibly safe for the World Food Program to stop support, at least safe for the World Food Program staffs.
      About the woman, your question is a wrong one. If she believes her religion is good, she should be safe surrounded by men of the same religion. If the situation is FACTUALLY not safe, she should abandon her religion, flee here, denounce in written her religion in front of the officer, and state in written form the loyalty to the law of destined nation.

    • 9. To this:

      09:56 Where is your humanity? Where is your heart? Answer me that. Be merciful.
      10:00 How would you respond if all hell broke loose on our continent,
      10:06 and we have to flee to other countries? What would you do? Be charitable, come on!

      I would respond:

      I have humanity here, in my heart. I am merciful, merciful to people of my own country, especially the decend ones. I now respond the hell broke loose. Hell already broke loose; look at me, look at van Gaugh, look at Rotherham. What would I do? I am doing it now in front of you: Presenting you the fact, warning you about the future problem, and offering you solution by closing our borders.

    • I think one way to debate the leftists is using the lack of single authority if we do not believe in God. Let’s say I am A, and a leftist in B. B: ‘How dare you say that?’ A: ‘How dare you say that to me? You are not God, you don’t believe in God. On what authority you dare saying it to me’?

      Taking examples from Geerts’ debate
      B: ‘Be merciful’.
      A: ‘Are you merciful towards Dutch citizens?’

      Taking examples of conflict
      If we cannot contain one Ducth and one refugee; if we can contain only one of them, which one you show mercy?

    • Sorry about the one after #9. It should be posted to respond to Bishop Cardinal. Btw, this is my last, #10. Confront their lie and/or lack of proof.

      08:18 [Jesse Klaver, GreenLeft] Chairman, one cannot get away with a lie
      08:23 When Mr. Wilders talks about facts, he should have a closer look at those facts.
      08:27 Time after time he mentions the example of the Gulf states.
      08:33 I want to ask Mr. Wilders if he is aware what those states are doing about the refugee problem.
      08:38 Yes. Nothing at all. Apart from donating money.
      08:41 I’m talking about sheltering refugees.

      I would answer

      I’m afraid it’s you Jesse, who lies. There is no proof that Gulf states sheltering refugees. You haven’t seen it yourself. We haven’t seen it ourselves.

      [I am a bit unsatisfied Geert did not answer like that. I hope Geert learns better, much better].

      • Wilders is probably the most feared debater in the Dutch Parliament. He doesn’t need lessons. 😉

        I have to admit I gritted my teeth a few times while translating. However, we do have a nice proberb in Holland: “de beste stuurlui staan aan wal.” (The best helmsmen are on shore.)

        • Everybody needs lessons. He does not need to learn again? If he feels so, he already loses the battle. Thankfully I don’t hear it from himself, so I still think Geert is willing to learn.

  2. These maniacs acknowledge that our culture is superior to those of the people fleeing those third world hell holes, but say no one here should defend our culture, rather, we should all do everything we can to ruin it.

    THESE PEOPLE ARE INSANE.

    • Don’t give them an opt out. These oiiks know exactly what they are doing.
      They are criminals…

  3. If only we had more politicians like Geert Wilders! EU governments will reap what they are sowing – welfare bankruptcy, degradation of suburbs, mosques which will promote jihad and store weapons, rape gangs, Sharia no-go areas, mayhem, civil war and demographic slaughter in a few decades!

    The monks of those Gothic cathedrals would be turning in their graves. Time to throw out the global money-lenders, the PC politicians and sanctimonious Marxist Post-Moderns before the immigration invasion can be solved.

    • If only we had more voters for parties like the PVV!

      One cannot blame the politician alone. The uninformed majority is part of this immense problem.

      • That majority is not stupid. They have eyes and ears and the Internet. They get the Government they deserve…

        • Getting the (stupid) government they deserve may imply that the majority is stupid; contradict your own argument.

  4. “Pay special attention to what Jesse Klaver of the GreenLeft party (GroenLinks) had to say. Mr. Klaver was quite forthright in his insistence that “we” — that is, the political leaders and citizens of the Netherlands — were responsible for alleviating the suffering of everyone, everywhere”.

    Wow! I overheard a radio BBC newscast in passing earlier today and the topic was the election of Labour’s new leader – Jeremy Corbin. One of Corbin’s supporters expressed *precisely* the same sentiment as Klaver.

    What is wrong with these people?

    • In the case of mr Klaver it’s simple. His mother [had carnal knowledge of] a Morrocan and the result is: mr. Klaver.

      That’s why mr Klaver tries to import more of his kind. He s not even a true Dutchman.

      • Listen friend, ‘being even not a real dutch man’ means nothing. I’m trying to say, that after all what Geert said in the past, almost all foreigners I know, here in Nederlands stands with his beliefs. And what makes me sad, that foreigners who found in Holland decent life and future, who are greatful for all of that, they do have lots of respect to Mr Wilders while most Dutch people I know are against him and against their own country, in the name of religion of peace who forces our ‘right’ politicians to wear bulletproof vests or being shot dead otherwise.

        • Sorry jegforstorikke! You are right if you are saying that i should clarify what i mean by my remark about mr. Klaver.

          Being a true Westerner, a true Dutchman has nothing to do with ones (former) nationality or ancestry. Or race etc. The West is an idea.

          Mr.Klaver is not a true Westerner. A true Dutchman because of the ideology he advocates. It could wel be- and i think that’s the case- he was brought up with a Morrocan/islamic mindset. When i take a look at his political beliefs? He definitely is not a true Dutchman/ Westerner.

      • The problem here is that there is a significant number of people of mixed ethnicity who have already adapted extremely well to Western culture and support its foundation values.

        This is not about melanin levels in one’s skin but cultural values! Arabs are not very dark, but they are intolerant Muslims. Ben Carson is African-American but he is a wonderful human being. Pushkin had African blood.

        It would be a terrible shame if this huge debate degenerates into flat out racism! Then innocent people will be killed. I know you were referring to the politician’s Muslim inheritance and not his color, but I think we have to be careful not to conflate the two. There is always room in a culture for a small amount of diversity.

        • “It would be a terrible shame if this huge debate degenerates into flat out racism!”

          Is that what you call the defense of white survival — racism?

          • A harsh truism. The motive regardless; it does appear we genetically Western European peoples are to be supplanted. With this also disappears our cultural achievements that have brought humanity thus far.
            Those fools in favour of multicultural utopia need to wake up. When Islam is part of the mix we historically, unavoidably, end up with just one culture – Islam.

        • “There is always room in a culture for a small amount of diversity.”

          If it’s not about ethnicity or melanin levels, but rather immigrants embracing Western values and culture, then why is there only room for a small amount of diversity?

          • Surely because if there’s a large amount of diversity (such as what’s happening throughout Eurabia right now) it won’t be just diversity, it’ll be an invasion–a takeover.

            We are in a war, whether our leaders will admit it or not, and men like Geert Wilders are few and far between, and usually reviled when they stand up for us, as Stephen Harper does in this country, Canada, and may be voted out next month in favour of—–who? I see only two mental retards and a vacant idiot, the son of an evil idiot.

            There must be war, for our very survival, for if there is not war then we must inevitably just become islamic.

  5. Everyone will eventually agree with Geert, but it is incredibly sad to have to wait so long for the paradigm to shift, because the problem is magnified every week. The effort to correct stupidity thus becomes astronomical. People on the wrong side of this should be penalized, just as in a futures market, by being reduced to poverty in their retirement years.

    • No they will not eventually agree with Gert. Europe is finished. The majority will simply become Moslem. Europe will fall to Islam within a year or so. If that is what these younger generations want then so be it. They fully deserve the consequences. We Patriots are out of time now. We tried but failed. The young are far too stupid.

      • It’s not over yet. Take heart. Look at the demonstrations in Poland and Slovakia today. The majority is angry as hell. What we have to defeat is the post-Modern Marxist crap our kids are being indoctrinated with. Bring back Christ’s core teaching of ‘do unto others as you would have others do unto you’. Islam hates all non-Muslims. Post-Modern Marxists hate everyone who doesn’t belong to their self-appointed victim groups of gender, ethnicity and religion (they only tolerate Islam). Both of them equally detest Christ – what does that tell you?

        • As much as I detest the discrimination of Christianity by the Left and Islam, I don’t wish to see it imposed on Europe again and neither do I believe people will buy into it. We’ve moved on in many respects, despite it playing an integral part of our culture and values. It is an undeniable part of our heritage. I think we need to destroy the EU, educate people to be proud of their heritage and not ashamed of their ethnicity, but not believing in any racial theories of supremacy either. We need to shift the goalposts of what is considered acceptable in political discussion, infiltrate higher education institutions and obliterate the stranglehold the Marxists have on what and how it is taught. We need to hold the media to account to give an unbiased and objective account of news stories so that all sides are heard.

          If you have any ideas on how to achieve the above, please let me know?

          • One could start with Christ’s teachings without the man made dogma that goes with it and that imposes religious controls via the Church over everyone who happen to accept Christ’s lessons on life.

            Humanist ethics will never replace Christian morality as an effective teaching aid for life because once God no longer figures in peoples lives, then hubris and hedonistic pursuits will reign supreme.

            People do not need religious dogma, only the knowledge that there is a God to whom we are all answerable to at the end of our life.

      • Very defeatist. Within a year you say? Wow. I don’t think things are moving that quickly. If Islam is imposed on Europe in the next year then definitely there’ll be a huge fightback. The rule book will be thrown out and civil war will ensue when the Lefties will need to decide, do they defend their nation and their liberty, or do they continue to appease and whitewash the Islamic threat. If the latter, then the lines will be clearly drawn and it will primarily be a Far left versus Far right civil war. That’s the risk, that the narrative shifts from Liberty vs Islam to an ethnonationalism vs multiculturalism scenario, attacking not only Islam but those who happen to be of a different ethnicity.

        • Too many young and some older folk, no longer stand for anything – their reason for existence has been ‘educated’ out of them. And until they can learn to love themselves first they will never be able to love others as they should do themselves – and that includes their own kind for which most of them have been taught to loathe everything they stand for.

        • I intended to wax lyrical about practical measures to prevent, resolve, avoid the death of European culture. Like the Bishop, I really do think we are now too late.
          In the UK I think our current government would not want further degeneration of our own culture but for on reason or another they do not have the political option of being effective. Unfortunately their behaviour intimates they do not understand the lateness of the hour in our forthcoming Islamisation.
          Best case scenario – Europe will be Balkanised via civil war and some remnants of our nations will survive.

      • I agree that not all will agree on Geert. Whether it’s the majority or the minority portion that will agree, I hope it’s the majority. What I would like to stress is how Geerts and we should be more articulate, smarter. I’ve given examples of using opponents’ own words to back fire against them. Examples that make them at least equal, not superior (e.g., I dare to accuse you; btw, you dare to accuse me, so you’re not better than me; see example #7). Be affirmative that in general, anyone has to contribute. That is a way to teach young people to argue people/politicians with ‘holier than thou’ mentality. Anyone able (not disabled) should contribute; and anyone who supports parasite mentality is him/herself parasite, and should be opposed continuously.

        • What I offer is the ways to counter leftists. What are your objection? Please be specific.

          I have faith, Christianity. What of my words make you think I don’t have faith? If you believe in Bible, you should be somewhat ‘pessimistic’ because the Revelation told us about global wars at the end of this world. However, in total, the Christians should be ‘optimistic’ because Bible also told that they will win despite of great depressions during the war. By talking about the war, the Bible does not preclude we be offensive in the war, including psychologically, tactics, etc. That’s the reason for not being pacifist, that’s the reason why I offer such tactics and still claim I’m okay to be Christian. A christian does not have to be pacifist. More about that later. I hope I make it clear.

  8. I can not think that the people of the Netherlands will make a change by voting. Perhaps they voted for Mr. Wilders only on impulse to see some unreasonable things in your land. But it will not last long, because the press is fully left, and we have organized political groups, which give full support to the liberal left. All countries have these groups of “minorities” that make noise to gain notoriety, and certainly Mr. Wilders can not win alone these organized political groups, malicious journalists, and indoctrinated voters. The Dutch people are a leftist people, hardly Mr. Wilders will have a future if we depend on them.

    The people of Holland is very unclean politically, their minds are reduced. Mr. Wilders would be a great leader in Britain, or America.

    • Only five years ago I may have agreed with your assessment Ronie, but Mr Wilders has made huge political inroads with his simple truth telling. BTW, are you aware that Mr Wilders will be out in Australia during next month to launch a new Australian political party, Australian Liberty Alliance, which will be the only anti-Islamic political party that will have representatives in most states and territories?

      • No, I was not knowing. But I’m glad to know. Dutch Mr. Wilders is the only one that I like on the political scene, and as a citizen. It is completely different from ordinary Dutch, does not seem a Dutch. This man deserves an award because it was able to win votes and notoriety among these people. It’s really an extraordinary achievement. But I still see a lot of problems in his country, such as hate speech laws, which turns freedom of expression virtually crime. I met him for the first time reading about such draconian laws. Then I saw one of his article at a rally where he asked questions about Islam, and the people responded. He was already in the first case by saying what you think, and the Dutch people was afraid to say, so he asked a question to the public, and the public responded favorably to Wilders, agreeing with him, that the flow of Muslims should be interrupted.

        Still is an achievement, the Dutch people are very liberal and left-wing bias. Wilders really has to be congratulated, because usually a nation like the Netherlands would not matter to him, and follow the disastrous rhyme following Sweden, for example. But you’re right, a lot must have changed. If you are Dutch, I’m sorry for the sarcasm. Lol What about the new Australian party, I’m glad to hear that have an openly anti-Islam party. Australians are doing a great job at the rallies, I accompany you, really has everything to succeed. God bless you.

        • I believe Mr. Wilders is part Indonesian and Dutch. His father was Dutch and his mother Indonesian? (perhaps Dympthna could verify that?) But whatever his heritage, he has witnessed enough of Islam to compel him to speak out about Islam as the most retrogressive force on this planet, a home to all of us that we must all share, while Islam believes that only Muslims are entitled to it.

          Mr. Wilders should arrive in Perth, WA, around 19 October, to inaugurate the Australian Liberty Alliance political party on 22 October. Hopefully, the Baron may put something up about that on this site.

          Good luck to you Ronie, and those Netherlanders who know what is really happening and will do something in future to correct it!

          Sometimes I drink Heineken or Hooten, depending on the price, but next time I have a Dutch beer I will raise my glass to you in salute!

  9. One speaker tells Geert Wilders that Saudi Arabia has taken half a million Syrians. If you google that, you will notice that some Chinese “newspapers” are reporting that fact. I have no idea what are those Chinese sites worth, but however trustful they are, I don’t see why such an information wouldn’t be relayed by the EU if that was truthful. Still, this guy with the ochre jacket and blue tie is squarely stating this. I guess the Chinese reports may have conflated the financial aid with actual housing. But then why Wilders doesn’t dismiss it right away? I might have perceived some hesitation when he heard that statement.

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