Which Lives Matter?

This excellent rant by Mike Vanderboegh is worth reposting in its entirety:

I had a run-in at a local thrift store (one of my favorite haunts) the other day with yet another black fellow wearing a “Black lives matter” tee-shirt. There’s nothing that sets me off like racial identity politics, black or white, so I said in a reasonable tone, “You know, I don’t want to pop your balloon, but ALL lives matter.” You could see he immediately got pissed off, but before he could give me a rejoinder, I said, “That’s why God invented firearms,” and patted my right front pants pocket. He saw the gesture and said the first thing that came to his mind, “F*** you, m**********r.” I replied, still quite reasonably, “No, that’s what the pistol is preventing, but I’m serious, all lives matter, yours, mine, everybody’s, regardless of skin color. We all matter, don’t you agree?”

This gave him a bit of pause, not being used to being asked to think about life in terms other than that of slogans. “I’m talking about cops killing young black men,” he replied. “Oh I know what you’re talking about, and I’m no fan of killer cops either, but when you put things in terms of race and race alone, you’re no better than the cowards of the Klan.”

Now he just looked at me. “You know,” I said, “I’ve been fighting THOSE bastards all my life and I’ll tell you something, they are damned happy to see you adopt their way of thinking about life in pure racial terms. And I’ll tell you something else, they are happy as s*** to see y’all murdering each other by the bushel-full every damn day. Hell, not even at the height of their power could they lynch you that fast. And I’ll tell you something else as well. The ghost of every Grand Dragon of the Ku Klux Klan and every wanna-be Neo-Nazi fuhrer who ever lived laughs like hell every morning when the abortion clinics open for business in your neighborhoods. They love white people killing black babies (and most abortionists are white) and they love black kids killing other black kids. Hell, y’all are putting ALL the lynchings of the Klan throughout history in the deep shade and you’re giving the Holocaust a run for its money (and here I raised my voice for the first time) — AND YOU’RE DOING IT ALL TO YOURSELVES. Lord knows that you’re good for comic relief in the parts of Hell that THEY inhabit. And the Devil does too.

He just gaped at me. And we were drawing a small crowd, mostly black women. And two of them were nodding.

“And when you put it terms of ‘Black lives matter,’ that implies that white lives, and Asian lives, and Eskimo lives, and every other kind of lives don’t matter. So we get the feeling that if this is all about some sort of race test that we can’t hope to pass to your satisfaction because of who we are, not how we act, then screw you buddy, we’re not gonna play that game. So the rest of us get the feeling that if our lives don’t matter then why the hell should we care if you think ‘black lives matter?’ And it’s just a little ways from there for the rest of us to conclude that black lives DON’T matter either.”

“That’s right,” said one of the black ladies softly.

“So if you wanted a slogan that the Klan could understand and use to recruit with, well, brother, that’s it. So that slogan is either the worst kind of stupidity or the bastard who thought it up is trying to separate you from your natural allies or get you killed, or both. I can’t think of another slogan more calculated to get an American Hitler elected, and I HATE Nazis.”

Everybody was quiet now, but I thought, what the heck, might as well give ’em the whole sermon.

“And I’ll tell you something else” (I’m always telling somebody something else), “when I see these black racists of Farrakhan’s bunch talking about wanting a race war I’d say they haven’t looked at how the numbers stack up. Because let me tell you something about white folks at their worst. When they get scared that people are trying to kill them just because of who they are, when they get pissed off along racial lines, they don’t tear up their own neighborhoods or burn down their own communities like y’all do. They come to the neighborhoods of the people who threaten them and burn THEIR communities down and kill THEM. They have burned down whole CONTINENTS. And if you don’t believe me, just ask the Indians. So before you wear a slogan like THAT,” (and I pointed at his shirt), “you’d better think this s*** through. If you manage to make this all about race and some American Hitler decides to put y’all on railroad cars leading to some camp, me and my white-assed friends will have to be the ones out blowing up the train tracks to keep that from happening, and I’ll tell you, I’d really rather stay home than get shot at because somebody was stupid enough to buy into some racist’s idea of how to view the world.”

I concluded: “This ain’t about black or white, it’s about good versus evil and ALL lives matter.” “And,” I added, “you forget that at your own peril.” It seemed like a good time to walk away, so I did, leaving the cart behind. As I walked off, one of the black ladies said, “DAMN!”

It was perhaps my finest extemporaneous speech (with the possible exception of the one I am told I gave after-hours in the militia commander’s tent in Texas that time back in the fall of ‘96, but I was drunk on Jameson’s Irish whiskey at the time and don’t remember a word).

34 thoughts on “Which Lives Matter?

  1. I realize Mike Vanderboegh was on a roll in his ranting rhetoric in the heat of the moment, and I like most of it, but at one point he implied an equivalence between Hitler and what Europeans (and then Americans) did about the American Indian problem. That is a monstrous equivalence for so many reasons (not the least of which is that Jews weren’t behaving savagely, as American Indians were), and is in fact implicitly one thread in the tapestry of PC MC — the same PC MC that is inhibiting the West from rationally assessing the danger of Islam.

      • Everyone has invaded someone in history; that still doesn’t speak to the monstrous comparison of Europeans & Americans as tantamount to Hitler — unless you want to say that everyone has been Hitler.

      • 90% OF AMERICAN INDIANS DIED OF DISEASE MOST WITHOUT EVEN SEEING WHITE MEN. Even measles wiped out whole tribes who had no immunity whatsoever.

  2. Great speech.

    Won’t make a difference.

    I’m probably far from you in that I don’t believe in humanity. I believe in my people, who are a subset of the white race. And since they are who I believe in I see no solution to racial animus, to the extent there can be a solution, but in separation. Will that happen? Most likely not. But there will be a reaction to black aggression eventually. And that reaction will lead to more separation than is presently the case. Probably after bloodshed.

  3. I wonder if there was any lasting effect on Mr Vanderboegh’s audience? I hope so.

  4. Yes, ALL lives matter, because they were created by God (YA, His name by the way). He has put everyone of us in the place and time He has chosen to either glorify Him or glorify ourselves. Recently, it appears that all we have been doing is glorifying ourselves at the expense of what He has been lovingly trying to accomplish with us. The consequences of our acts will be entirely ours to ‘enjoy.’
    Get right or get left.

    • “Recently”, you say? I missed the part where humanity was doing anything other than what is going on now. Modern technology merely gives the exhibitionists a bigger audience is all that’s changed.

      • you are correct, my apologies. this student of history should have known better.

  5. This calls to mind an old “Far Side” cartoon by Gary Larson. The first panel shows a guy berating his dog, the word balloon full of objurgation in plain English and the caption: “What we say to dogs.” The next panel is the same drawing, captioned, “What they hear.” Same size word balloon, only now it’s full of “Blah blah blah blah blah Ginger blah blah blah blah blah Ginger blah blah blah blah blah.” It should not be imagined that a young black male is going to hear what a white guy says, much less take it to heart. In their schools, their churches, and their social circles, they are relentlessly schooled to profile us as irredeemable racists. Reconciliation is a chimera.

    • MV apparently was not minding his own business. He may be in need of a little street wisdom himself. Responsible vets don’t go around armed and baiting the most vulnerable members of the American public. Go patronise a Koran carrying beardo. They are everywhere you look.

  6. And as I walked out the door of the thrift shop, having delivered my didactic rant, I heard the swoosh of a heavy object moving through the air and then felt the crack of a hard, possibly wooden, object on my skull. My final thought as I lapsed into unconsciousness was:
    “Perhaps I should choose my audiences more carefully.”

    • I must point out that Mike Vanderboegh is a military veteran and militia leader with extensive combat training, and always packs heat. His chances of being ambushed successfully in such a manner are very low. [This from the Baron using Dymphna’s computer]

      • ” You could see he immediately got pissed off, but before he could give me a rejoinder, I said, “That’s why God invented firearms,” and patted my right front pants pocket. He saw the gesture and said the first thing that came to his mind, “F*** you, m**********r.”

        I realize he’s a veteran and is armed. It’s still not a good idea to get into provocative conversations with total strangers on the street while gesturing towards your firearm. You just don’t know who you’re dealing with or what might set them off. Things can turn bad very quickly.

        And even if you do prevail in the physical encounter you better have your lawyer on speed dial and expect your life to change in a big way. All because you wanted to make a point with a moron on the street.

        • Yep, getting into argument with a hostile black youth isn’t a good way to spend your time, in fact it’s dangerous. Consider shooting one the precious darlings and you better be prepared to give up your job and house and go into hiding. Because they will lynch you know because they now have the MSM and government on their side. Remember Zimmerman.

          Besides it won’t make any difference. They see whites as born racists out to get them. What whites say has zero credibility with them. It doesn’t matter if it’s true, because it comes from a “ghost” or “cracker” and that’s that.

          And it’s gotten worse ever since Obama got elected , race relations have essentially collapsed. A lot of whites are now preparing for a eventual race war because of the shift of power and the crippling of the police forces at the behest of white leftists and blacks.

    • From information available on the web mr V is in his 60s, has hypertension, heart disease, and diabetes, and lives off disability benefits. No history of military service is mentioned only previous employment as a warehouse manager. Photos of him do not show him as an ‘epic beard man’ type. In a physical confrontation with a younger negro my money would be on the black man.

      I agree wholeheartedly with his point of view though.

    • In a physical confrontation between a young negro and a 60 something disabled man with hypertension, heart disease and diabetes who, from photos on the web, does not look like an ‘epic beard man’ type, sensible money would be on the negro.

      I agree with his argument though.

  7. we really missed the opportunity we had right after World War II to make this country truly One Nation Under God, Indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for All. The actions in Selma and the riots in Watts, ( grew up with them) not to mention Detroit are all evidences of how we chose convenience over integrity and the consequences of that choice.
    maybe that is a bit of a rant, but it is a bit difficult reconciling the high-sounding words of the Pledge of Allegiance with the reality I witness on a daily basis.

  8. Here is my apology for slavery: “I’m very sorry that blacks were brought over here to be slaves.”

    • Now they just need to get an apology from the Arabs and other Muslims who were involved, and are still buying and selling black slaves.

      • The arabs were known as especially cruel and brutal slave traders.I once read that the arab slave trade routes were well marked, you just had to follow the trail of skeletons.

        • Don’t forget that sharks to this day cluster near the routes taken by the slave ships going to America whose crew threw black slaves overboard. This is an article of faith in some quarters.

        • Muslims (better than the term “Arabs”) were not merely slave traders — implying that they were mere middle-men — they were ENSLAVERS who had the largest, longest-lasting, and cruelest slave harvesting network in all world history.

          Not only that, Muslims are unapologetic for it, since it’s part of their Islamic doctrine, and they continue to try to practice it under the “watchful” eyes of a starry-eyed Wilsonian Age.

      • and so why is the Nation of Islam comprised exclusively of black people if Islam is the religion that called for their enslavement?

  9. I seriously doubt that this event even happened other than in Mr. Vanderboegh’s imagination. Some of the elements of the speech he claims to have made to the man with the tee shirt are taken verbatim from posts he’s made on his blog.

    Next you can read about how I beat Superman at arm wrestling and decide if that was a true event.

    • I suppose that the part that is the least believable is that violence did not ensue, something that would have been an expected natural consequence these days/daze.

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