Geert Wilders Knows His People

UPDATE, Edited:

Here is an explanation of the video below, since there seems to be some puzzlement as to what is transpiring. It seemed obvious to me, but then I watch a lot more of these things than I ever thought I’d be viewing.

This YouTube video is an oldie-but-goodie example of the adage about actions speaking louder than words. It’s so old we’ve probably published it before.

The lesson here is demonstrable proof that the Dutch people – even educated elites who are first-rate musicians – don’t like what is happening to their country. [Yes, Hesperado, that conclusion is indeed my inference based on their behavior.]

Is it me or does the Queen look a bit out of it? The lady-in-waiting (another presumption) sitting next to her (on our left) seems cognizant of the situation. The Queen, not so much.

But then Queens don’t have to pass a MENSA test to sit under their crown. If they did Margrethe II, Queen of Denmark, would pass with ease. Maybe that’s because Denmark has the wisdom to allow commoners access to the royal gene pool.

At any rate it is obvious that Geert Wilders has his finger on the pulse of his country.

Thanks to Green Infidel for the tip.

37 thoughts on “Geert Wilders Knows His People

      • Why do you think he is the conductor? The conductor would be wearing a tuxedo. He appears to likely be someone from the audience who seized the microphone to spread his poison.

    • He is a devout prominent muslim. Any dirty muslim is respected highly in the west by clueless westerners. And I tell you why.

      1. Why the silly “queen” and her entourage waited sheepishly,
      in docility or stupidity, meekness, and in timidity until he finished his sermon valued by the west.
      2. Why was so gently escorted, begged to leave. Why no guard knocked his him down and cracked his skull to be a lesson to others. People don’t learn a lesson on their own. They are taught the hard way. No hard way no learning.
      3. Such an Irreverent Profanation would never happen in so-called dictatorships. That’s why “democracies” hate dictatorships. Because democracies’s elites are spat on, trodden on, given fingers (I have seen done to politico, could not do anything, free society claimed ).
      4. Why does such a thing happen? Why is he/islam so bold? Because he has a strong nose. He smell weakness and stupidity. He knew there would be no dire consequences.

      5. Did the clumsy “queen” learn a lesson. Think deeply about the consequences of importing savages. Did she think why Wilders is a man of sublime thought and noble character. He should replace her. She is useless because she has no valuable words proceeding from her immature mouth. Valuable words come from valuable thoughts and ideas. ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, ” or on secularism alone. You need to discern … discriminate.

      • Well, I agree that the Muslim should have been neutralized, but not to “teach a lesson” or something; but for the rationally pragmatic reason that in our time, we need to err on the side of caution such that we reasonably conclude that any Muslim behaving provocatively in a public setting must be deemed to be a terrorist about to explode or worse.

        • Neutralizing a suspect, or erring on the side of caution, by beating the crap out of them or shooting them dead, is not in the play-book of most EU countries, at the moment. It is the American way. The Dutch handled it correctly by not overreacting. Of course this is not to say their their immigration policies are not absurd or plain stupid.

  1. It wasn’t the conductor. It was a random loony who dressed well enough (but not well enough to conduct an orchestra in tails) not to be stopped earlier. The orchestra made a dignified exit, probably with a view to saving their skins.

    • Yes, agreed. And the musicians are not responding to his particular muzzie message, in particular. They would have (wisely) behaved the same way if this loony were complaining about the performance of his favorite football team’s goalie in its most recent match.

    • He was very normal. He had the message and was delivered. He knows how to manipulate the system. And the system wardens are too stupid to know how to stop him. He won another victory. They lost. They have no resistance left in them. Truth and principles need decisive action not parroting nonsense mantras.

      (Czeslaw Milosz: “A true opium of the people is a belief in nothingness after death: the huge solace of thinking that for our betrayals, greed, cowardice, murders, we are not going to be judged.”)

      Did anything crack his skull. No. That was the sin.

    • I’ve sung with a symphony chorus and was dedicated (before health pretty much shrank my physical world) to attending classical music performances.

      I watched quite carefully–having read the linked background post–for a signal to the musicians. It’s quite subtle, but it’s there. The concertmaster (1st chair, 1st violin) was being looked at, and he moved his bow very slightly in the air. That’s why everyone made such a unified, orderly exit: the basses (closest to the stage door) first, then celli, violas, etc. This seems to have been an all-strings orchestra, as I didn’t see any wind, percussion, or brass players.

      If people would like to know, the concertmaster is *almost* the LAST person down the stage stairs, and he is carrying that bow and no violin.

      Beautifully done. The Queen was most likely in a dither of Diplomatic Paralysis: “I can’t just say ‘Arrest that Man!’ b/c it’s not Dutch, but I feel very odd about all this.”

  2. Thank you, Dymphna, for that link to .
    This transformed something that was incomprehensible into something that was merely bad journalism: we still don’t know the date of this event, the identity of the speaker (a member of the orchestra? a member of the audience?), and how he ever got on stage.

    But what is more interesting is that — thanks to the wonders of modern online advertising and the fact that the article contains the word “Muslim” — this link also included an ad link to an Islamic school in nearby New Jersey:
    A few years ago I used to get dating ads for Muslimahs who wanted to marry me (up to four of them), and now that our putative children are old enough, we are starting to get school ads for our Muslimito/Muslimita offspring.

  3. You gotta love this stuff about “Islamic da’wah”. Sounds totally harmless huh?

    Well, da’wah menas “invitation” and “islam” means surrender or submission.

    So when someone “invites someone to Islam” what they’re literally saying in Arabic is “I invite you to surrender.”

    Wonder how the Queen likes being invited to surrender to the army of Allah? Or maybe she’s being implicitly invited to surrender specifically to Saudi Arabia since they control the cube-shaped idol that all of those who have surrendered now bow to.

    Also of some interest might be the fact that this “building” (that just happens to be the same shape as the cube-shaped stones that pre-Islamic pagan Arabs used to worship) which nobody is allowed into except on cleaning day contains images such as a sun, moon, and portraits of former rulers. But this has nothing to do with idol worship because it’s “the cube”.

  4. See Jihad watch: It was 3 September, 2011. The man was “known to the police”. I imagine that means he was a known quasi-crazy person who would be likely to do something like this. He just walked up and took the microphone and I think many people at first thought he was part of the program. I’d like to find out his name and see if there’s any news on what he’s doing now. Does any one else have any more news on this? To be honest, I find him somewhat sympathetic–calm and even polite in his way. 🙂

    • Yes, very polite suggestion to surrender.

      Considering that a Dutch person one told me that he’d just surrender if the Netherlands was ever invaded again, I can see where this guy might get the idea that his surrender invitation would be accepted.

      • Well, the Queen ignored two previous attempts to communicate, so, you know, what else is a guy to do? He reminds me of one of those Templar fellows in the 3rd Indiana Jones Movie. I’ll take him over Jihad John any day.

        The Dutch are the Dutch. Their country is so small and so flat that before they even have a chance to surrender you’re already driving your tank through Belgium wondering how you missed the place…

        • The Dutch are the Dutch indeed. And wherever they have been they leave a place just a little more Dutch than it was. It is New Amsterdam that is the foundation of New York. NYC will always and ever be a center of merchants.

          The Hudson River Valley echoes with their ghosts.

  5. Why were people clapping? Not in response to the orchestra leaving (that happened within seconds) but at the end of the idiot’s speech!

  6. My blog post take on it is at Gates of Vienna is one of my favorite blogs, and I think we probably agree 98% of the time, so I hope the author forgives me if I disagree with him here slightly. Also I hope Dymphna forgives me for appearing snarky about the Dutch. For over a hundred years they were at the center of the universe. And as Dymphna points out, the contributions have been lasting…

  7. Dymphna, You say “The Dutch are the Dutch indeed. And wherever they have been they leave a place just a little more Dutch than it was.”

    Yes, and I live in one of those places. Apart from the straight-historical ,
    there is the much more interesting map of
    the alternate-history Republik* van Nieuw Nederland:
    (might be blocked for non-citizens of Nieuw Nederland)

    A fuller account (not blocked) of the history of the country is found at
    — Mark Spahn (West Seneca, Erie Province, Republik van Nieuw Nederland)

    *The “correct” spelling is “Republiek”, but spellings
    differ slightly between North America and Europe
    in both the Dutch and English languages. See

    • Speaking of the contribution of the Dutch to Western Civilization, there was that fine post many years ago by Hugh Fitzgerald, “Going Dutch”, a kind of test for any immigrant claiming to want to become a Dutch citizen:

      (I used it to test a young Dutch person I know who is quite anti-Islam, but also overly conspiratorial about Dastardly Leftists; and, perhaps not coincidentally, he scored quite low…)

      • OMG. Where/when can I move to the Netherlands? Reading the displayed portion of the test cold, I’m doing pretty well. I’m distraught that I can choose only *three* of the paintings.

        Well done. For a small nation (by UK/US standards), the Dutch have been out-sized in their effect on world history, and most of it for the better.

        • The unconscious influence of the Dutch in the areas here where they set up colonies is striking. If you are ever well enough to travel again, I recommend the Hudson River Valley and surrounding areas. Go without radio, TV, cellphones – all communication intrusions. In about two or three days, you can ‘feel’ that original influence. I didn’t expect it so the sensation was striking. That began my infatuation with things Dutch; it was sealed by exposure to the Flemish painters, and later by Dutch Catholicism – in that last, it was an unfortunate too-late as it went over the edge of the cliff of tolerance into suicide.

          Tolerance is the fatal flaw in the Netherlands’ character. Such a short step to totalitarianism. The quiet kind.

          • On my last major trip, in June 2004, I was in Belgium for a week. I visited the major art museum in Brussels on Sunday afternoon and saw, for the first time in my life, originals of the Flemish Masters and Golden-Age painting. Also a collection of Dada (I hadn’t known that it arose in Brussels).

            I collapsed pretty completely when we got back (bone-on-bone in both knees at the time due to doctors’ refusal to actually LOOK AT ME). But the spiritual uplift of the art, architecture, and beauty of Flanders is still with me.

        • And then there is the dark side…I discovered this Dutch historian, below, during a time when there appeared to be a clear danger to Geert Wilders…people were concerned he would end up like Pim Fortuyn. I can’t remember now how I found Mr. Egger. Sometimes I wish I hadn’t – knowledge can be a sad burden.

          Here’s a longer-than-usual snip:


          Marts 2008 – Arthur Legger

          If you like to think of Holland as the cradle of free speech and the Enlightenment, don’t read this.

          ‘Nobody needs permission beforehand to publish by print
          thoughts or feelings – while taking into consideration
          every person’s responsibility according to the law.’

          (Article 7, Dutch Constitution)

          Again the ruthless reflex sets in. Because that lies at the core of our Dutch character: the social annihilation of the deviating individual –including a neat political murder, every now and then (we never go after a group, that is not done after our very active partaking in the Holocaust).

          The latest news on the chronicle of the death foretold of right wing parliamentarian Geert Wilders, infamous for his bleached haircut from outer space, is that the CEOs of Dutch multinationals fear loss of profit because of Fitna. The Movie. Wilders gained notoriety because of his wish to ban the Koran and his severe criticism of islam in comparison with “our shared Dutch heritage of Humanism and Enlightenment, as it was successfully proclaimed by our highly esteemed Spinoza”. The captains of industry state that Wilders’ movie will prove too critical and, hence, will harm their age-old connections and business in the Arabic world and Indonesia (a former Dutch colony). The highly successful and erudite lawyer Gerard Spong, a very nice fellow from Surinam (independent in 1975), is hired to sue Wilders: “For irresponsibly damaging Dutch interests”. It almost goes without saying that many of these directors, managers and members of the board have been key members of the public service, previous Cabinets included, or will be in future times. The Union of IT Businessmen In The East (FME) strongly seconds their concern: “The real problem is that Wilders’ movie fits a pattern of confrontation: the Danish cartoons; the war in Iraq. The movie might prove to be the straw that breaks the camel’s back” (Intermediair 11, 13 March 2008). “Wilders, don’t do it!” prays Bernard Wientjes, the chairman of the VNO-NCW (Union of Dutch Business). “Surely you know that when it really counts the reverend is always traded for the businessman” (The Volkskrant, 15 March 2008).

          Also, the Dutch media, via their coordinating National Broadcast Institute, the NOS, issued a shared statement that they will not air Wilders’ movie “because of fear of attacks and not to give this irresponsible person a platform for his xenophobia”. The news agency of the Dutch Parliament (Nieuwspoort) will not provide Wilders with the possibility of showing his movie, because “the making of movies is not part of a parliamentarian’s work”. (The head of the NOS is always a former cabinet member.) Not surprisingly the Socialist, Christian and Liberal parties backed this blocking of Wilders (The Volkskrant, 15 March 2008).

          Sorry, we cannot censure

          Our current Cabinet, headed by prime minister Balkenende, put even more pressure on Wilders not to show Fitna. Seeking support from France and other EU members Balkenende made it quite clear that “unfortunately we cannot censure the movie of Mr. Wilders beforehand, but we strongly advise him to reconsider for reasons of State Security”. Also he asked EU understanding for Wilders’ “silly behaviour, for which damaging consequences he and he alone will be held responsible”. Also, the Cabinet demanded complete transparency of Wilders’ financial situation and of his political movement, the PVV (nine seats in Parliament) – even though this is not demanded by law (ANP News Organisation, 16 March 2008). Hans van den Broek, former minister of Foreign Affairs in three Christian cabinets during the 1990s and currently Member of the State Council – the most prestigious body of advisors of Parliament and Cabinet and directly appointed by the Crown – is significantly less scrupulous: “I understand that the Prime Minister thinks that his hands are tied, but nevertheless I most strongly advise him to stop Mr. Wilders by every means available, including total censorship, because the interests of the State, politically and economically, are in the greatest danger” (NOS TV interview, 26 March 2008).

          Still, Prime Minister Balkenende’s statement lacked nothing in clarity: If they come for you, you’re on your own. You are fully responsible for the effects you cause. You’ll have to rely on your bodyguards, we will not protect you.

          Farewell Enlightenment

          These last few weeks my foreign friends have called and asked me: “What the hell is going on in the Netherlands? How is it possible that so many Dutch politicians favour censorship and lawsuits, and that leading men of opinion openly and repeatedly compare Wilders to Goebbels and Hitler? How is this possible with your tradition of Spinoza?”

          They didn’t like my answer. Nobody likes their academic wet dreams about the 17th century cradle of Enlightenment and Freedom to be disturbed.

          I recommend the rest:

          Can’t remember now if he talks about Gregorius Nekschot. IIRC, GN “retired”.

        • That was actually posted by me, but I forgot to fill in the fields after clearing some browser data.

          That game is incredibly well done with a lot of attention to historical detail. Only problem is that because of that it’s essentially the Adobe Photoshop of strategy games. I can’t say I’m very good at it yet but I haven’t put too much time into it.

    • Thanks for the fascinating link. Burgess has a fertile imagination. The link to the maps was blocked, but I got side-tracked by some of the real people he listed anyway. Like Schuyler. It’s unfortunate that the Dutch traded the not-very-promising foothold in New Amsterdam for some spice islands. But then they were, at heart, traders and the more immediate reward of costly spices would’ve been enticing.

      There is a small town several counties over from here named Schuyler. I was surprised to see the name pop up when we moved here, as though a bit of Nieuw Nederland had somehow broken away and landed down here. New Jersey, yes. Virginia, not really.Or so I thought. I’ll have to look up the early churches in the area to see if I can find the link.

      In the wiki I read on the Schuyler who was part of the Constitutional Congress, et al, they noted his holdings in Albany, which included slaves.

  8. This video is a setup. Just a piece of propaganda. Our (former) queen has always been known for her rather leftish views and for being favourable towards islam.
    Considering the very tight security around the royal family it would be unthinkable this happened without her consent and approval, maybe even instigation. If it was not staged the security detail would be all over that man in seconds.
    I could not see who started applauding but I bet it was the queen and the rest of the monkeys followed suit as is common in those circles.

  9. I was hoping you guys did not see my countries “elite” so exposed when confronted with cultural enrichment of the third kind 🙂

  10. Simply another manifestation of The Religion That Tells Everyone What To Do. At least (this time) there was no blue-white flash cutting a swathe through the patrons. That becomes a subsequent event known as the “Or Else” phase.

  11. It is telling that it was a female orchestra member who was the first to leave the stage: a violinist immediately to the Kurd’s left (the viewer’s right). Contrary to what one commentator stated, she did not depart in haste out of fear of a bomb, she took the trouble to first pack up her violin, bow and musical score then walked away at a normal dignified pace. By my reckoning she started packing up after the first “I know its inappropriate…” and around the time Allah was first mentioned. It was a protest by her at the impropriety of what was taking place.

    After her solitary lead there was a short delay, then a sudden mass, but not complete, exodus – mostly from the orchestra members to the viewer’s left. They got up and departed sheep-like. Interestingly, the large majority of the small minority who remained for the duration of Mr Kurd’s peroration were male. Presumably they have been so enervated and emasculated by Netherlands PC culture, they are incapable of thinking for themselves and are too concerned to appear polite and respectful to act in protest at what was an outrageous intrusion. Imagine if Mr Kurd had had a bomb or gun on him?

    The whole scene was a microcosm of the stupendous gall of Islamic immigrants in the West and the West’s pusillanimous response to it.

    Mr Kurd had written to the Queen of the Netherlands proposing certain things, but surprise, surprise, she hadn’t responded to him. This non-response thus forced him into gatecrashing an orchestral performance staged for the Queen to deliver his speech. As any reasonable person does.

    Apart from the extraordinary lax security, the Dutch response was worse than pathetic. Why wasn’t a gun drawn on him the moment he uttered the word “inappropriate” – dispelling any notion that he was meant to be there – accompanied by an order that he get off the stage? Why was he allowed to finish his his rant before his sleeve was gently tugged at as if he were a Down’s Syndrome kid acting up?

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