Consider this recent article from The Telegraph entitled “Revealed: the Palestinian children killed by Israeli forces”:
More children than Palestinian fighters are being killed in the offensive on Gaza, according to the UN. The name, age, sex and location of 132 of the 155 Palestinian children killed have been collected by the Al Mezan Centre for Human Rights.
The Telegraph is allegedly conservative, yet the above text is indistinguishable from the “narrative” dispensed by The Guardian and other lefty news outlets. The media line on what is happening in Gaza and Israel right now is all but uniform across the political spectrum: reports by stringers from Gaza about bombed schools and hospitals, photos of dead children and weeping mothers on the nightly news, calls by world leaders for an immediate ceasefire, and condemnation in the UN of Israeli “war crimes”.
Occasionally a newscaster will venture off the main path to mention that Hamas terrorists have fired thousands of rockets from Gaza at civilians in Israel. And there are occasional articles about the terror tunnels used by Hamas to infiltrate Israel and murder more civilians.
Almost all major news outlets neglect to look beneath the surface to look at Hamas’ strategy of war, which the terror organization openly declares in Arabic-language media, especially those in Gaza itself. An unusual exception may be found in this opinion piece by Michael Oren at CNN, of all places:
More than a military strategy, Hamas has a media strategy. Calculatingly, Hamas employs primitive military tactics to mount a sophisticated media campaign that can threaten Israel’s basic security. And in conducting that offensive, Hamas can count on one of the world’s most powerful weapons: the international media.
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In a war with Hamas, though, Israel’s strength and morality can become vulnerability and guilt. By investing nothing in air raid sirens and bomb shelters, by hiding deep beneath neighborhoods and shooting near hospitals and mosques, Hamas ensures that Israel will invariably wound and kill civilians.
Hamas gunmen carry out attacks disguised as women and old men, fight from UN and Red Cross vehicles, store rockets in schools, and physically prevent Palestinian civilians from fleeing combat zones. This context, though, is rarely mentioned by the media when covering the civilian cost of the fighting.
As the Israeli cabinet member Naftali Bennett told Wolf Blitzer on CNN, “Hamas is committing massive self-genocide to its woman and children.”
This is the deliberate use of the civilian population of Gaza as raw material for a “humanitarian” crisis for which Israel will be blamed. Yet the international media seem unable — or unwilling — to recognize what Hamas is doing.
As Carl in Jerusalem pointed out, this is the reason why Prime Minister Netanyahu did not order a ground offensive sooner. As long as there are more dead Palestinians than dead Israelis, any effective Israeli response will be seen as a “disproportionate” use of force and “indiscriminate slaughter”. In other words, Mr. Netanyahu would have to fail in his primary duty to protect his own citizens before the United Nations, foreign political leaders, and the international media would view any Israeli military action as justified.
In summary: rather than attempt to defeat Israel in any meaningful military sense, Hamas forces the Israelis to impale themselves on the spears of relentless media body-counters. The more dead Palestinian children there are, the more opprobrium is heaped upon the Jewish state for its “disproportionate response”. The more photos of collapsed schools and clinics, the more strident the calls for ceasefire.
When the ceasefire comes — which it inevitably will, brokered by John Kerry this time — its terms will be unfavorable towards Israel. Afterwards money will pour in for the reconstruction of Gaza, and then will be diverted to replenish the stocks of missiles and replace terror tunnels destroyed by the IDF. Palestinian children will continue to be indoctrinated from their earliest years to see death as a shahid (martyr) while killing Jews as the greatest honor and highest aspiration of any Muslim. Then, in a couple of years, the rockets will once again rain down on Sderot, Ashdod, Beersheba, Tel Aviv, and Jerusalem. The subsequent response of the IDF will be monitored closely by the media and the UN, with every civilian casualty denounced.
And so the whole dreary charade will start all over again.
I mentioned a couple of weeks ago that the wave of rocket attacks from Gaza by Hamas began in June after three Israeli teenagers were kidnapped in the West Bank (and later found dead). The missiles were generally seen by the media as a response to Israeli arrests after the abductions:
The conflict was largely triggered by the killing of three Israeli teens in the occupied West Bank last month and the death on July 2 of a Palestinian youth in a suspected revenge murder.
However, when I went to look up the details, I realized my mistake: the three boys were abducted on June 12, but the current wave of missile attacks from Gaza began on June 11. That is, the rain of rockets was not a reaction to Israel’s arrest of Hamas operatives after the kidnappings. And, since both operations were carried out by the same terror group, it is safe to conclude that they were part of a concerted strategic effort on the part of Hamas.
So what is that larger strategic plan? A clue may be found in this report from Fox News:
Before the outbreak of the latest round of fighting, the militant group found itself in a serious financial crisis because a particularly tight closure by Egypt had prevented cash and goods from coming into the strip through hundreds of smuggling tunnels under the Gaza-Egypt border.
Now the picture becomes clearer: Hamas was being squeezed between Egypt and Israel, and needed to take drastic action to force Israel to ease up.
It seems likely that Hamas intended to begin missile attacks and take one or two Israelis hostage at about the same time. The pressure of all those rockets, combined with internationally brokered negotiations to free the hostages, would give the terrorists new leverage over their adversary.
However, as Israel Matzav learned back in June, the hostage-taking in the West Bank didn’t go as planned. Hamas ended up with too many hostages, one of whom was able to use his cell phone immediately after he was captured. As a result, all three had to be killed.
Hamas was left with nothing but rockets, so it stepped up its use of them, meanwhile readying its human shields.
The rest you know.
When Hamas rejected the ceasefire proposed by Egypt, it issued a statement saying that “our battle with the enemy will intensify.”
As far as I can tell, the intensification of the battle went something like this:
“Put more babies on the roof, Walid! That’ll show ’em.”
“We’re running low on babies!”
“Well, use the women, then.”
Yes, it’s a sick joke. But these are sick times.
Besides, it’s close enough to the truth.
Hat tips: JP, MC, and Vlad Tepes.
How does anyone know how many Palestians died the last several weeks? Is there a trustworthy source that you can turn to? Anyway, the conversation should really be about destroying terrorists and their infrastructure.
As far as I know we have only unverified numbers from lying Hamas.
Next time you pass a woman wearing one of those slings with a baby in it on her front, say to whomever you are waling with: “Hey look! It’s one of those new Palestinian bullet proof vests!”
Dark humour but it helps t normalize the truth.
The only point I am questioning in the otherwise excellent article is this one:
“Mr. Netanyahu would have to fail in his primary duty to protect his own citizens before the United Nations, foreign political leaders, and the international media would view any Israeli military action as justified.”
I doubt that is how it would play out. If any Islamic state managed to get a win fighting Israel, anywhere from a small military victory to total annihilation of the entire state, the UN and most of the leftist media would report it the way they would a boxing match between a man and a woman. When the man wins he is a horrible human being for fighting a woman no matter what the circumstances are behind the fight. When the woman wins, the man is a pathetic excuse for a man and clearly didn’t deserve to not be beaten up since he was able to be defeated by such a weak opponent. In fact, it looks like divine justice!
There is only one fix and that is to somehow reboot in the minds of Western civilized people that we have a right to be, and life and planet earth is better off with us in it. And it is. So it shouldn’t be that difficult if we start now.
“Almost all major news outlets neglect to look beneath the surface to look at Hamas’ strategy of war.”
It is not that major outlets and Kerrys and Hillarys and Galloways and donkeys don’t look beneath the surface, the outlets gear and adopt and then release their reports according to what British, USA and western countries in general expect of them. They expect to exonerate Muslims/Gazans and write diatribe against Israel. That way petrodollars will flow and the crooked spineless/lacking masculine equipment, reporters will be let to stay in Gaza and “do their excellent job from a danger zone” unmolested. And then the west will turn and bark at Cuba, China and Russia and North Korea, declaring emphatically that they don’t have freedom of the press. And that their democracies are false. Proof: they are not being destroyed by invaders.
“ … the outlets gear and adopt and then release their reports according to what British, USA and western countries in general expect of them.”
The media vitriol in the West against Israel’s self-defence actions is far too saturated to be attributed exclusively to the occasional useful idiots or the accumulated works of the loony left lynch mobs. In that orchestrated anti-Israel propaganda there are hints at a far deeper strategy being played out by the Western powers one that has no regard for Israel’s immediate interests.
If God forbid, Israel is defeated and all Jewish children burnt, the west will ignore it, forget about it in two seconds, even if the next day Muslims start their war with the west still they will not wake up and see the danger. Western brains have become so sluggish and lethargic, fossilized and petrified that it needs a cataclysmic event burning their fingers to make them wake up. It is not because they dislike hate and love peace, but because they understand truth as falsehood, and Islam’s lies as pure truth. Has ever the poor planet suffered from this phenomenon? Poor west the knowledge is in books and the brains are empty, especially the so called leaders of the free world. Empty words.
Sad, but true. I think the change in reality perception started with the revolution in Russia and the totalitarian movements of the twenties. Unfortunately, our ability to understand truth and reality was permanently warped by the propaganda and deception of those movements. Something the situation in Gaza now demonstrates. In my own country, this warped sense of reality displays itself as a refusal to accept that the activities of jihad-warriors in Syria has anything to do with Islam!
The new regime in Egypt would like to see Hamas destroyed. They have no time for Iranian proxies who continually cause trouble with Israel, a nation the new Egyptian regime appears to want better dialogue and friendship with while the country gets rid of its own brand of terrorism – the Muslim Brotherhood.
I hope that between the two countries some kind of treaty emerges that will seal the end of Hamas and its supporting network of fundamentalist Muslims. Until then, Netanyahu must be strong and resist the siren call of a decadent West to desist in preserving what is rightfully theirs.
The Telegraph is allegedly conservative…
Guess where this headline is from:
Hurray for Harriet Harman – the feminist interloper Labour boys just can’t silence
Harman is a cultural Marxist of low intelligence and high self-regard. Not an individual a genuinely conservative paper would celebrate. Peter Hitchens explains it here:
As with every piece of ground this party [the Tories] gives up as it retreats before the social, cultural, sexual and ultimately political revolutionaries of the 1960s left, it has no understanding of, or liking for, the things it is supposed to defend. So once it has given them up, usually by running away from a fight, it never occurs to it to recapture the ground lost. It becomes, bit by bit, the image of its opponents, until it is actually part of the revolution itself.
Hitchens blog
That’s exactly how a large part of the Republican Party behaves. To them, “compromise” means going left but a little slower. Any conservative who just wants to hold ground — forget about recovering ground — is an intransigent extremist.
I’ve notice this in, e.g., John Batchelor, a radio host who’s a good interviewer and brings on people of varying viewpoints. He’s not a bad guy. But he has a way of exclaiming in exasperation: “I don’t recognize this Republican Party anymore! It’s not my father’s Republican Party. They’re so unbending! They don’t understand the concept of compromise!” (He’s obviously talking about the Tea Party wing.)
I want to ask him: Is this “unbending” party (you imagine you see) operating in a vacuum? Did (some) Republicans decide to be stubborn just for the heck of it? Has nothing changed over the last, oh, six years that might demand vigorous resistance? And most importantly, do you recognize today’s Democratic Party as the one from your youth?
It isn’t that Batchelor approves of Obama or is completely blind to his radicalism. He just seems to believe that a properly conservative party should not put up too much resistance to a leftist party in power, regardless of its fundamentally transformational agenda or its lawless strategy.
My son (studying law at university) made an interesting point – If Jews are supposed to be running the mass media, why is it that the mass media seems to be opposed to Israel? Perhaps, he said, answering his own question, it’s because Israel seeks to be an independent nation and the mass media has a general tendency towards internationalism.
By the same token: If Jews have the world in a vise-grip of malignant power (as the paranoid anti-Semites claim), why is it such a challenge for them to hold on to a postage-stamp country, while people they’re supposedly victimizing hold dozens of countries and are making territorial gains around the globe?
By the same token: If self-identified Jews fund 70-80% of the Democrat Party, why is it such a challenge for them to PROTEST and STOP the egregious voter fraud activities, mass immigration including mass Muslim immigration, and fraudulently imposed Obamacare that DEFINE the modern Democrat Party?
Additionally, if self-identified Jews comprise a LARGE part of the American legal system as lawyers, judges, and law professors, why is it such a challenge for them to recognize and use the rule of law to STOP the Democrat Party illegality?
OK. I’ll bite. Jews are 2.2% of the American population. And you say they fund 80% of the Democrat party? From where does this figure come I wonder. Stormfront?
So if someone mentions that 80% of funds to the democrat party is donated by Jews, this means he must be a ”Nazi”?
The numbers I have seen from legitimate sources are closer to 60/70%. Now, if Catholics or WASP’s would allegedly be responsible for such a great percentage of donations, wouldn’t you consider it a worthwhile topic to discuss?
“Jews are less than 2 percent of the American population, but they are major players in the Democratic Party. Debbie Wasserman Schultz is the chairwoman of the national committee. Steve Israel heads the House reelection committee. The party’s intelligentsia and pundit class have a higher bar mitzvah quotient than the average B’nai Brith bowling team. Three of the four Supreme Court justices appointed by Democratic presidents are Jews. So are a quarter of the members of the Democratic Senate Caucus and 45 congressmen (all but one, Eric Cantor, are Democrats).
“The Washington Post has estimated that Jews provide 60 percent of the party’s major individual contributions. The actual stat, according to a Democratic insider privy to unreleased research, puts the figure closer to 80 percent. In 2004, when so-called 527 organizations provided the biggest contributions, four Democratic donors—George Soros, Peter Lewis, Steven Bing, and the Sandler family—coughed up $73 million, more than the next 20 contributors, Republican and Democratic, combined. Jews are not simply supporters of the Democratic Party. They are stakeholders.
“Like all stakeholders, Jews—and their interests—are taken seriously. Some are professional: academia, the entertainment industry (which depends on a good U.S. image abroad for much of its income), the high-tech sector, the legal establishment, financial institutions, teachers’ unions, and liberal NGOs are all disproportionately run and staffed by Jews.
“So is the party’s activist base. Perhaps the most salient Jewish voting issue is the protection of abortion rights, which is supported by close to 90 percent of all Jewish women. In other words, American Jewish support for the Democratic Party is not a decision made by a Sanhedrin in some imaginary bunker in Boca Raton. The Democratic Party is the emotional home of most Jews. The Reform Movement, America’s largest Jewish denomination, has been called ‘the Democratic Party with holidays.’ Many of the secular Jewish national organizations are simply cogs in the party machine.”
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/07/02/jewish-voters-will-stay-democratic-despite-obama-s-rocky-ties-with-israel.html
You ask why is it such a challenge for the all-powerful Jews to hold onto a postage-stamp sized country? It is a very pertinent question. Why is it only the size of a postage stamp is also a good one? After the Balfour Declaration in 1917 the promises made for a Jewish national home just got whittled away for the next 40 years. First, everything east of the Jordan River was just unilaterally hived off to create Transjordan from 78% of Mandatory Palestine with an explicit No Jews allowed policy. Then the rump 22% gets further truncated by the UN into Jewish State and a, second, Arab state.
What a winning streak for the mighty Jews!
Then for the next sixty odd years the world funds a unique ad hoc international welfare bureaucracy – UNWRA – paying to keep the children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren of the Arabs who had once resided in the area of the to-be Jewish state (for a period of only 25 months*) as human title deeds for the intended ultimate demographic swamping of Israel.
How come the almighty Jews supposedly running the media, high finance and exercising undue influence in the corridors of government couldn’t manage to stop the creation of UNWRA? The UN High Commission for Refugees already existed to deal with refugees in general. How did they let a ridiculously broad definition of what has now become a Palestinian (see below) get onto the books and also become an officially inheritable status down through multiple generations?
*One would have thought that the basic criterion for defining a “Palestinian” (or more precisely, a “Palestine refugee”) in 1949 was that the person was actually born there. But no, in its infinite wisdom the UN decided that to qualify as a “Palestinian” you only needed to have resided there from May 1946 to June 1948.
And yet, American Jews who have a HUGE sway over the United States’ immigration policy due to their legislative and judicial positions apparently approve the idea that ANYONE in the world MUST 1) be allowed to walk over our Southern border unmolested, 2) be given automatic and immediate amnesty to live forever in the USA, 3) be given the same financial welfare and other benefits accorded to citizens, 4) be encouraged to apply for fast-track citizenship rights, and 5) be allowed to chain migrate their entire extended family to the USA.
Even better, immigration control has been ceded to the OIC-controlled United Nations to determine who gets refugee status – and thus humanitarian immigration – to the USA – with the Muslims facilitating wholesale Muslim immigration to the USA while barring Christian refugees to the USA.
http://www.hope-of-israel.org/muslimrefugee.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organisation_of_Islamic_Cooperation
Actually, you do not have to have resided there at all! According to the UN itself, some of the “Palestinians” in the camps were never in Palestine nor were there ancestors ever in Palestine. They were just poor people who thought that the refugee camps were a better bet then living wherever they had been residing before.
typo: . . . *their* ancestors . .
Your son is right, but the implications of his statement are not fleshed out. Being a cultural Marxist or Internationalist is not a simple choice between apple pie or cherry. The implications of being a cultural Marxist contains within it the idea that the death of millions of innocents is acceptable if the goal of the breakdown national boundaries is finally achieved. Being a cultural Marxist also reflects a disdain for truth as a value of living. Again, the means to a Marxist end is irrelevant as long as the goal is achieved. Thus, people who support political correctness will never be drawn into a conversation about the relative merits of this or that policy or behavior.
The opposition to Israel is so intense because Jews are still engaged in the debate over good and evil, better and worse, effective versus ineffective. Jews’ pride in Israel is worthy of the deepest levels of anger by those who have given up pursuit of truth, excellence, and pride in self. These characteristics are anachronistic and antithetical to the goals of the Revolution. Such opposition does not even consider that the death of Jews is a relevant question to be considered. The Jews’ successful self-defense is a blockage on the way to a better world.
If we pull the thread of who imposed Marxism on the world, where do you suppose that thread would lead?
As you present valid points about non-Israeli jews disproportional support of the left, where do you put Israel in your analysis?
My main priority is the continuation and success of Western Christian civilization in traditionally Western Christian countries.
Where Israel supports that goal, I support Israel.
Where Jews support that goal, I support Jews.
I think that Western Christians need to study Judaism and ALL its religious texts in the SAME way that they study Islam and ALL its religious texts – with a very critical eye to how those texts exhort their followers to act towards Christians.
I think that Western Christian countries need to rein in ALL citizens and residents with DUAL loyalties – whether those people be Jews, Muslims, Indians, Latin Americans, African Americans, or American Indians. People in Western Christian countries should ONLY be permitted to maintain citizenships, passports, and voting rights for ONE country – rather than more than one country.
“And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.” Mark 3:25
Egghead (below): I’m no expert on the religious texts of my own Christian heritage, let alone the Jewish ones. However some (eg the Old Testament) largely coincide.
As I understand it, the more extreme and supremacist views in the OT were modified over many centuries by successive generations of Rabbis. Indeed this is alleged to have been a bone of contention between Mohammed and the Jews, as he felt that they’d become too tolerant and insufficiently strict.
It’s good that you have more familiarity with the scriptures than myself, but context is also important.
“As I understand it, the more extreme and supremacist views in the OT were modified over many centuries by successive generations of Rabbis. Indeed this is alleged to have been a bone of contention between Mohammed and the Jews, as he felt that they’d become too tolerant and insufficiently strict.”
Can anyone provide a source for Mark’s statement?
Mark, I agree that people need to look at context in religion. I implore Western Christians to closely examine the actual authoritative Jewish exegesis of The Old Testament.
“Traditional Jewish forms of exegesis appear throughout rabbinic literature, which includes the Mishnah, the two Talmuds, and the midrash literature.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exegesis
Jews are the first to admit that Jews read, interpret, and impart substantially different theological meanings to the The Old Testament than Western Christians do.
Western Christians who assume that Jews share ‘the same’ Old Testament theology as Western Christians are sadly mistaken.
From the Jewish Virtual Library:
“By explicitly claiming not to be a new religion, and by conceiving itself the fulfillment of the promises in the Bible (the “Old Testament”) as expressed in the *covenant with the patriarchs and in the message of the prophets, the [Christian] Church placed itself squarely on a Jewish foundation: it was the consummation of the biblical promise.”
“Had the [Christian] Church severed its ties to its Israelite antecedents and completely rejected the “Old Testament” and the “Jewish God” (as demanded by Marcion, whom the Church condemned as a heretic), then Christianity would have been a hostile but essentially separate religion. The Church, however, insistently maintained that it was the direct continuation of that divine action in history of which the election of Israel was a major part. Yet the Jews continued to exist, claiming the Bible as their own, their understanding of it as the only legitimate one and labeling Christian interpretations as heresy, falsehood, and idolatry. This mutual opposition created a climate of hostility and negation which made the Christian-Jewish relationship more ambivalent and complex, and hence, also, more pregnant with tragedy than any comparable relationship in history.”
“For the Jews, the Christian interpretation perverted the obvious sense of Scripture; for the Christians, the Jews were spiritually blind and unable to perceive the true meaning of the “Old Testament” (II Cor. 3:14f.).”
“Needless to say, the very existence of similarities merely exacerbated the conflict. For the Christians, the similarities were further proof that they were the fulfillment of everything that was valid in the “Old Covenant,” and that the Jews preserved nothing but an empty shell, a degenerate and corrupt form of a misunderstood reality. For the Jews it became impossible to see the Christians as merely a strange and completely alien religion, since they appeared as claimants to the Israelite heritage, bent on dispossessing the Jewish people of the validity and authenticity of its religious existence.”
“Christianity, especially after it had ceased to be a Jewish heretical sect, became a dominant religion, and assumed its medieval Catholic forms (including the cultic use of images), considered by Jews to be idolatrous. The fact that for many centuries Jewish philosophy was influenced mainly by Muslim thought only strengthened this view, since Islam shared with Judaism a conception of God which could be described as more monotheistic than that of Christianity. Rabbinic authorities debated whether the laws and injunctions concerning commerce and contacts with idolators also applied to Christians. To the Jews the Christian world appeared as the incarnation of Rome, symbolized by Edom or Esau, and as the evil power of this world bent on destroying Jacob, which – but for God’s promise and mercy – would have succeeded.”
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/christianity.html
Jews do run or own nearly all major media corporations, this isn’t some sort of conspiracy but a verifiable fact. The fact that they have no bond with the interests of white gentile Americans surely does influence their political leanings. No different then Rupert Murdoch explaining how his background as an immigrant is the reason that he supports mass-immigration and Amnesty. Obviously his business interests and noted philosemitism are other factors.
So … verify it for us.
Find out the Presidents and CEO’s of all the major media companies. Find out what their religion.
That hould be very easy for someone of your immense intelligence to do. Give us names, religion and total numbers.
Instead of making an UNVERIFIED statement.
Can you do that? Until you do so you are just spewing.
We’ll get back here tomorrow to read your VERIFIED results.
Apparently I made a hostile statement, instead of simply observing that most major media corporations are run or owned by Jews.I have verified it in the past, as it takes only about 10/20 minutes of googling(less then 2 minutes per company) If you would like to verify it, the internet is at your disposal.
Umm, lets take News Corporation, the worlds second largest news publishing company and owner of highly influential “broadsheets” such as The Times (of London) and the Wall St Journal and many, many others. It’s founder Rupert Murdoch is not Jewish. Nor are any of his children sprinkled through in high executive positions. None of the Managing Editors of News Corporation’s papers are Jewish. None of the top executives: COO or CFO are Jewish.
As a public company one can buy shares in News Corporation and the second biggest privately owned chunk is owned by Prince Al-Waleed nephew of the king of Saudi Arabia.
It is legendary that the Washington Post was “Jewish-owned”- long-time owner/proprietor Katherine Graham was born Katherine Meyer. Her father was Jewish, her mother was Lutheran hence Jews don’t regard her as Jewish. She married a non-Jew.
I’d always thought the New York Post was Jewish-owned, but I was wrong – it’s been owned by News Corp for a long while.
The Jewish Sulzberger’s publish the New York Times, but a cursory examination of its executives and senior editors shows one guy called Rosenthal as Opinion Editor. I Googled a few of the non-Jewish names there and can’t find any “hidden” Jewish backgrounds.
The New York Daily News is owned by the Zuckerman family since 1993. I suspect they may be Jewish 😉
So I’d be most grateful if somebody could identify for me the Jewish owned and/or run newspapers in the world.
If you do not cite your sources, you cannot expect anyone to believe you.
And it appears that you have an agenda.
Ok, if that’s the case, why then does the mass media ‘give the impression’ that it opposes Israel and supports its enemies? It’s bizarre. I don’t get it – but then I am only ‘themaninthepub’.
I’ve commented in this forum previously that Israel is itself suffering the problems associated with multiculturalism – the same multiculturalism that is trumpeted by almost all Western media. Where’s the sense?
There must not be a ceasefire by Denis MacEoin at Gatestone Institute
“Even in its weakest moments, would Britain have risked a ceasefire with Nazi Germany during World War II — knowing that Hitler habitually broke his promises?”
http://bit.ly/1pQxrA7
Hamas’ guidelines for manipulating the truth … sorry reporting on the conflict in Gaza.
Since 1997, Hamas as been designated a foreign terrorist organization by the U.S. State Department. If the designation isn’t enough, here is the summary from the State Department’s annual report to Congress:
Prior to 2005, Hamas conducted numerous anti-Israeli attacks, including suicide bombings, rocket launches, improvised explosive device (IED) attacks, and shootings. Hamas has not directly targeted U.S. interests, although US citizens have died and been injured in the group’s attacks against Israeli targets. . . .
Hamas fought a 23-day war with Israel from late December 2008 to January 2009. From November 14-21, 2012, Hamas fought another war with Israel during which it claims to have launched more than 1,400 rockets into Israel. Prior to the confrontation, approximately 750 rockets had been fired into Israel from Hamas-governed Gaza, including one that killed three civilians in Kiryat Malachi. Despite the Egypt-mediated ceasefire between Israel and Hamas in 2012, operatives from Hamas and Palestine Islamic Jihad coordinated and carried out a November bus bombing in Tel Aviv that wounded 29 people. In 2013, the Government of Israel continued to hold Hamas, as the dominant organization in effective control, responsible for the attacks emanating from Gaza; and Israeli officials point to these attacks as additional proof that Hamas has not abandoned terrorism.
Three Questions For Hamas Apologists.
Hamas, like a Democratic politician, cannot be trusted. The mainstream media is leftist internationalist and cannot be trusted.
I like Bachelor’s show for the most part, especially if I need to fall asleep. He is much deeper into his topics than I can comprehend or follow, as he quite often references obscure sources or takes threads that lose me.
Most American Jews vote Democrat it is true But what are your sources for 70-80% of all funding for the Dem party coming from Jews? Since Jews are 2.2.% of the population that does not sound accurate at all. Diatribes are not necessary here. Just statistics and sources please.
By the way,
In 2012 69-70% of Jews voted for Obama.
That’s substantially down from the reported 74-78% who voted for Obama in 2008.
Just think, if the general population of Obama voters had changed their vote in 2012 by the same percentage as Jewish voters did, Obama would have lost.
To put it another way, if only 5-6% of the general population of Obama voters of 2008 had changed their minds in 2012 (as happened with Jewish voters) Obama would have lost.
I’m holding out some hope that this small percentage but influential part of the American population is beginning to smell the coffee. Too many of them are among the academic, intellectual and financial elites and it is the elites who support multi-culti mass immigration. There is definitely a class difference among American Jews, with the more orthodox in general being less affluent and much more likely to vote conservative. However, since the more affluent liberal Jews are not replacing themselves in the population and the orthodox have more children, the Jewish vote should trend conservative in the next generation or two. I just wish it were happening more quickly.
Addendum to previous comments: I didn’t mean that I think that too many Jews are among the elites. They have earned it. What I meant was that it is too bad that our elites tend to favor multiculturalism and mass 3rd world immigration.
Source: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/07/02/jewish-voters-will-stay-democratic-despite-obama-s-rocky-ties-with-israel.html
As Mark Twain said, there are lies, damned lies and statistics.
60% (or even 80% according to “unreleased research” and a Dem party “insider”) of the major “individual” contributions does not translate into 60-80% of party funding. (Even if it’s accurate and we have only this lefty writers’s say so).
It’s the same kind of mistake that lefties make when they think that taxing “the rich” will pay for out-of-control spending and deficits. Any genuine economist will tell you that is fallacious and not possible.
This leftist writer naturally wants to believe and wants the Daily Beast audience to believe that Jewish voters will forever stay with the Dems no matter what. Despite the fact that there is beginning to be a gradual peeling away from the Dem party.
It is true that the big money elites, Jew and non-Jew alike support mass immigration. Nancy Pelosi, the non-Jewish counterpart of Debbie Wasserman Schultz, exemplifies this.
As I said before, it’s a shame (or tragedy) that our elites (financial, academic, media, intellectual–both Jew and non-Jew) largely support this view. And that includes many if not most of the Republicans.
I find it interesting and encouraging that Jews are present–out of all proportion to their numbers in the population–in the Counterjihad movement.
Everyone who helps is an asset. 🙂
Everyone who harms should be repudiated. 🙁
Of the many public and private organizations that ALSO donate to the Democrat Party, how many do you think are owned and/or managed by Leftist Jews? Just saying….
Yeah, unfortunately Jews contribute out of all proportion to their numbers to charities of all kings and to foundations. Unfortunately many of these foundations, including many big ones, have a left-wing bent–sometimes in opposition to the original intent of their founders. I’m thinking of the Ford Foundation for example. And then there is Bill Gates. Oh wait, Bill Gates isn’t Jewish. And then there are the evil Koch Brothers; oh wait, they contribute to the Republicans. And maybe they’re not even Jewish. And then there is Sheldon Adelman who contributes to the Republican establishment. One problem is that the Republican establishment is almost as bad as the Democrats on a number of important issues.
It may be important to remember that years ago when the Republican party was more conservative, Jews were not welcome and they were certainly not welcome in Republican country clubs. The Democrats were always much more welcoming to Jews. I think that the Democrats on the whole have been smarter. And frankly, I can see why Jews would not flock to join groups with people like yourself, who, with all due respect, appear to have great hostility toward them.
I remember some of the conversations in previous threads in which you stated that Jews in particular should be very grateful to the United States. You appeared to think that they weren’t or something of the sort. I think we should all be grateful for the United States. But my point is that I don’t think that you know that Jews have been in America before the beginning of the Republic.
There were Jews who came with Christopher Columbus (who thought that he might find the missing tribes of Israel and that Hebrew speakers might be useful). During the Revolutionary War Hayim Solomon raised money for the revolution and for George Washington and the continental army continually including one particularly dire time when there were no funds at all for the army; Washington called upon Solomon and Solomon came through. He spent time imprisoned by the British but escaped. After the revolution Washington declared him to be a hero of the revolution. Solomon died in poverty unlike most of the Founders who managed to do well enough for themselves.
So Egghead, you should be very grateful to this Jew because without him there might never have been a United States.
A small minority, other Jews fought militarily; some of their names are known.
I’ll end this post by saying that hostility is probably not the best approach to use to get people on your side.
Your arguments are meant to distract.
But, I am focused in my realization that American Jews have a HUGE opportunity and ability to stop the current corruption being perpetrated by the Democrat Party – and their silence equals consent – and, it often seems intent, to remaking this nation to be a nation that actively persecutes Christians who practice Christianity!
Yes, I am hostile about voter fraud – intended to disenfranchise the Christian majority.
Yes, I am hostile about immigration fraud – meant to impoverish the Christian majority.
Yes, I am hostile about Obamacare – used to enforce persecution of Christians following their religion.
Yes, I am hostile about gay marriage – also used to enforce persecution of Christians following their religion.
It is IRRELEVANT to me what the Republicans do because 1) Democrats are the party in power, and 2) Democrats are assiduously working to stay in power permanently – using extremely corrupt means.
It is IRRELEVANT to me that Republicans were unwelcoming to Jews in the past. In the here and now, Jews are major supporters of the Democrat Party which is literally seeking to overthrow the Constitution of the United States of America.
When I said that Jews should be grateful to the Christians in the USA that is because MY direct relatives risked life and limb in a foreign war to save others including Jews. My grandfather who fought in Italy was starving to the point where he was literally eating grass! But, Jews today give a great impression that Jews are ungrateful for such Christian sacrifices – and simply blame Christians for the actions of Nazis who were NOT Christians – Nazis who murdered MORE Christians than Jews – although that fact is mightily obscured.
The statistically insignificant amount of Jews who helped found the United States are appreciated, but the reality is that the United States was founded by Christians who believed and practiced Christianity – and risked their lives, limbs, and property for the benefit of the new nation fully intended to be a Christian republic – rather than an large atheist commune – or Jewish oligarchy – or combination.
To be clear: I am NOT interested in getting people on my side. I am interested in conveying a message that God wants people to hear – a reminder that people have free will choice to perform moral actions.
The actions of the modern Democrat Party are rooted in sin; but it is PEOPLE who enliven the Democrat Party; so it is PEOPLE who need to be called to change – to STOP sinning against God.
What I think is IRRELEVANT. What God thinks is IMPORTANT. It would be best if the PEOPLE who support the Democrat Party began to remember God and abide by his ten commandments.
It looks to me like the bloke in the picture is rolling out the hose to water his plants, not some detonator cord. Stop shilling for The Evil Jooz, GoV!
Typo: . . . Jews contribute out of all proportion to their numbers to charities of all *kinds* . . .