Last night Vlad Tepes posted about a Russian group that “seeks to ruin perfectly good pork by burying it near Russian mosques”:
As I have stated before, this accomplishes nothing except telling the authorities who to nab when it comes to those who would defend their culture and people from increasingly hostile Islamic invasion. Nonetheless, people will do this. Playing by enemy rules is always a bad thing as they can change them at will. So using pig products on Muslims only makes the user a target and weakens the rest of us while giving Muslims a good laugh.
An interesting discussion ensued in the comments section on his post. Selected excerpts (edited for punctuation and spelling) are reproduced below:
|Softly Bob:||“Nonetheless, people will do this. Playing by enemy rules is always a bad thing as they can change them at will. So using pig products on Muslims only makes the user a target and weakens the rest of us while giving Muslims a good laugh.”
I disagree. Knowing your enemy’s weakness is a good thing. Muslims are slaves of their rules. If they can’t even reform their religion into something more peaceful (because Allah’s rules are unchanging and for all time) then nothing is going to make them suddenly accept pork as clean and harmless just because their foes uses it against them.
If Muslims fear pork, then fight them with pork. If Muslims fear black dogs then fight them with black dogs. If Muslims are afraid to burn in Hell, then convince them that Hell awaits them.
If Muslims despise music then make music. If Muslims want to ban alcohol, then get merry and vomit beer into their ugly faces
Allowing Muslims to avoid pork by bowing down to halal demands in schools and prisons has been a complete disaster for us infidels.
We should give them nothing that is halal and only give them that which is haram.
We should make them face pork, in fact it should be shoved down their throats and in their faces. They don’t understand weakness, they only respect strength.
Pork, pork and more pork.
Give them what is unclean and make them like it. No compromise and no surrender!
|Eeyore [Vlad’s own identity]:||Softly Bob: Well reasoned but from a faulty premise. Muslims are not slaves to their rules but to their goal, which is worldwide domination and complete subjugation of the unbeliever, and the rules are a distant second.
The 19 hijackers that pulled off the 9-11 attack all spent the night before drinking at strip joints. There was no penalty in terms of rewards in the afterlife. Islam is quite clear that you can do what you want if you are in pursuit of the main goal, which of course is jihad.
The prohibition on pork is not so much a major weakness for Muslims but a weapon to be used against us. They make a big deal about pork because it is a way to force us to change our culture to suit them. It is our weakness in a way, not theirs. For example, I bet you anything that lots of religious Muslims work in the food chain dealing with pork products if for no other reason than they can do what they want to the products and know they are only hurting kuffar as religious Muslims won’t eat it. Knowing this, we might think we are safer eating halal and they win either way.
In Egypt pigs are common, as the Zabbaleen use them to eat garbage they collect in Cairo etc. It wasn’t until the usual Islamic moronic non-understanding of Swine Flu that they bothered to go and slaughter the pigs thinking they were the source of the potential epidemic, but the Muslims weren’t that bothered about the pigs overall. They felt in control of Egypt so they didn’t care about the minority Christian population and their livestock so much. Here it is different. They can use political correctness to force us to change our symbols, kid’s stories, diets and school purchases all to make Islam the center point of our decisions. If they want to build a mosque they will. If they think that pig blood deconsecrates the ground then they will have an imam mutter some tard incantation and reconsecrate it. That is the thing about magic and superstition. The rules change faster than they do with technology. Pretty much every religion does that, and worse. If a government trying to show how sanctimonious they are is made to feel the heat for someone using a pig to stop a mosque the government will use our tax dollars to pay for it just to teach us all a lesson.
If this hasn’t already happened somewhere in Europe and more than once I will give up pizza for 6 months. Hell, I would bet that a Muslim in fact planted pig parts at a potential mosque site for exactly this reason. To get sympathy and public money to rebuild. I know for a fact they have done this in England repeatedly with arson they blamed on others and Australia with fake vandalism and in the US with ‘blasphemy’ which had a curiously Arabic syntax and was written to be seen from one camera view and not from any other.
None of the things you list they are afraid of. They know we are afraid of losing these things, though, and they delight in that process. What they are afraid of is that we wake the up and stop caring what they want, and remember that we get to make the rules in our own house no matter what they want or what they claim their religion demands.
If we can just manage that and openly talk about ending Islamic influence in our nations, then you will get to see them afraid and in retreat. But these attempts to judo what we think is their weaknesses really does just give them a laugh. Read Muslim sites on it sometimes
|There was a site in Poland where a megamosque was planned; a pig head or two was buried and they just threw them away and built the mosque. I’ll try and find the relevant articles if you want. But I do know of several people who have been busted trying to do this and going to jail for something stupid and ineffective. It’s like in the movies where someone tries to kill someone with rat poison. Most rat poison isn’t a poison at all but an anticoagulant that requires the rat to eat at least its own body weight in the stuff before they die of internal hemorrhaging. But enough people believe it that police often arrest people who try to kill others using it because the cops know that the perp thinks it will work. See what I mean? Similar scenario.
If you want to stop a mosque, call Gavin Boby. The widget is at the top of the page. Its called, “Love Thy Neighborhood”
|Gavin Boby:||Hi Vlad,
Thank you for the little plug at the end! I agree with you. People who try this method are:
Merely an embarrassment — technically on our side, in the sense that an untrained Russian serial rapist of Berlin women in 1945 was on our side.
Mosques have been built on former abattoir sites. Plus Kaffirs are lower than pigs in the list of ‘najasat’ (unclean things — search for “Sistani Najasat”) and Muslims have triumphed about turning churches into mosques since Mohammed.
Leaving a bacon slice on mosque steps takes 10 times the effort that it does for a Muslim cleaner to pick it up and dump it in a bin while muttering some incantation.
This is a struggle against evil. The same as has happened throughout history, with the same excuses dressed up as sophistication, with the same brains-to-custard tantrums dressed up as patriotism, and with Burke’s truth still holding: ‘All that’s necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing’.
We are motivated by love for people, however much you despise that thought. For mankind to be happy, evil must be defeated, and we will do it — you can invest on that. But we will win by the discipline of our formations, not by succumbing to the urge to behave like scum.
|don c:||The point about Muslims relaxing the rules when they have total dominance is something that many readers I’m sure have experienced at first hand. They don’t always do it, and not everywhere to the same degree, but it’s always an option. That it’s an option shows that the howls of outraged religious sensibility over pork, sex and alcohol and so on in the West are largely strategic. A few examples:
Homosexuality is a capital crime in Islam. But as everyone here knows, it is ubiquitous in Islamic countries. A Western gay man so inclined can get, what’s the delicate word for gangbanged, in Saudi Arabia by Saudi military officers so long as he is discreet. So the country has a surfeit of gay Western contract workers who think they’ve died and gone to heaven, who make lots of money and never leave.
A Western woman getting on in years, or simply not getting any, can visit any number of Muslim-majority countries and readily pick up a Muslim guy half her age. She may need to give some thought to where she takes him.
As a Western businesswoman visiting Dubai, you might be well-advised not to have a drink in the hotel bar, but in Dubai you can have a drink in a hotel bar.
You can’t have a drink in a bar in Saudi Arabia, except perhaps on certain select compounds, but you can join the long line of Saudis queuing to get over the bridge on the weekend to have a dram (or a drab) in Bahrain.
If you want to fry up a pork chop in the Emirates, you go to a designated supermarket and buy one. It will be in a special section and overpriced, but there it will be.
So observation supports the point that unless the mullahs are really having their way with a Muslim-majority country, white kaffirs with Western passports, and many Muslims, frequently do things even in conservative Gulf countries that Muslims are supposed to find intolerable, but which, as long as it’s not in their faces (if that’s not where they want it) they don’t.
At the same time, it must of course be remembered that these are not rights protected by law, but exceptional liberties generously bestowed by Muslim masters and liable at any moment to be taken away. The penalty can be harsh. Also, you don’t want to have dark skin or the wrong passport. That is the celebrated tolerance in Islam.
What might be happening to pork chops in the food processing chain in Dar al Harb is food for thought.
|Eeyore:||Here is another example to the point from today’s news. Notice how often Muslims use Korans as weapons as in this case, or at Guantanamo Bay where Muslim prisoners routinely hollowed out Korans and hid weapons and things in them. Remember, they riot and kill and burn things when an infidel so much as looks at one the wrong way.
I can’t help but agree with Vlad and Gavin. The only thing that pork-intensive operations do is to drive otherwise uncommitted public sympathy to the side of the Muslims.
Our information war, if it can be won, will be won at the margins: people who haven’t made up their minds, or who haven’t been paying attention, will be pushed towards one side or the other by the most effectively presented information. Playing games with pig parts is not effectively presented information.
Islamic law is very specific about the circumstances under which Muslims may break their own rules. Those circumstances fall into two broad categories:
|1.||When Muslims live in territory dominated by infidels, where Islamic law is not dominant, and|
|2.||Whenever it serves the cause of advancing Islam to break the rules.
As you can see, the circumstances under which pork attacks occur are covered by both of these rules. Muslims may safely ignore the desecration of their turf, and build the mosque on the site before the pig’s blood has even dried.
Like so many other tactics used in the current war, the pork gambit is a mug’s game. It sucks up our time and energy and arouses animus against us, while the Muslims just laugh at us and keep on doing what they were doing anyway.
Note: The title of this post is taken from an old S. Clay Wilson comic, ca. 1969. The meaning of the original was obscure, although understood to be vaguely obscene. I chose it because it contains the word “pork”, and I like the sound of it.