What Happened in Luton?

Last night I wrote about a Facebook message from Kevin Carroll, the leader of the EDL, about the rape of a child in a restroom in a Luton school.

Since then, thanks to additional information kindly supplied by commenters on the post, I have learned that the Bedfordshire police have denied that such an incident occurred (also on Facebook, but I don’t have the URL), and that they are investigating whether anyone broke the laws against incitement by posting inflammatory false information on social media.

Long-time readers know that we are committed to truthful reporting here at Gates of Vienna. In this particular case, I’m anxious to learn more. I know what Kev said, and I know what the police said. In my personal experience, the EDL has a better track record than the police when it comes to telling the truth about culturally enriched sexual predation in England. It took law enforcement and the Crown Prosecutor many years to admit that “grooming and pimping” by “Asians” was a reality — and in fact a mass epidemic — and that the EDL were right all along.

So I’m keeping an open mind. I’m interested in acquiring more information, and I don’t expect anything useful about the incident to come from the British MSM. Therefore, I’d welcome it if any of our British readers can supply specific information that addresses one or more of the following questions:

1.   Is there anyone willing to corroborate the story, on the record?
2.   Is there an angry parent or other relative who has been identified and quoted?
3.   Has the specific school been identified?
4.   Has any police official made a public statement about the case, except on Facebook?
5.   What are the latest local rumors about it in Luton?
 

Any relevant information would be welcome. But spare me the invective, please, on either side of the issue. I’ve heard it all before.

41 thoughts on “What Happened in Luton?

  1. I am sorry that I do not have information on the alleged offence mentioned above. But would we please put the record straight on Muslim rape gangs in the UK. It was the BNP who attempted to draw attention to these outrages against young white British girls and it was their leader who had to bear the brunt of the state’s reaction. Instead of acting against the criminals, the British establishment, incredibly, attempted to jail the whistle blower Nick Griffin for “stirring up racial hatred”. Even at this stage, with abundant proof available that these crimes were committed and are still being committed, there is resistance in some quarters to reveal the scope of the problem.

    • This is similar to the treatment the Tea Party has rec’d in this country. I am so relieved that the criminal tax collection people will be brought to justice for their strong-arm tactics like audits and long, personally invasive questionnaires. But only for those on the Right, of course.

    • The British police side with Muslims when rapes and other violations are perpetrated by Muslims. And police obey their masters, Their masters obey the higher masters who were “democratically” elected in a country that prides itself to be the cradle of democracy. This phenomena is prevalent in all European countries and Canada, USA,Australia and New Zealand. Go and elect to the office your enemies and call it democracy! People need conscience before democracy.

    • Quote:
      It was the BNP who attempted to draw attention to these outrages against young white British girls and it was their leader who had to bear the brunt of the state’s reaction.
      end

      Dead wrong.
      The “young white British girls” bore the brunt of the crimes and the state’s reaction to them.
      If you are looking for the aggrieved party in this case, it’s the one that has been silenced by several millennia of shame. The invader knows this and uses it against the West, against YOU.
      So what are you, what are we, going to do about it?
      How do we make freedom and the free safe in Western societies?

      • Indeed Gothe,
        the question remains, “What are you going to do about it”?

      • I did not attempt to diminish the dreadful effects that these crimes had on the young girls and was merely highlighting the state’s reaction to the whistleblower in order to emphasise what we are up against. This should have been evident. And the fact remains that it was the BNP that first drew attention to the problem. As far as we as individuals are concerned, the only thing we can do at present is to write to blogs such as this in order to redress the imbalance that is going unchallenged in the mainstream media and to vote against parties who support the status quo.

        • Ann Cryer-former Labour MPfor Keighley was one of the first people to speak out in public about this and she was ignored and/or treated as deranged by the politically correct. The BNP are racist [people whom I hold in low regard] who were for many years more outspoken in their anti black racism and anti semitism until they latched onto Islam as a more rewarding vehicule for vote garnering. Opportunist [undesirables] as well and little good it’s done them.

          • Black people are allowed to agitate for blacks in white Christian countries. Jewish people are allowed to agitate for Jews in white Christian countries. Muslims are allowed to agitate for Islam in white Christian countries. Atheists are allowed to agitate for atheists in white Christian countries. Sodomites are allowed to agitate for sodomites in white Christian countries.

            Only whites are deemed to be racists when whites agitate for whites in white Christian countries – which are being quickly and systematically de-whited and de-Christianized by ‘non-racist’ blacks, Jews, Muslims, atheists, and sodomites.

            Come back in a few years and see how well you like living in your de-whited and de-Christianized countries….

  2. What is obvious through all these stories is the pattern of cover-up and silence by the MSM. Eventually the façade cracks- it has to because of the huge numbers of victims:

    Top detective blasts ‘culture of silence’ that allows Asian sex gangs to groom white girls… because police and social services fear being branded racist

    Our MSM is similar: utterly terrified of being seen as racist – or as we say at GoV, “waaycist”. It has become so obvious even in important stories that one looks for alternate accounts if race was a motivating factor. That is, if white boys beat up blacks, no problem with the truth – the race factor will be front and center in an MSM story. But when it’s blacks being the aggressors, not a word about color is ever written.

    In other words, to figure out what really happened it is crucial to have a cheat card which tells what code is operant among the MSM purveyors of infotainment.

    One has to be a Sherlock Holmes in digging for the reality behind the headlines. For news reports which involve black-on-white aggression, you could call it “the dog that didn’t bark” syndrome. The unspoken agreement among jornolists is to maintain the wall of silence built by our politically correct culture; their honor code is a clear and present danger to Truth but then the real story is not the main driver in ‘news’. Besides, you can’t underestimate the shunning which will put individual reporters at risk if they fail to adhere to the rules. Their code ensures silence. Or at least it does until the tide of wrong-doing rises so high they can no longer maintain their wall.

    In the UK the documented cowardice of public “servants” has permitted – even increased – the suffering of those victims who are at the mercy of criminals who use them in their sex-trafficking businesses. But the collusive, corrosive acts of deliberate silence by these ‘officials’ – police and social workers – who draw down a tax-payer funded salary is no less wrong than that of the fearful MSM.

    In a cohesive, robust culture based on the rule of law there is an unwritten covenant between the public and their ‘public servants’. What makes the covenant viable is the trust invested by the public in the absolute integrity of those whose task it is to provide for public peace and order. Just one symptom of our cultural disintegration is the extent to which the public no longer trusts its ‘protectors’.

    Thus we have –

    (a) social workers seeming to act on the whim theory, often wreaking havoc on families who fail to live up to the workers’ own personal views of what constitutes the ‘welfare’ of children.
    (b)Police who appear to become more paranoid (e.g., not permitting their pictures to be taken, or standing by while groups go on the attack) and less vigilant in maintaining public order.
    (c) judges who hand down whimsical sentences to those who appear before them, particularly native ethnic Britons without the money for competent counsel.
    —————————
    The press have no such over-arching covenant with the public who buy its wares. Thus they are free to broadcast whatever lies will keep them in good standing with whomever signs their paycheck. For their readers? Seems as though “Caveat emptor, fools” is the underlying jornolistic ethic.

    Someone ought to do an opinion poll to see just where these folks line up in the public’s trust. Is there *any* group of public officials or purveyors of ‘news’ that people trust?

    BTW, it would be of interest to learn where Mr. Carroll received his information regarding this brutal story. It stands to reason that his source is local (since he is too) and I would bet that he trusted whomever it was who told him about this event.

    From there it breaks down, though. Having worked in the victim field for a long time, I know the sad realities of scared little kids (not to mention frightened adults) who will back down from their stories if the pressure becomes too great. Kids are already twice vulnerable – (1) simply from being children & facing the gauntlet of their sneering peers, and (2) the exponentially rising humiliation of being required to repeat the story of their trauma over and over…and often ending up not being believed or being coerced into changing the tale in order to make life easier for the adults in charge.

    • That is the bitter truth of a democracy without conscience. Oh British politicians needn’t have Christian religion or conscience. They have “democracy” That’s enough.

      • What they have is an errant understanding of democracy. They made the serious mistake of thinking they could institutionalize or crystallize democracy in society. It cannot be done. Democracy is a practice engaged in by the individual. It should be something chosen, not something imposed from above or even below.
        Wherever you see it imposed, it truly is corruption.
        I would refer you to the Terror and the Arab Spring for my examples.

    • What is obvious through all these stories is the pattern of cover-up and silence by the MSM. – Dymphna

      Not so apparent at first glance is yet another despicable pattern. Check barons email for details.

  3. Nothing will happen until the general public is angry enough to make something happen, a few years back a newspaper tried to name and shame paedophiles in UK, this caused some disturbances which ended up with the house of a paediatrician being ransacked. The Paulsgrove mob is not famous for its intellect (I grew up in the next town).

    Now the subject is taboo. There is massive resentment in UK, and it could bubble over very easily. I would not like to have to write about this in the UK media, one wrong word and a lynching spree would be the result. This should have been nipped in the bud, but the authorities dithered, now I think, lives will be lost, and the wrong people will end up in gaol.

    • ” I would not like to have to write about this in the UK media, one wrong word and a lynching spree would be the result. ” MC in Sderot, this [ordure] has been going on for decades and only now are the OB (Old Bill-Police) doing anything about it as communities, well the English ones anyway, are baying for blood mate.
      I can see things getting worse before they get better.

  4. Dear Dymphna, This is one of the sites that I trust implicitly to tell the truth about what is going on in the world today. In order to maintain this trust wouldn’t it be better if you didn’t reproduce stories of this nature without some form of corroboration ? Lies and rumours are the stock in trade of the left. Conservatives have a high regard for the truth, although, to be fair, you have added a note of caution as soon as doubts are raised as to the veracity of the story.

    • Phil —

      I’ll weigh in, since this one is mostly my doing.

      Given the nature of this topic, and the repression currently in force in Britain, much of what gets reported here is by necessity word-of-mouth stories.

      You’ll notice that I’m very careful in the way I phrase my intros. I don’t say “such-and-such happened”, but rather “Tommy Robinson reported” or “Kevin Carroll said”. That is, I report what I know is true — that someone said these things.

      And, as I said in the post, I trust the EDL a heck of a lot more as a source of information than I trust the police, the Luton town council, or the MSM.

      If this incident turns out to be an EDL fabrication, as its detractors claim, I’ll post a prominent correction and retraction, as is my habit. And, unlike The New York Times, my correction will have exactly the same prominence as the original post. And from then on, of course, I would no longer trust the EDL as a source of original information. Which would be very sad.

      If I had to wait until I had verified affidavits from three separate witnesses, I would be forced to postpone some items for weeks or months — if I ever got to post them at all. That’s just the way this business works.

      • How are EDL supposed to make up for the neglect and complicity of the media?

        At a meeting of leftwingers recently, a muslim from Tower Hamlets told us of how there had been a pro-democracy/anti-sharia demonstration by some muslims in that borough. The protesters were attacked by 1000s of muslims from East London Mosque; the attack went on for hours, and the police were there throughout most of it. He was so angry that this story had been suppressed by the local London news and the national news.

        In June 2010, there was to be an EDL demo in Tower Hamlets (it was called off the week before, because the confernce they were opposing was cancelled). But still the fascist UAF had a demonstration on the designated day, and whipped up 1000 muslims into rioting. The riot spread throughout Tower Hamlets, and resulted in innocent white people being attacked by muslims. The media ignored the riot and the attacks.

        But it’s not just around muslims where the media are so selective in their reporting/investigations.

        I don’t move in powerful circles, I am not privy to insider information, and I don’t even read gossip rags or watch such rubbish on TV. Yet as far back as I can remember, I remember people saying “Jimmy Saville is a paedophile”. I know the rich and powerful get away with murder, so it didn’t surprise me that nothing was ever done about these rumours. When he died and the whole thing was blown wide open (probably to detract from the spate of prosecutions of muslim child-raping gangs), I started to ask others around my age if they had heard these stories too. Many said they had. So, if for decades we had been hearing these stories, how come the media didn’t follow up on them? Oh wait, they did. And the BBC decided to cancel the programme rather than expose him to criticism. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9609865/Jimmy-Savile-BBC-pulled-Newsnight-documentary-inappropriately.html

        Muslims get £214k from the government to advertise to get other muslims to report “attacks”. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/deputy-prime-minister-extends-funding-to-tackle-hate-crime-against-muslims After a year, the worst attack they came up with (one that the police had already dealt with) was the case of a muslim boy having cigarette smoke blown in his direction. This “attack” was all over the national media for days.

        With ample evidence that the authorities have ignored/marginalised attacks on white people for decades, where is the “Tell Mama” for white people? Where’s the hotline for us to report racist/religious abuse?

        In 2008, when a gang of muslims went into a gay bar and attacked the customers as a reprisal for one of their members being sent to prison for a few years (for paralysing one of the pub’s customers), this attack was not reported. http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2011/08/22/comment-east-london-needs-a-show-of-pride/ It was not reported in the national media, it was not reported in the local media, it was not repoted in the gay media. Even though there must have been 20 to 30 victims who witnessed the attack. This is the only report I can find on it by an eye-witness. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IZY-USdLXl4 Notice that it is some obscure gay tv channel, who distribute their material via YouTube.

        The national and local media are as much involved in suppressing the truth as they are in distributing information.

    • That’s a fascinating story. The Chicago Police Department should have something similar in place for the southside where hundreds die every year.

      However, notice they’re being called out for white gang violence:

      A judge at Luton Crown Court yesterday condemned the gang violence.

      Kyle Beckford, 22, was sentenced to 24 years for killing Delaney Brown, 19, by driving a stolen BMW at him last year.

      I’m definitely not complaining about the new police vigilance, and I’m glad the police have accepted the obvious fact that when you outlaw guns, you give guns to the outlaws. Do you think the rest of Britain gets that now? As one woman said in the story, tasers aren’t enough.

      Luton first came into my awareness via the fact that it was named in a news story as the nerve center for the distribution of drugs from the Pakistani immigrant enclaves there out to the rest of England. But with the drugs and the sex-trafficking so obvious to the residents, who also knew the immigrants were armed, why was that not enough to bring out the police foot patrols? Was it the same ol’, same ol’ fear of being perceived as racist??

      Obviously, they can have feature stories now on arresting and imprisoning fellows named Kyle and Delaney. What could be safer?

      Back in Chicago, I don’t think white police – armed or not- would patrol in southside for any amount of money. Might as well send them to Afghanistan, where the US death rate is lower.

      • This wasn’t white gang violence – Delaney Brown and Kyle Beckford were/are both black.

        From the BBC article about the Beckford’s trial verdict;
        “Beckford was a member of the Marsh Farm Gang which was in conflict with the Lewsey Farm gang of which Mr Brown was a member.”

        Marsh Farm and Lewsey Farm are the two housing estates referred to in the Daily Mail article linked in mexicano’s post.

  5. Dear Baron I completely understand what you are saying. The establishments capacity for, and efficiency in covering up events of this nature, and in putting up smokescreens to divert attention is not to be underestimated. We, in England now have a celebrity witch hunt which is being used as a smokescreen for the asian paedophile gangs, we also had, coincidentially of course a verdict on a child murderer on the same day as the Oxford paedophile gang. They will go to ANY lengths to stop the natives getting restless until it is too late. Perhaps you could add a note of caution to unconfirmed reports of this nature.
    Thank you for your reply

  6. Given the nature of the media and the authorities in britain (small “b”) today, it wouldn’t surprise me if a story was planted in a way that the EDL guys would pick up on.

    They could then be discredited for believing what they were told. I mean, how could anyone think it’s plausible for Muslim males to sexually abuse a while child, eh? Obviously there’s something wrong with anyone who thinks something like that could ever happen.

    Wait a minute … I’ve just read the Times.

    • I don’t know anything about Luton but i know serious sexual assaults in schools in inner London get covered up. In schools where there’s only a few white kids left the parents or parent of those kids tend to have some kind of problem or other e.g. learning difficulties – which is why they don’t have the ability to move away – so it’s not difficult for the school to bully them into keeping quiet.

      If the Luton story is true then as well as it being more likely to be a school with only a few white kids left if it is muslims then it’s more likely to be from one of the sub-groups who hit puberty earliest.

      http://puberty101.blogspot.co.uk/2011/08/pubertal-development-and-ethnicity.html

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  8. Personally I think the EDL were setup so taht the authorities could divert anger away from the guilty verdict on some of these scum, who actually drugged up and gang raped a 12 year old girl. My bet is that the EDL were set up so they can be accused of causing a breach of the peace and closed down…

  9. Tommy and Kev have been set up by police or security services. The government are behind this, and if riots ensue this summer, they want all right wing leaders in nick!!!

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  11. I was listening to Tommy speak of ths subject not two hours ago. Other people agreed. I wish it were not true . But I feer the worst.

  12. I have asked this question too many times. Where are the men? Where are the fathers of these abused children? My daughter lives in Germany, I live in California. But if my daughter suffered the fate of these children I would be on the warpath, and the law be damned.

    • “Where are the men?”

      Most of these children have been TAKEN FROM their families. The girls were then moved to parts of the country where they had NO social network other than the socialist social workers who (with all the power of the state, the courts, the police and the media) were supposed to PROTECT these children.

      The media ensured over the past 20 years that the national picture of what was going on was not reported. I mentioned this “epidemic” (what one national newspaper now describes it as) to a friend who lives in one of the towns where there have been convictions. She had no idea that the same thing had happened in umpteen other towns (many of the prosecutions have not even started).

      When you understand the media’s complicity in all of this, you understand why Breivik originally wanted to kill journalists.

      Socialism has brought about the destruction of the local communities (Hayek, von Mises, Burnham were all pointing out that the British Conservative Party was socialist by 1960). Socialism then delivered these girls to gangs of rapists. Socialialists then ensured that if the media reported on it, they would be accused of being racists. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/3548890.stm

      I have spoken to people who had family members who were groomed by these gangs. These people said they could not persuade the girls of the danger they were in (the gangs had groomed the girls to accuse their parents of “racism”, thus another narrative of the Left helped support these activities). The people I spoke to told me, they got no help from the police, social services, the media. In the end they had to OSTRACISE these girls from their own family, because the girls were luring in other young girls to drugs and prostitution.

      The end result was that the victims of the muslims were totally isolated.

      • “Most of these children have been TAKEN FROM their families.”

        Maybe most. But not all

        Looks like this “grooming” can affects anyone. Poor, rich, under social care, well brought-up by parents…

        • Agreed, it’s not all. I’ve seen a documentary on these grooming gangs, where the parents were everyone’s idea of a respectable family. That was where I saw them say that the gangs tell the girls “your parents are racists” if the parents try to stop the grooming (and inevitable pimping).

          The whole “racist” narrative needs to be thrown out. There are people in the UK who are now saying “anti-racist is code for anti-white”, and I think they are right.

      • What I am hearing from you and folks like you is FEAR! You fear being a racist for protecting your own against a bunch of savages. I can tell you one thing, if that had happened to any of mine, I would be going to war with these paki savages and nothing would stop me from doing so until the savages were nothing more than a memory.

  13. For most of my life I’ve supported the police, including time at a lefty college in N London in the 1970s when it was considered fashionable and witty to call them “fascist pigs”.

    It saddens me to say it, but my position is no longer tenable. I’m sure many members of the lower ranks are OK but my instinct to support them regardless (more or less) has gone. The respect (in the proper sense of the word) has gone.

    My parents fought to prevent this sort of situation. I was effectively born in a different country, and future generations are not going to enjoy the relative safety and security that is being eroded year after year.

    People need to wake up, and soon.

  14. I know a family whose white daughter was raped in the toilets of a school outside London by a gang of Somali young men. This story was never reported in the media, the school would deny it ever happened. The girl did not want the publicity and shame to accompany her throughout her life. The parents agreed to the girls wishes of not demanding the police and school do something.

    Years later, the parents now regret they did not force their daughter to seek redress. Their daughter is now suffering from depression, suicidal tendencies. The parents say this episode was the turning point in their daughters’ life and it destroyed her.

    So, I have no trouble believing the story retold by Kev Carroll. The British media will give 1000x more attention to the murder of a black man by white men, than they will give to the reporting of a murder of a white man by black men. The entire country knows the name of “Stephen Lawrence”, but not 1% know the names of Kris Donald, Gavin Hopley, Ross Parker – white men murdered by gangs of muslims. In many ways what happened to those white men was far worse than what happend to Stephen Lawrence (in 2 of the cases the muslim gangs went out looking for a white man to kill). Yet still the media have suppressed the information.

    One muslim journalist has commented on this neglect by the media (the original article seems to have disappeared): http://dogwash48.blogspot.co.uk/2006/10/unintended-consequences.html

    As we see from the recent blaming of Nick Griffin for the establishment doing nothing but spend 10 years covering up for the muslim grooming gangs, if EDL does report on this suppressed information, they are accused of “stirring up racial tensions”. When the Left spent 10 years attacking the police and the media over the death of Stephen Lawrence, they were never accused of “stirring up racial tensions”.

    As Orwell said “all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others”.

  15. Again and again I keep circling back to the question: why do contemporary journalists almost all behave like this? Is the “white guilt” that they were taught so deep and pervasive that they hate their own skin color?

    • “why do contemporary journalists almost all behave like this”

      The liberal-left have no principles. If they did, they would still be campaigning about slavery (650,000 black slaves in muslim Mauritania) and apartheid (even “moderate” Malaysia discriminates against non-muslims). Instead, they are silent, and attack those who do want to focus attention on these injustices.

      The Left only adopt causes which can be used to batter their opponents.

      If there is no mileage in a cause (or if it makes other mascots of the Left look bad) the liberal-left will refuse to acknowledge that cause, or even worse, attack those who do bring attention to it.

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