Divorcing Britain from the EU

Nigel Farage, the leader of the United Kingdom Independence Party (UKIP), addressed a large crowd in Worcester Guildhall last night before the stunning results of yesterday’s local elections had been tabulated. Mr. Farage discussed the European Union, British sovereignty, runaway immigration, the financial crisis, and other important issues:

Today’s news reports indicate that UKIP now has the support of 23% of British voters, just behind the “Conservative” Party and ahead of the Lib-Dems.

The Daily Mail has a lengthy news article on last night’s election results. Below are some excerpts:

David Cameron today said the Tories must ‘respect’ voters who deserted them to hand the UK Independence Party a record 147 council seats.

As UKIP leader Nigel Farage enjoyed a lunchtime pint to toast big gains, the Prime Minister effectively withdrew his claim that they were a bunch of ‘fruitcakes and racists’ and was contrite about the need to understand why the anti-EU party had done so well.

Defeated Tories tore into Mr Cameron’s ‘out of touch’ government for the losses, with Education Secretary Michael Gove taking to the airwaves to warn a challenge to the Prime Minister’s leadership was ‘bonkerooney’.

UKIP gains in dozens of councils cost the Tories seats, and control of at least two authorities.

With all 34 council election results declared in England, UKIP has won a total of 147 council seats, an increase of 139.

The Tories lost 335, but were still left with 1,116.

However Labour failed to make the 400 seen as the minimum gain needed to show Ed Miliband is on course to take power in 2015.

Labour gained just 291 seats, taking them to 538. Lib Dems were down 123 to 353.

Amid growing concern in Tory ranks about the direction of the party, Mr Cameron said: ‘We need to show respect for people who have taken the choice to support this party and we are going to work really hard to win them back.’

It was a markedly different tone to his remarks in 2006 when he branded UKIP a ‘bunch of fruitcakes and loonies and closet racists’.

The Prime Minister added: ‘It is no good insulting a political party that people have chosen to vote for.’

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UKIP claimed second place behind Labour in the South Shields parliamentary by-election, which saw the Tories pushed into third and the Lib Dems slumping to a humiliating seventh.

Mr Farage boasted that if a by-election came up in a marginal seat, ‘we have every chance of winning it’.

Hat tips: Steen (video), Henrik Ræder Clausen (article).

22 thoughts on “Divorcing Britain from the EU

  1. Would that we had politicians akin to this one, people willing to say out loud “get us out of the UN” (EU is a mini-me of the corrupt UN) or those who would name names on the great gyp, “renewable energy” – like those windmills.

    I don’t understand the ins/outs of British politics but I do trust my own visceral repugnance against the drive to shame us out of a supposedly racist 19th century evil of the sovereign nation-state. So if Britain was conned into shoveling 35 million whatevers (Euros or pounds) into the rapacious, insatiable maw of the EU in Brussels, then anyone who will try to stop that pillage would have my vote. If I were British.

    And anyone who stands up against the p.c. idiocy of “renewable” energy in its current form deserves a hearing from the voters. I don’t think we have any professional pols here willing to do that. Windmills are a crock, but then so is ethanol. Today someone revealed that during the joke period known as the Sequester, the Dept of Defense is paying 59.00/gal for virtuous, carbon-consuming-and-spewing ‘renewable’ fuel.

    Two years ago, we paid ~4.oo/day for our electric consumption. It is now up to ~8.00/ day and not all of Obama’s idiot rules designed to bankrupt us in the name of a mythical good have yet kicked in so those fees are sure to go higher, especially things like “utility taxes”. That doubling has not seemed to be affected by measures like turning the hot water temp way down, or relacing our electric range with gas, or turning our thermostat waaaay down to avoid having the pump turn on. I used to enjoy lamps on in the house at night but now it’s one lamp at a time. Yet every month the cost rises inexorably.

    I hate politicians. Especially despicable are those who pretend allegiance to a “greater good”, an allegiance so virtuous that it harms the average person while lining the pockets of those espousing this purported good.

    Feudalism is returning at a fast clip, and for all of us. That excludes those with their hand in the till, of course. Maybe it’s just a regression to that mean the Baron is always telling me about.

      • (circa $90m) – exchange rate today about $1.55 to the £1. Eye watering isn’t it -per DAY!

    • I sometimes wonder if the increase in prices for energy across the Western world are designed to impoverish the average Joe and make us more reliant on government handouts.

      In Australia, the cost of electricity has skyrocketed to become a major component of a household’s budget, pushing many into financial stress.

      • yikes, notadhimmie! You’ve been reading our mail. After jacking up our monthly budget payment by ~5%, our elec co op sent us our “Spring Settle-Up” letter letting us know whether we were getting a refund or if our next season’s budget payment would have to be raised. Many years, we’ve gotten a refund (if the amount is less than 25.00 they just apply it to one’s on-going account).

        Well, I knew the rates would be up, that’s why I raised our monthly fee. But the shortfall, even after that rise is a $400.00 “extra” season’s end payment!

        I know part of the problem is the lovely 5 year contract they had with one supplier which they signed on to and locked in artificially low costs. That supplier must’ve taken a beating, but that party is definitely over.

        Now our small co-op is on the open market, having to jostle with the Bigs to negotiate for energy supplies in a very volatile market. And there is also Obama’s plan to “bankrupt us” (his words) if the utilities insist on using fossil fuels instead of his beloved “renewables” or – gag me – green algae…iow, the average consumer will be put on the rack in the name of BHO’s homicidal green principles. (And yes, the White House stays at 74 degrees in January).

        I looked at our daily costs range between last year and this one: it’s more than double, though our usage isn’t up. I’m already trying to figure out if getting a refrigerator that purportedly saves energy would be worth the outlay. IOW, how long would it take to see the savings…

  2. OT, except as it affects whatever lies politicians tell about the virtues of green energy. I happened upon this essay a few weeks ago and have been thinking about it since:

    The hidden fuel costs of wind generated electricity

    The study is an eye-opener. Though they don’t say so, it is obvious that “wind power” is royalty and every other form must therefore come second, no matter the cost or lack of efficiency.

    Final sentence:

    “This study concludes that from an economic point of view the use of wind and solar energy production is an enormous waste of resources.”

    They fail to mention the obvious: it’s not about economics or efficiency it’s about the dogma of Green Religion.

    • I alluded to this over at Neo Neocon…

      The common man does NOT understand that wind power does not scale up neatly.

      Unlike a power dam, wind is highly variable even during intervals as short as a second.

      This can be worked around with small systems — where the installer/ owner is prepared to accept the limitations.

      This trait causes national systems to become so unstable that they ‘trip out.’ Really big systems are engineered for extremely stable voltages and frequencies. They can’t tolerate variations.

      (Such dynamos are ‘phase-locked’ onto the master frequency. Variation causes their control circuits to over-load — melting down like the final scenes in a Bond Movie. The smoke does get ‘let out.’)

      These machines are at the heart of the power grid — and the public knows of them only by pictures — and dumbed down rhetoric.

      Solar arrays are not as bad… yet they still have cloud issues… and are ruinously risky when mounted on home rooftops.

      Workmen are certain to fall. Roofs are certain to be damaged — leading to horrific water damage claims.

      It’s a dumb idea all the way around.

  3. The thing is we fought world wars in order to give people self-determination and national rule.

    Funny how our current crop of politicians have forgotten all that, eh ..

  4. If UK Independence has support from 23% of British voters, why does it only have 147 seats compared with Tory’s 1100, Labour’s 538 and Lib Dems 353? If you add up all just these seats, it seems that UK Independence only controls less than 7% of the seats.

    • The British use a “first past the post” / winner takes all scheme.

      The result is that new parties like the UKIP can get all the way to 8% of the national vote without sending ANYONE to London.

      To do that, a party needs to have concentrated voting so that — for that seat — they are the plurality winner.

      When a political tsunami is underway, the sentiment builds up a head of steam. THEN, after ten years, suddenly the new guys finally reach the ‘pole position’ and explode out of nowhere into either a serious opposition party — if not the sitting government, itself.

      Canada uses the same scheme. Witness the rise and fall of entire parties in less than a single generation.

      America used to have a many party system right through to 1860. That was a four-way race. Lincoln prevailed solely because of northern votes. The South went solid Democrat — the Party of Slavery. America after the Civil War has only had token, protest, third parties since that epoch.

      The Republican National Party signed a lethal consent decree in 1982 that makes it illegal for it to vet any voting irregularities until the Democrat Party give it permission. Said permission will never come.

      This decree while still in force, is almost entirely unknown to Republican rank and file voters. Once they become aware — and past stomach upset — they all bail on the official party. It’s a lost cause — brutally neutered at the polls.

      This is why the unchecked voter fraud operations by Buraq goes entirely unchallenged. The typical voter assumes ( ass umes ) that blatant fraud by the Democrats would be countered by Republican attorneys with lawsuits. However, the Consent Decree makes even the filing of such lawsuits flatly illegal (violation of the court order) and, thus, tossed out. So, they aren’t even filed in the first place. The in-the-know Republicans don’t say ANYTHING because it would mean that the money flow would dry up — and that their status as insiders would evaporate.

      Such players are normally termed: co-dependents.

      Google: New Jersey, Republican Party, Consent Decree, 1982…

      Have liquor ready to hand….

    • Rather more than 23% of the British support the main aims of UKIP – essentially:-
      – out of the EU except for trade;
      – out of the European Convention on Human Rights. – we Brits actually WROTE the 1948 Convention. It has been much corrupted in the meantime, the “bench” includes many non-lawyers; it currently prevents the deportation of Abu Qatada and many others on spurious grounds.
      -Return of the grammar schools once admired by the US
      – More defence spending
      – massive reduction and reversal of immigration.
      – Et al
      In short TRADITIONAL Conservative values.
      Problem is that voters have previously been too scared to switch allegiance for fear of letting in the socialists by default.

      Most of the Thursday elections were for local government only. I have only so far read one political pundit who has had the wit to connect the dots. That is that the spectactular performance of UKIP, even in the parliamentary by-election, will encourage many more than 23% to take the risk next time.

      As a starter Cameron has little choice but to adopt UKIP policies including holding the referendum THIS year. If he doesn’t then he will be toast in 2015. Straw polls tell me that 80% want OUT of the EU

      • Bewick. I don’t think that it was all to do with letting Labour in. To
        vote for any party which wanted to stop immigration into this country lead people to be accused of racism, even though it is meant to be a secret ballot, something I have my doubts about. Witness the shudder which ran through the land when two bnp euro mps were elected. Would anybody who voted for them dare admit it, I doubt it. The British are terrified of being accused of racism as the consequences are now so dire, not only in terms of one’s job but of wholesale ostracisation – witness Tommy Robinson, or even David Starkey who spoke of reverse assimilation and the London riots. That fear grips all of us in the stomach and we have to be very careful of what we say and to whom – Marxist 1984 is well and truly here. This is quite a new thing. In centuries past it would have been perfectly normal to stand up against invasion and colonisation which is what has occurred, albeit state sponsored. You cannot blame the immigrants and their arrogance. Colonisers never tend to have any sympathy with the natives.

        Notice how Farage speaks of our successful race relations policy and the managed immigration of the past. It was not managed, vast areas have now been lost to the native ethnic English. A steady drip as occurred between 1066 and 1948 and we would still have retained our historic national identity, not have become this wonderful successful vibrant diverse multicultural wonderland as depicted in the fraudulent rewriting of history in the Marxist Olympic Games opening ceremony. As for successful race relations, this was because legislation was so draconian that people were scared witless of not going along with this unprecidented experiment in social engineering which ultimately will spell the disappearance of England and the English. Jack Straw has said that England and the English are not worth saving so it has been decided and we must accept it. We do not know what Farage really thinks, he has many Asians in his party. I know that there are those in his party who, like you, would like to reverse mass immigration. Most, like most in this country who are old enough not to have been subjected to massive Marxist brainwashing, agreed and still agree with Enoch Powell – who probably was aware of the New World Order plan for Britain. Had he not be thwarted by the globalist lackey Edward Heath then just imagine what Britain would look like today. It would be been peaceful, happy, cohesive and homogeneous, just as it had been in the 1950s and for hundred of years before. UKIP will never reverse mass immigration. Who will ever dare vote for it. The reason that the BNP has failed to make headway is because people may agree with them but feel guilty, frightened and ashamed at even thinking that way. The British are always worried about what the neighbours might think.
        Sweden, Holland, Belgium, Norway, possibly Denmark and France are all going down the pan. The only question is, now that the English as they always do have finally turned once their backs are firmly against the wall, whether it gather momentum and open up the whole taboo subjected of rejection of a multi-cultural multi-ethnic state, as Denmark intends doing. Or will the immigrants themselves begin to sense that the writing is on the wall, Pandora’s box has at last been opened and that the best thing is to silently slip away before Enoch’s predicted Tiber really does foam with much blood. For those of us who love England, the English, our hundreds of years of history and our culture, the most we can still do is to sit with our heads in our hands and go back into the past for our solace. The future is too awful to contemplate.

        • We have a choice, we learn to take the ‘racist’ taunts on the nose, we resort to leftist tactics of hate, or we surrender and take what comes.

          Socialists should take a look in the mirror, but being narcissistic they cannot actually see the arrogance looking back at them.

          Socialism is candy coated poison, most socialists only seeing the candy coating, they are too ignorant to see the poison centre (or else they see it as an expression of their hatred and contempt for humanity like the Georgia guidestones).

          If we are to turn this around, we must be able to laugh at their insults and keep hitting them with the truth, Nazis were socialists just like them, that they are bollinger bolshviks exploiting the working classes rather than supporting them. That socialism costs millions upon millions of lives every time it gets a grip on power.

          Most socialist I know run a mile when they meet a real working class person, the Labour party is full of privately schooled, private incomed ‘toffs’.

          • I, grammar school and Oxford educated, had a tutor at university who professed himself a Marxist. Like most grammar school boys, my working class roots were only a couple of generations away. He was educated at public school, Oxford and I don’t think he had ever met a member of the working classes whose destiny he wanted to shape along Marxist principles. As you say, New Labour are all the same. The only hope is that working class Len McCluskey of the Unite union wants to break the Blairite stranglehold of his party.

            As for Blair, the first thing that he did when elected was to get rid of assisted places which enabled those of limited means to get their children into public schools on merit. This was Blair who was public school and Oxford educated and used the working classes to make himself a multi-millionaire. A vile man, well excuse for a man.

            The 1944 eduction action was introduced by the Conservatives and aimed to match the school to a child’s abillity. After the War the British took it to post-War Germany where, as far as I am aware, it still exists. It has hardly failed German children in the way that the comprehensives introduced by American educated Labour minister Shirley Williams have failed ours. Assisted places allowed those without money to mix with those with which undoubtedly help those with to know how the other half live. Their abolition means that these people have no idea how people without money are or live. UKIP want to bring back grammar schools. Perhaps this will mean that our children will again be as well educated as those who went to school, like me, in the 1950s and 1960s.

  5. following your OT dymphna these PC 200 feet long wing tips are traveling at aspeed of 150 mph . shreading hawk, eagle, falcon, and others. PC kills everything eventually.

    • Including us as well, ‘spike on’.

      These damned windmills are buggering up our low level defensive radar systems and thus an enemy aircraft attacking at tree top height above either the ground or the sea would be upon us and launching before it could be detected. And that is not me speaking, I am merely paraphrasing a recent Ministry of Defence report to the government which leaked into the public domain.

      Sleep well!

      Seneca III

      • Seneca – or anyone – have you seen any reports of health problems for those people who have to live near these things? So far, I’ve only seen the reports from the fringes – i.e., those dismissed as the tinfoil-hat ppl.

        [OT to make a point: These pesky people asking questions about the wind farms are the ideological ‘descendants’ of the folks who tried to warn us for years about the problems with fluoride in the water, and were ridiculed/marginalized by bureaucrats. Now, studies abound demonstrating fluorine’s ability to lock into receptors on the thyroid, the receptors meant to pick up iodine. Turns out bromine (as in brominated flour) and chlorine (as in antiseptic wipes or the dilute chlorine washes used on meats) also tie up those same receptors…they have all been implicated in an increase in osteoporosis also].

        US air pollution levels are dropping, but the noise pollution is increasing.

  6. Sorry, where was the teleprompter?! No ers, umm or ahs. Very refreshing, sounds like he believes in something so can say it off the bat. UKIP offer a chance for real change, the start of the beginning of the end of the madness of the last couple of decades. At last.

    • Oh my gosh, you’re right! He spoke unassisted, no plastic panels with his pre-digested thoughts. No robot rhetoric…I knew there was something suspicious about the guy.

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