Gotta love The Swamp. Now that North Korea (probably) has the capability to fire a missile into our airspace, TPTB have shut down the one governmental organization with the ability to do anything testicular to deter the Fat Boy driving the looming disaster.
Did you think NoKo is going to do something fissionable with its missiles and is going to simply try to “bomb” us? Well, it would seem that’s the intention, but the real problem is the payload on their missiles. All they need is one EMP detonated in our skies (over the East Coast, where lies most of our outdated electrical infrastructure) to send the continent back to say, 1850…and that will mean ninety percent of our population gone within six months or less. One can envision the follow-up: a leisurely walk-through by China. It would be easy-peasy to sort through the pieces of what remained of Canada and the United States.
From The Center for Security Policy [with my emphases — D]:
Inexplicably, just when we need the country’s most knowledgeable and influential minds advising about how to protect against a potentially imminent, nation-ending peril, the Congressional Electromagnetic Pulse Threat Commission is being shut down.
For seventeen years under the leadership of President Reagan’s Science Advisor, Dr. William Graham, this blue-ribbon panel has warned that we had to protect our electric grid from just the sorts of EMP attacks North Korea is now threatening to unleash upon us. Successive administrations and the electric utilities have shamefully failed to heed those warnings and take corrective action.
Consequently, we could experience on a national scale the sort of devastating, protracted blackouts now afflicting Puerto Rico. President Trump should give Dr. Graham and his team a new mandate as a presidential commission to oversee the immediate implementation of their recommendations.
This disaster happened at the end of September, while the MSM dithered away on their fiddles about the eeevil Trump. Meanwhile, two men who served on the panel appeared in front of this subcommittee to get the views of the panel into the permanent record, i.e. the Congressional Record. If/when it all goes down, their warnings will still exist, if anyone can access them after an EMP explosion:
DR. WILLIAM R. GRAHAM, CHAIRMAN
DR. PETER VINCENT PRY, CHIEF OF STAFF
COMMISSION TO ASSESS THE THREAT TO THE UNITED STATES FROM
ELECTROMAGNETIC PULSE (EMP) ATTACK
U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON HOMELAND SECURITY
SUBCOMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND MANAGEMENT EFFICIENCY HEARING
“EMPTY THREAT OR SERIOUS DANGER:
ASSESSING NORTH KOREA’S RISK TO THE HOMELAND”
Here is an excerpt from that “Statement For the Record” [any emphases are mine — D. The footnotes, which have been omitted here, can be found in the pdf linked at the end of this post]:
During the Cold War, major efforts were undertaken by the Department of Defense to assure that the U.S. national command authority and U.S. strategic forces could survive and operate after an EMP attack. However, no major efforts were then thought necessary to protect critical national infrastructures, relying on nuclear deterrence to protect them. With the development of small nuclear arsenals and long-range missiles by new, radical U.S. adversaries, beginning with North Korea, the threat of a nuclear EMP attack against the U.S. becomes one of the few ways that such a country could inflict devastating damage to the United States. It is critical, therefore, that the U.S. national leadership address the EMP threat as a critical and existential issue, and give a high priority to assuring the leadership is engaged and the necessary steps are taken to protect the country from EMP.
By way of background, the Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) Attack was established by Congress in 2001 to advise the Congress, the President, Department of Defense and other departments and agencies of the U.S. Government on the nuclear EMP threat to military systems and civilian critical infrastructures.The EMP Commission was re-established in 2015 with its charter broadened to include natural EMP from solar storms, all manmade EMP threats, cyber-attack, sabotage and Combined-Arms Cyber Warfare. The EMP Commission charter gives it access to all relevant classified and unclassified data and the power to levy analysis upon the Department of Defense.
On September 30, 2017, the Department of Defense, after withholding a significant part of the monies allocated by Congress to support the work of the EMP Commission for the entirety of 2016, terminated funding the EMP Commission. In the same month, North Korea detonated an H-Bomb that it plausibly describes as capable of “super-powerful EMP” attack and released a technical report “The EMP Might of Nuclear Weapons” accurately describing what Russia and China call a “Super-EMP” weapon.
Neither the Department of Defense nor the Department of Homeland Security has asked Congress to continue the EMP Commission. The House version of the National Defense Authorization Act includes a provision that would replace the existing EMP Commission with new Commissioners. Yet the existing EMP Commission comprises the nation’s foremost experts who have been officially or unofficially continuously engaged trying to advance national EMP preparedness for 17 years.
And today, as the EMP Commission has long warned, the nation faces a potentially imminent and existential threat of nuclear EMP attack from North Korea. Recent events have proven the EMP Commission’s critics wrong about other highly important aspects of the nuclear missile threat from North Korea:
- Just six months ago, most experts thought North Korea’s nuclear arsenal was primitive, some academics claiming it had as few as [six] A-Bombs. Now the intelligence community reportedly estimates North Korea has [sixty] nuclear weapons.
- Just six months ago, most experts thought North Korea’s ICBMs were fake, or if real could not strike the U.S. mainland. Now the intelligence community reportedly estimates North Korea’s ICBMs can strike Denver and Chicago, and perhaps the entire United States.
- Just six months ago, most experts thought North Korea was many years away from an H-Bomb. Now it appears North Korea has H-Bombs comparable to sophisticated U.S. two-stage thermonuclear weapons.
- Just six months ago, most experts claimed North Korean ICBMs could not miniaturize an A-Bomb or design a reentry vehicle for missile delivery. Now the intelligence community reportedly assesses North Korea has miniaturized nuclear weapons and has developed reentry vehicles for missile delivery, including by ICBMs that can strike the U.S.
After massive intelligence failures grossly underestimating North Korea’s long-range missile capabilities, [its] number of nuclear weapons, warhead miniaturization, and proximity to an H-Bomb, the biggest North Korean threat to the U.S. remains unacknowledged — a nuclear EMP attack.
North Korea confirmed the EMP Commission’s assessment by testing an H-Bomb that could make a devastating EMP attack, and in its official public statement: “The H-Bomb, the explosive power of which is adjustable from tens of kilotons to hundreds of kilotons, is a multi-functional thermonuclear weapon with great destructive power which can be detonated even at high altitudes for super-powerful EMP attack according to strategic goals.”
As noted earlier, Pyongyang also released a technical report accurately describing a “Super-EMP” weapon.
Just six months ago, some academics dismissed EMP Commission warnings and even, literally, laughed on National Public Radio at the idea North Korea could make an EMP attack.
Primitive and “Super-EMP” Nuclear Weapons are Both EMP Threats
The EMP Commission finds that even primitive, low-yield nuclear weapons are such a significant EMP threat that rogue states, like North Korea, or terrorists may well prefer using a nuclear weapon for EMP attack, instead of destroying a city: “Therefore, terrorists or state actors that possess relatively unsophisticated missiles armed with nuclear weapons may well calculate that, instead of destroying a city or military base, they may obtain the greatest political-military utility from one or a few such weapons by using them — or threatening their use — in an EMP attack.”
The EMP Commission 2004 Report warns: “Certain types of relatively low-yield nuclear weapons can be employed to generate potentially catastrophic EMP effects over wide geographic areas, and designs for variants of such weapons may have been illicitly trafficked for a quarter-century.”
In 2004, two Russian generals, both EMP experts, warned the EMP Commission that the design for Russia’s Super-EMP warhead, capable of generating high-intensity EMP fields over 100,000 volts per meter, was “accidentally” transferred to North Korea. They also said that due to “brain drain,” Russian scientists were in North Korea, as were Chinese and Pakistani scientists according to the Russians, helping with the North’s missile and nuclear weapon programs. In 2009, South Korean military intelligence told their press that Russian scientists are in North Korea helping develop an EMP nuclear weapon. In 2013, a Chinese military commentator stated North Korea has Super-EMP nuclear weapons.
Super-EMP weapons are low-yield and designed to produce not a big kinetic explosion, but rather a high level of gamma rays, which generates the high-frequency E1 EMP that is most damaging to the broadest range of electronics. North Korean nuclear tests, including the first in 2006, whose occurrence was predicted to the EMP Commission two years in advance by the two Russian EMP experts, mostly have yields consistent with the size of a Super-EMP weapon. The Russian generals’ accurate prediction about when North Korea would perform its first nuclear test, and of a yield consistent with a Super-EMP weapon, indicates their warning about a North Korean Super-EMP weapon should be taken very seriously.
EMP Threat From Satellites
While most analysts are fixated on when in the future North Korea will develop highly reliable intercontinental missiles, guidance systems, and reentry vehicles capable of striking a U.S. city, the threat here and now from EMP is largely ignored. EMP attack does not require an accurate guidance system because the area of effect, having a radius of hundreds or thousands of kilometers, is so large. No reentry vehicle is needed because the warhead is detonated at high-altitude, above the atmosphere. Missile reliability matters little because only one missile has to work to make an EMP attack against an entire nation.
North Korea could make an EMP attack against the United States by launching a short-range missile off a freighter or submarine or by lofting a warhead to 30 kilometers burst height by balloon. While such lower-altitude EMP attacks would not cover the whole U.S. mainland, as would an attack at higher-altitude (300 kilometers), even a balloon-lofted warhead detonated at 30 kilometers altitude could blackout the Eastern Electric Power Grid that supports most of the population and generates 75 percent of U.S. electricity.
Or an EMP attack might be made by a North Korean satellite, right now.
A Super-EMP weapon could be relatively small and lightweight and could fit inside North Korea’s Kwangmyongsong-3 (KMS-3) and Kwangmyongsong-4 (KMS-4) satellites. These two satellites presently orbit over the United States, and over every other nation on Earth–demonstrating, or posing, a potential EMP threat against the entire world.
North Korea’s KMS-3 and KMS-4 satellites were launched to the south on polar trajectories and passed over the United States on their first orbit. Pyongyang launched KMS-4 on February 7, 2017, shortly after its fourth illegal nuclear test on January 6, that began the present protracted nuclear crisis with North Korea.
The south polar trajectory of KMS-3 and KMS-4 evades U.S. Ballistic Missile Early Warning Radars and National Missile Defenses, resembling a Russian secret weapon developed during the Cold War, called the Fractional Orbital Bombardment System (FOBS) that would have used a nuclear-armed satellite to make a surprise EMP attack on the United States.
Ambassador Henry Cooper, former Director of the U.S. Strategic Defense Initiative and a preeminent expert on missile defenses and space weapons, has written numerous articles warning about the potential North Korean EMP threat from their satellites. For example, on September 20, 2016, Ambassador Cooper wrote:
U.S. ballistic missile defense (BMD) interceptors are designed to intercept a few North Korean ICBMs that approach the United States over the North Polar region. But current U.S. BMD systems are not arranged to defend against even a single ICBM that approaches the United States from over the South Polar region, which is the direction toward which North Korea launches its satellites…This is not a new idea. The Soviets pioneered and tested just such a specific capability decades ago — we call it a Fractional Orbital Bombardment System (FOBS)…So, North Korea doesn’t need an ICBM to create this existential threat. It could use its demonstrated satellite launcher to carry a nuclear weapon over the South Polar region and detonate it…over the United States to create a high-altitude electromagnetic pulse (HEMP)…The result could be to shut down the U.S. electric power grid for an indefinite period, leading to the death within a year of up to 90 percent of all Americans — as the EMP Commission testified over eight years ago.
This is the link to the whole report, fourteen pages long, which was read into the Congressional Record. Takes about twenty minutes to skim.
Here’s the website for The Oversight and Management Efficiency Subcommittee. Scroll down the list of members to see if your Congressman is on that committee. Better yet, write your own Congressman and tell him to get going on this critical issue. He doesn’t have to be a member of that subcommittee to nudge it forward. While you’re at it, send a tweet to Trump.
That commission was extant and active for seventeen years. Yet for some strange reason, it’s been disbanded now that we have two irrational actors on the world stage capable of bringing us to a neck-breaking halt.
At least Maine seems to be aware and active about the problem. Whether it’s past the initial stages of deciding what to do is hard to say, but its preliminary actions show the way forward for other states. States don’t have to wait for the Federal behemoth to move toward safety. They could even act regionally in a co-operative. This is especially important for our vulnerable northeastern corridor.
Here’s where you can find the contact information for your Congressional representative. It would be a good idea to lean on your state representatives, too. Send their assistants the pdf.
This time we can’t say we didn’t see it coming.
This proves how dumb we have become. I hope somebody wakes up soon.
Actually I am referring to our Congress critters of course, not to mention the Senate. What are they waiting for?
They just finishing up in their private luxury bunker somewhere in New Zealand. Once it’s done the EMP threat no longer relevant… Oh… You meant for you and me? That’s was NEVER considered!
As usual, the politicians do not listen to what knowledgeable people (I refrain from using the term “experts” as there are other laughable connotations thereof) say, or do as their jobs.
The threat seems to be all too real. What I disagree with is the expectation of “90% destruction of the population in the US” – I think we are more resilient than that.
Anyway – isn’t it a good time to buy a decent backup generator and stack up on gasoline?
I would bet that most generators being sold these days have electronic components that will be disabled by an EMP and prevent them from functioning. The same would go for almost all motor vehicles (maybe some varieties of moped would run) and large machinery.
Some of the farmers around here still have John Deere tractors built in the 1950s or ’60s. They’d be smart to hang on to them.
Faraday cages will work to protect electronics against EMPs, so a spare set of all electronic devices that control motor vehicles, generators would probably get the owner back in business, if he/she knows what to do.
Yes, though expect widespread social mayhem, looting, and supply chain breakdown.
It would actually be more destructive over the course of a year than several nukes actually hitting large population centres.
A big “if”.
Imagine all the gas stations that wouldn’t operate. Back-up generators (those with NO electronics) would be outta fuel in a week or so.
We can lick this problem if we have the concerted will to do so. A little healthy compettion/cooperation among and between individual states would help.
When we switched to a gas cooker/range it was difficult to find one that didn’t have electronic gadgets to ignite the flame…no help at all when the problem we were addressing was power outages. Finally found one, described as being meant for summer cottages.
Around here we get glimpses of the World After an EMP. Our well’s water is pumped up by an electric pump. When we know ahead, we fill the bathtub with water and leave enough containers of drinking water to last through the tree-fallen-on-a-wire-somewhere-up-on-the-mountain.
In the winter, we have a small propane stove and the cooker for heat; candles for light. In the summer, if it’s very hot we head for an area whose electricity hasn’t been affected.
I wanted to re-start the old hand-dug well, complete with a hand pump but the Baron observed that should we really need to access water that way, it would be the least of our problems. And he’s right.
There are worse things than dying.
You should be able to light your cook top with matches? I have a gas cook top and when the power fails, as up here it is a regular occurrence, I revert to turning on the gas – and it should flow even without power – then put a match to it.
There’s a pilot light. No need for matches unless I inadvertently make the pilot light go out while cleaning or somesuch. Yes, our power outages are not unusual, either.
I believe some – perhaps many – gas stoves have solenoids which will prevent the flow of gas to the burners and oven if there is no electricity to operate the solenoid. Have you checked your stovetop to see if it will work with the grid down?
Years ago, having learned this was true of the stove I owned, I searched for quite a while before I discovered that only the cheapest of stoves (one of which I found at Sears) would allow the oven to work without electricity being available to operate the solenoid to permit gas to flow to the oven burners. This stove had an oven pilot light – as most did way back when – and no solenoid.
Also, for the fellow who spoke of having a supply of gasoline for his generator a) even treated gasoline will go stale and be unusable after two or three years, and b) how many gallons are you prepared to store? Check the specs on your generator, and find out how many hours it can run on a gallon. If it is a large generator (10 kilowatts or bigger) it becomes a matter of how many gallons it uses per hour. Bottom line – even several hundred gallons won’t last long if you are trying to power even just a refrigerator, a well pump and pressure tank system, and lights.
There’s a company called Sol-Ark (www.PortableSolarLLC.com), that sells grid-hardened back-up systems and components. When installed, it makes your home also grid-hardened against EMP. Fantastic customer service and products. Highly recommend. This is what I did to ensure our well being; and it has reduced the utility bill nicely in the meantime.
Military HUMVees are reportedly EMP proof. It might be worthwhile to purchase a surplus model.
A backup engine control module for your car would be much less. HMMV is such a pain to use when parallel parking is required in traffic and you aren’t in an armed convoy.
Mercedes from 1950-1980’s with OM6– engines. Vacuum logic! Batteries won’t be drained by EMP, and diodes in alternator probably won’t be damaged. Car radio might not work if it was on when the pulse hit. Modern Diesel cars (VW TDI is packed with electronics, as are Audi/Mercedes, Ford-GM-Dodge Diesel PU’s, and big trucks since 2008). It’s impossible to make a Diesel-burner clean enough without a mess of electronics-sensors-electric injectors, so clean & dead following EMP (clear skies! Clean air! No food!).
Fix: Modern Diesel engines are vulnerable to EMP.
Which is better:
Nuking them right now and listening to a century of whining,
or,
Waiting, then nuking them just before 100,000,000 of us starve to death?
Do I have this right?
Do we have the Two-for-one option? Can we knock out both North Korea AND Iran in the same whirlwind day?
What would Michael Corleone do? Who is performing the consigliere function upon the Republic’s behalf?
The United States risks Chinese retaliation if a first strike goes ahead on North Korea. China has repeatedly warned the U.S. that it will retaliate if North Korea is attacked first. Why would they do this? Maybe China is patiently waiting out North Korea’s ‘developments’ in anticipation of an easy victory against the United States?
With the current expansionist Chinese agenda around the world, I would never trust China while under Communist rule.
The United States best option is to take out the Zika Kid alias Rocket Man, and his closest confidants, while leaving North Korea and most of the country intact for the Chinese to deal with. Nothing like millions of starving North Koreans flooding into China to cause the Chinese oligarchy some introspection about a real BIG problem!
The Chinese must be hoping that King Fatty the Third does something stupid, which:
IF SUCCESSFUL: they take advantage of;
IF NOT SUCCESSFUL: they hypocritically condemn and proceed to invade NK shortly thereafter.
Either way, it’s a win for them.
A decapitation strike seems to me to be the best way to do it. I’d consider a thermobaric bomb dropped on the Arirang, next time he’s in attendance. It’s public enough that it should be possible to make bloody sure that he’s there.
Whomever takes over next will know what the limits are…
Screwing up the Iranians on the same day is an interesting option, as well.
The mad Mullahs, in my humble opinion, are hanging on to power by their fingernails – if Obama’s Globalist treaty hits the waste paper basket in Trump’s office, then the mad Mullahs have everything to fear from the Persian people themselves who have been biding their time for another crack at over throwing the Iranian regime.
Regime change always looks better when it is the grass roots doing the changes.
So far, the Persian people since 1979 have lost 2-nil against the Tyrants, the next time the Tyrants may not be so lucky.
You are not going to like this but there are prophecies in the Bible that say the Persian Empire will rise again and God will be willing and/or able to defeat them. They are the real threat.
Well, if that ever occurs, I don’t think it will be with the mad Mullahs in charge.
I look at prophecies as being a possible outcome if certain roads are not followed and not THE only outcome.
You certainly won’t be asked by Tillerson to assist him in “continuing to talk until the first bomb falls” – which is what he said the other day.
But I like your approach more…much more.
Thanks! Seems Tillerson has more Globalist ambition than a down to earth grip on reality. I just hope Trump is taking note.
If the US economy goes from 18 trillion Dollars a year to zero in a matter of seconds, that’ll remove one fifth of China’s economy and bring down the entire system. Total global deaths as a result of knock-on effects, I’d say in excess of a billion.
Michael, don’t you think China might be willing to lose half a billion mouths to feed? From what I understand, they are having a hard time producing enough food to feed all their people right now.
I’m concerned that they might launch an EMP strike disguised as a NK attack, if lil Kim isn’t crazy enough to do it on his own. If I were Trump, I’d plan on using hardened missiles to take out China and Iran if the US gets hit with an EMP weapon no matter where it originates. That would be the only way US survivors might stand a chance against an invasion by China. I don’t know if Russia would move on us, but they might.
Brad Thor wrote a novel where it was determined that NK was training its people to farm and live 1800’s style, prior to a biological attack on the US.
I worry that Iran might launch an EMP attack on Israel instead of bombing their cities. Easier for them to take over the agricultural and other assets in Israel, in that case.
O.K! After reading that bit of news, I immediately went to 1 Corinthians 15:1–4 for the good news because if anyone thinks the U.S dot gov is going to fix the EMP problem after seventeen years of constant warning from a panel of experts and decades of warnings from other sources prior to…Well, when you are freezing to death in the dark, you’ll want to remember we are living in the age of God’s grace and he has set the bar very low. Get yourself over the bar ASAP. That is all.
Our enemies love it when we argue about transgender bathrooms and what millionaire football player is kneeling this week. We are creating the smokescreen needed for something really really terrible to surprise us.
What if all of this is planned and scripted to put us out of their misery. It certainly smells like that.
PS, what would and EMP do to a solar panel array and what is a Faraday cage?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage
Conventional solar systems most likely won’t survive EMP. There is a grid-hardened system available. That is what I installed. Check http://www.PortableSolarLLC.com. Great customer service and products. If you have panels already, you could get the remaining necessary other components from them to harden your home. Well worth the peace of mind; and reduced utility costs in the meantime.
They just finishing up in their private luxury bunker somewhere in New Zealand. Once it’s done the EMP threat no longer relevant… Oh… You meant for you and me? That’s was NEVER considered!
It is strange to read this comment thread and realize that almost all commenters subscribe to the MSM narrative against DPRK and Iran.
I wouldn’t lose any sleep over North Korea if the US just withdrew from the South (which is all the Norks want) and we just armed the south appropriately (nukes). We have no business there. The only ones who would profit from yet another conflict are the MIC.
Same for Iran. Iran is NOT a state sponsor of terrorism. They are actually fighting US-created Isis in Syria and otherwise keep pretty much to themselves. Leaving them alone would take away their government’s argument that they defend Iran against the Great Satan – the only way they can manipulate the Persian people into supporting the mullahs. An uprising against the muslim clerics in Tehran will probably ensue when they cannot brandish the threat of the US anymore.
Think about how Iran is made the enemy here in the US MSM, while the REAL terrorists, our “good friends” in Saudi Arabia get nothing but praise (lately for letting women get behind the wheel) and are in fact the ones who radicalize the entire muslim diaspora in Europe and the US through their wahabi financed and run mosques and madrassas.
Would love to have a conversation about that.
Iran is behind the bombing of the Jewish centre in Buenos Aires. That’s some state-sponsored terrorism right there.
Just as one example.
They sponsor Hezbollah, for another excellent one.
What I would say is that Shiites in general are less into “lone-wolf” unorganised-style terrorism than are Sunnis.
The Buenos Aires attack is not proven to originate from Iran and I couldn’t care less about who supports Hezbollah because Hezbollah is not my enemy.
Your words concerning a “decapitation strike” with a “thermobaric bomb”, the way you characterize the Chinese EXACTLY along the MSM propaganda lines and your armchair strategy talk about “messing up the Iranians” are repugnant.
Dogma and militarism – whether it is yours or theirs will not get us out of the mess we’re in.
Whatever happened to the withdrawal from foreign military adventures? They only profit a few individuals and corporations. Your mainstream hate only grows their bank accounts.
My short story “Alas, Brave New Babylon” covers the aftermath of a complete grid collapse. The survivors literally never know what hit them, there are no experts on television to tell them.
https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2013/08/26/bracken-alas-brave-new-babylon/
Another great read from Mr. Bracken. Important advice nestled inside of a very interesting story.
But what if North Korea has nukes i US already?
In an oiltanker, bulkcarrier or container? Or a warehouse somewhere?
What if?
I hope the first hits kalifornia. then they can drain the swamp 1 kiloton at a time….
Look on the positive side, the culling will remove an awful lot of Liberals from the world. Petty Tyrants killed by Tyrants. We all keep clamoring for a reset, well here’s an opportunity. Avoid crowds and be ready.
Dav, I don’t think you have read Matt Bracken’s tale, nor any other information on the aftermath of an EMP attack. It would kill just as many conservatives as liberals. Very, very few people in this country have the skills, the tools and supplies, or the WILL to survive when there is no power at all. Even those of us who have planned and stocked up (including fuels) against the possibility would find it difficult. An infection from a minor cut could kill you almost as easily as a bullet.
And that doesn’t address the problem of fighting off looters, mauraders, or invaders, even just during the first couple of months after an attack. Sad to say, you wouldn’t be able to trust even your best neighbors when they – or their children – get hungry. Sharing your supplies with a few others might be possible, but you could be killed by a neighbor who didn’t even bother to ask. I live way out in the country, ten miles from the nearest town (pop. 800), and I have had strangers drive up my half-mile _obviously_ private road to my house.
Surviving, even with the best of planning and preparation, and the help of family and/or good neighbors, is not a sure thing.
A few thoughts:
As the Baron has pointed out, the Norks could have a HEMP aboard each of their two satellites in South to North orbits that they could detonate at any time. If our .gov was smart, they would take out these satellites now. For those who do not see how 90% of the US population could die within 12 months due to an EMP, read William Forshten’s ‘One Second After’.
The Chinese inner circle and military leadership feel that North America was actually meant to be theirs. They consider it an unjust accident of tim8ng that Europeans got here a mere 150 years ahead of them. They feel this injustice needs to be redressed. And EMP would emiminate 90% of Americans, and the other 10% would just require ‘mopping up’ by Chinese troops. Then they would have the room they need for the Chinese people to expand. These are not mere fantasies on their part. Thwy actually believe thwy are entirled to America and intend to possess it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unrestricted_Warfare
“is a book on military strategy written in 1999 by two colonels in the People’s Liberation Army, Qiao Liang (乔良) and Wang Xiangsui (王湘穗). Its primary concern is how a nation such as China can defeat a technologically superior opponent (such as the United States) through a variety of means.”
That includes terrorism and or other attacks (like EMP) carried out by other agents (North Korea, islamic terrorists, Iran, etc.) instigated by China, with the attackers not even aware of (or not caring about) the source of assistance or assets in carrying out the attack.
I don’t know what is going to happen, but I think we all know that something very awful is brewing. Can anyone else see the limitless possibilities of utter catastrophe this planet is currently facing?
I really don’t see the logic behind China attacking or invading the USA. We are still theircash cow-the biggest buyer of their goods. If we go down, all their US $ denominated assets go up in smoke. Plus who else in the world of economic significance would want
to do business with them after that. China has a hard enough time keeping things together in their own country.
If the US goes down that means many millions of Chinese people unemployed and restless – that’s the last thing they need. And you still have to deal with 2 other nuclear powers who dislike each other-India & Pakistan. I don’t think the Chinese want to deal with a worldwide disruption of things unless their goal is to re-populate the USA with a couple hundred million Chinese citizens after an EMP attack, but that would take decades of rebuilding an infrastructure to support that.
Marco, if China is prepared to move millions of unemployed citizens to the US on container ships or other means, they could reduce the current stress on their economy and infrastructures and simultaneously have them take over agricultural land in California, initially farming with mass-produced cheap tractors and other farming equipment. I don’t know what might be involved in getting refineries (in both California and Washington State) back online, but I can easily imagine China does know.
From what I have read, China is running out of (or already has) arable land. It would be an enormous help to China if they could take over land undamaged by radioactivity from conventional nuclear weapons. Getting thing running again when they _haven’t_ been damaged in the same way we would be, could be a fairly easy task for them. And they have the industries to make simple farming equipment that would not be damaged by EMP – they have been making simple diesel engines, generators, tractors, etc. for many years.
The EMP threat from North Korea is overblown hype. Worry more about activity from the Sun.
“The higher you detonate a nuclear device, the greater the blast radius. However, the effect of the EMP will be less. Likewise, the smaller the explosive yield, the smaller the EMP and the closer the blast will need to be to the ground to be effective.
Finding that detonation sweet-spot in the Earth’s atmosphere will take countless tests … which no one has done.”
https://medium.com/war-is-boring/the-overrated-threat-from-electromagnetic-pulses-46e92c3efeb9
“According to data from the EMP Commission, the conventional wisdom may be wrong, or at least not entirely correct. In a study released in 2004, the EMP Commission subjected 37 different cars and trucks to simulated EMP attacks and found that none of them suffered permanent, crippling damage, although the results were somewhat mixed.
The study subjected vehicles to simulated EMP attacks both while shut off and while running, and it found that none of the vehicles suffered any ill effects if the attack occurred while the engine was off. When the attack occurred while the vehicles were running, some of them shut off, while others suffered other effects like erroneously blinking dash lights.
Although some of the engines did die when subjected to an EMP, each of the passenger cars tested by the EMP Commission did start back up.
The study finding suggested that 90 percent of the cars on the road in 2004 would suffer no ill effects at all from an EMP, while 10 percent would either stall out or suffer some other ill effect that would require driver intervention. That number has no doubt gone up in the intervening decade, since there are more cars on the road today that make use of delicate electronics, but none of the vehicles tested by the EMP commission suffered permanent damage.”
https://www.lifewire.com/would-your-car-survive-an-emp-attack-3903248
Read the deagal report,they plan on killing nearly all americans and totally wiping out a north Korea,they will blame North Korea when they destroy our power grid..be prepared
Please source your claims.
Just thinking about that 1850 year…. Seems like we would regress further back than 1850 as we in general do not have steam power or metal working to fall back on at that level. Some folks that work with that sort of old tech as a hobby will do well as a living….We are in big trouble in the event of a EMP being set off. I doubt that my solar PV system would survive a pulse here in NC.
Even if your own solar array survived, it would be in isolation from the wider chaos of no access to petrol, to agricultural goods, etc. There are no more islands.
You forgot about the invasion that will come after. Your enemies will LOVE to take you out thinking you are the world’s ill.
Many of you will be hunted down. You brought this upon yourself. Fell for the [Democrat] plan to finally put a BOOT on your disgusting necks.
Demoncraps never liked you anyway and you should have realized that back in 1913 when they turned America over like a roast chicken and burned up your Constitution.
Now you’ll be forced to speak Swahili, Chinese, Russian, and Arab. The diversity and multi-culturalism [Democrats] always wished upon you.
The Baron said: “All they need is one EMP detonated in our skies (over the East Coast, where lies most of our outdated electrical infrastructure) to send the continent back to say, 1850…and that will mean ninety percent of our population gone within six months or less.”
500kT in Low Earth Orbit or stratosphere re-entry point over Liberal Kansas and ‘Hello! 1700!”
Sorry, that should say Dymphna wrote…..
Sadly, this has been known for such a long, long time… http://www.heritage.org/homeland-security/report/the-lights-go-out-survey-emp-preparedness-reveals-significant-shortfalls Read One Second After for some insights on possible scenarios after lights out. Whether it be NK or some other threat, this is something that could be prevented.