25 thoughts on “Winners Are Losers, Losers Are Winners”

1. You get better all the time. I can’t know how much research your essays take, but they are more informative for non-Dutch than anything else we can read (though that essay from years ago by Arthur Legger was mighty fine. It was from reading him and then you, that I found there really is a wonderfully mordant sense of humor in the Netherlands. Or maybe just in the expatriates. And you both see the problems so clearly).

   As for colonel Mustard with a candlestick in the library…well, I agree on the villain. But I think the good Colonel was in the kitchen making sausage – the sausage whose recipe you have herein described.

   Again, my gratitude for your willingness to share your political acumen.

   • Would this be one of Bismarck’s sausages, Dymphna?

     • Indeed. Especially his custom-made welfare state sausage. It seemed like such a good idea at the time.

2. This is what democracy looks like, a rudderless ship. Regions, municipalities, whatever you like to call them should have more autonomy. But if that option isn’t available people need to march unto the streets and use force, or be at the mercy of overzealous politicians who do not see the insanity of their political platforms.

   • people need to march unto the streets and use force

     So are you actually going to do this? If you’re not planning on a revolution, it’s pointless to prescribe it as a solution to anyhing. But if you do intend purposeful action, could you send us notice after the fact and we will cover the story for you. Gladly. However, I should point out the extent to which Tommy Robinson’s life was ruined for speaking in public. What you’re planning to do would get you into much more trouble. You could get the sugar napalm treatment after they put you away.

     I hope you have a goodly number of loyal followers willing to march behind you since the state is very large and far more well-armed than its people. And it’s no democracy. Or rather it’s a totalitarian democracy.

     Besides, municipalities in the Netherlands already have more autonomy than they do in most other countries. That is, if I’ve read my H. Numan essays correctly. I don’t see that it makes much difference.

     Most governments in Europe are totalitarian democracies and have been for generations. That’s how cradle-to-grave socialism works. Government says “here, take this security. In exchange, we get your soul, so be careful what you say, or do, or accidentally drop on the ground”. This careful silence is a price many are willing to pay in exchange for being taken care of…until the money runs out. I don’t blame Europeans for being cautious. Thousands of years of internecine war would tend to do make people cautious and or indifferent.

     Not that America isn’t headed there, too. After the Republic founders, we’ll be every bit as balkanized but since we’re not as civilized, it will be far bloodier.

     • people need to march unto the streets and use force

       “So are you actually going to do this?”

       Maybe I have already 😉

       When I say “force”, something like 100,000 man army appears in your minds eye. But in reality small communities have gotten together to repudiate (with force) and with great success the cultural retardation of their societies.

       For example in Geldermalsen (Netherlands), community members prevented the construction of a refugee center with what the media would call “mob violence” or what we would call “resistance”.

       The point is, that kind of resistance WORKS even if it is just localized, you are damned if you do and damned if you don’t.

       • Thank you! Yes, such action will be condemned by those in authority and their feckless followers.

         Congratulations for your effort. The Baron probably already has the news about Geldermalsen in his daily newsfeeds somewhere, but just in case he doesn’t, do you have a link? My intermittent “health” doesn’t allow me to read everything.

         Even if you have the link only in Dutch, that’s good enough.

     • Be advised:
       The sheer number of (JUST) hunters (presumably armed, somewhat trained in those arms, and reasonably fit) who take to the field each year in ONLY a handful of States in the good ‘ol U, S, of A………

       ……..exceeds the TOTAL number of available soldiers (not just the infantry) in the armies of NATO, USA, Russia, and a buncha other whole COUNTRIES.

       “Just say’in”.

       (Yeah, their armor is great stuff–but you frequently have to exit it in order to fill the gas tank, or take a leak…………..)

       • You should see it around here during the first week of hunting season: all along the roadsides, large groups of men wearing orange vests and carrying rifles. Armed men (and women) are an everyday, ho-hum sight.

         Suburban snowflakes would go apoplectic over such “assault weapons”, but their presence reassures me. Most ordinary people out here in Bigfoot County lack any coherent political philosophy, but they are deeply, instinctively libertarian. Firearms are just part of that culture.

         • Baron,

           I presume you are aware that if all these hunters and gun-fanciers rose en-masse to confront the government forces, the hunters would be massacred. It’s organization, technology and logistics that wins open confrontations.

           There is a vital place for armed citizens, but it’s not confronting the military or security forces, which is suicidal. It’s to protect neighborhoods and individuals against street gang violence and anarchy. The street gangs, however useful to the government, cannot be openly supported by the government and are vulnerable to citizen resistance. Hence the tremendous push by the left for disarmament.

         • That’s not my point. These people are not politically-minded — they’re not going to stage an insurrection. They’re simply armed, and that’s the norm around here.

           What this means is that local governments do not engage in intrusive, illiberal, coercive behavior as a routine matter. Simple prudence tells them to treat the citizenry with a least minimal respect.

           The Feds are another matter entirely. Thank God we don’t see much of them out here in Deliverance territory.

     • The problem with using force is that it is a common denominator that can be used by anyone without a bit of intelligent justification. Generally, when you still have a majority being one ethnicity or identity group, calling for the use of force is intended to make up for a political or bureaucratic arrangement that is fundamentally flawed.

       Note that Communists and cultural Marxists are joined to the hip with the use of force, because they depend on blind instinct and mindless adherence for their success.

       My suggestion is that when you’re tempted to prescribe force, you instead look at your options to organize around a common identity and interest, and explore how you can exert pressure to advance your interests. I might add that Muslims and other identity groups exert enormous political pressure simply by more-or-less voting as a bloc to support identity interest groups such as CAIR. Why not take their success as a lesson?

       • We did. The Tea Party – or Parties – have been openly persecuted by our tax collectors. Why did the IRS need to be supplied with guns, do you suppose?

         The Tea Parties have had some success, especially with legislative initiatives. The most powerful Republican in the House was given the boot, replaced by an economics professor because he ignored the repeated pleas of his constituents re stricter immigration laws. He was part of the RINO collaborators like Paul Ryan. T.P. lost against Ryan’s expensively organized pushback, despite the high wall around his own home. But Mr. Nehland, his opponent, hasn’t given up yet. More on him at another time.

3. So be it. I wrote Western Europe off 10 years ago. The dye is cast and poison will take another 10 years till the muzz gain king maker voting bloc’s in major Dutch cities.

   After that – game, set and match to Allah.

   • They already are the “King Makers”. They voted for Macron. Why do you think UKIP kicked out several of us that warned about the Islamic threat, that included MEP Bloom? He had a good old fashioned sense of humour too (Bongo-Bongo Land?). He made me laugh till it hurt my sides. My black wife thought him “great” and laughed too.

     UKIP courted the Moslem Bloc vote, as all UK parties now do. Corbyn could well become PM allied with the Pensioner bloc vote after May’s silly statements about pensions and Winter Fuel Allowances.

     I am still hoping that sometime that around mid Summer to late, matters will finally implode in EU and bring together a Perfect Storm and a European Spring of the Right kind. The French Election was rigged as were most of the others across EU, the “Elite” are so desperate to retain power at all costs. 20,000,000 votes were eliminated or “spoiled” across the Republique.

     I went to Paris recently- A city I know well- utterly ruined and trashed. Migrants from Africa idling the days away and fighting among them selves or the Police. Women dare not wander out alone and even when accompanied by myself, my wife was continually harassed in my presence. We left the same evening. Central Paris is now a “No-Go” Zone.

     http://pamelageller.com/2017/05/whats-missing-streets-france-women-police-unable-restore-safety.html/

     http://www.leparisien.fr/paris-75018/harcelement-les-femmes-chassees-des-rues-dans-le-quartier-chapelle-pajol-18-05-2017-6961779.php

     Everybody is fed up and angry. Same in Italy with these culturally enriching vagrants. Who is going to vote for a known Islamophile with links to Moslem groups and wants full on immigration? The Parisians are far from daft. This situation cannot continue.

     The situation across France and Germany is incredibly volatile. NATO is importing US troops in scores ostensibly for “defence against Russia”. What rot! The US will not tolerate a nuclear armed Islamic France and Merkel is faithful to her orders. I would suggest the NATO troops are there for internal unrest and this is why the EU “Army” is now under way…..

     • “The US will not tolerate a nuclear armed Islamic France…”
       Would that this were true.

       “I would suggest the NATO troops are there for internal unrest…”

       I was hoping that with a Trump presidency, US troops would not be available for the suppression of the European population, but like many of Trump’s promises, that seems to have evaporated.

       I’m afraid if fighting arises on a massive scale, and organized factions appear, it will be the native Europeans who are suppressed by the EU and NATO forces. The US tolerates and even funds a nuclear-armed Pakistan, so why not a nuclear-armed, Islamic France?

       The model for this thinking is, of course, the wars in Bosnia and Kosovo. The Serbian forces, representative of native Europeans, were winning hands-down when bombed into submission by NATO forces. I think in any internal unrest, left to their own devices, the national army and native citizens will prevail. I’m not so sure what intervention by NATO will do, but I’m not optimistic.

       • “I’m not so sure what intervention by NATO will do, but I’m not optimistic.”
         Nor should you be, look who leads NATO, one who couldn’t wait to hug and slobber over moslems after the Utøya massacre, who welcomed the enemy into his unprepared country.
         But as you point out, NATO had already shown their colours under different leadership in Bosnia and Kosovo.

         As the Bishop implied; what a mess.

         • The bombing of Serbia made me so angry, but I was only a child at the time. I cannot believe that we bombed them even on Pascha (Easter).

4. This sounds like a rerun of the Belgium crisis a decade or so ago, when the country was without a government for over a year.

5. “The Dutch electorate may be moving to the right slowly,” … maybe, but not fast enough before the tipping point arrives and it is game over. The immigration problem is irreversible. Migrants/asylum seekers who have no intention assimilating into Dutch society are there to stay. Consider them colonists. New mosques bloom. For those who understand their meaning it is like looking at Munch’s painting “The Scream”.

   The Dutch electorate like their American counterparts vote the same idiots into government over and over. No one is learning from their mistakes. This year majority of the Dutch voted safe. They are afraid of the change a Geert Wilders might bring. And they will continue to vote safe until the problem of immigration and the dictatorial EU takes full control of their vacuous lives, and even then some are too dumb to understand what that means , no matter how elevated their education.

   The operational term here for the migrant issue is self-abnegation: the denial of one’s own interests in favor of the interests of others. Citizens who live in societies that believe this have little to no chance at survival at all. Those who are reading this today, in 2017, will no longer be alive when The Netherlands will no longer exist as a country.

   The few Dutch electorate in one medium sized village I had conversations with had no idea what classical liberalism meant. I think the Dutch like the rest of the Europeans have lost their will to survive. The history of Old Europe, with all its traditions and values, and all it’s Judeo-Christian origins are not taught in the schools. The reading lists at universities omit other perspectives.

   • “The operational term here for the migrant issue is self-abnegation”

     I’m beginning to feel that altruism, rather than simply being a misguided denial of the self, is actually a desperate plea for survival by someone who feels unwilling, or unable, to actually exert himself for his own survival. He uses altruism as a plea to his enemy that it’s worthwhile for his enemy to keep him alive, rather than simply killing him and stealing his property.

     So, altruism is the province of the coward. The government wolves highly encourage the altruism of the sheep; by all means, the populace must be kept feeling helpless through stringent gun control. Gun control doesn’t make it possible to fight the government armies, but it does encourage the helpless feeling leading to the altruism necessary for a socialist government of surrender.

6. That`s also a sign of defective democracies: the voters’ will doesn’t get displayed (I hope I use the right term?) through the vote or ballot.
   Mostly because political parties have corrupted the system.

   Only an effective direct democracy could bring a turn for the better.

   • Astuga, there may be a right number of people voting in a direct democracy which would produce a fair result. But millions of people? Can’t work. Look at the second volume of de Tocqueville’s book on Democracy in America. He had it right.

     There was a company in the US which made Gore-Tex jackets, not a high-tech proposition. They found that when any given plant went over sixty people, problems began. So they’d start up a new plant. I don’t know if they’re still in existence, but Babson Institute used their business model as a case study of “when small works”.

     • Hm, depends on what system of direct democracy is in use.
       It seems to work fine in Switzerland.
       But what is forgotten to mention often is that this direct political participation of the citizens is not limited to nation wide ballots (fe. against minarets on mosques) but runs through every level of local, state wide and nation wide politics.
       Afaik you in the US have something similar on the local political level with the traditional town meetings.

       • In contrast to Switzerland one can name Austria, were the instruments of direct democracy don`t work (plebiscite – bottom up and survey – top down).
         Instead they get either slated or dumped by the Government.

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