Changing Swedish Attitudes Towards Immigration, Part 2

The segment below is the second of two parts of an in-depth report on immigration from Swedish television. It’s fascinating to hear the immigrants themselves describe their refusal to integrate into Swedish society, as well as their cynical, deliberate, and successful efforts to scam the “Swedish for immigrants” language course.

Many thanks to The Observer for the translation, and to Vlad Tepes for the subtitling:

Part 1 is here.

Transcript:

00:00   Few countries in Europe have welcomed more refugees and immigrants
00:04   than Sweden in the last twenty years.
00:08   And we believed that we would become world champions at integration.
00:12   I wonder how many people in Sweden would concur with this statement today.
00:18   Are you idiots?
00:22   People like you. Go back home!
00:28   What are you doing here? Living on our welfare!
00:35   SFI – Swedish for immigrants. It has been the main instrument for integrating foreigners.
00:43   Our reporter Lina Makhoul has taken a closer look at SFI to see if it is working
00:47   the way it was intended.
00:57   A few months ago, I met Ali, who is studying at SFI, Swedish for immigrants.
01:02   He told me that his goal was to remain at SFI for as many years as possible.
01:09   I did not understand what he meant: why would anyone want to remain at SFI?
01:14   That was until he told me why.
01:25   Ali told me that he intends to remain at SFI for as long as possible to secure a regular income.
01:29   So he deliberately flunks the exams
01:33   I talked with several other people who also rely upon Ali’s method.
01:36   No one wants to be interview on ‘Uppdrag Granskning’ [Swedish investigative TV program].
01:39   One woman told me that it is the man’s responsibility to provide for his family.
01:43   She has never worked in her own country and she doesn’t intend to work here either.
01:46   Instead, she will remain at SFI for as long as possible.
01:50   Another person I spoke with thinks that Sweden is a stupid country
01:53   for paying people to learn Swedish.
01:56   He has scammed the system for two years now and he will continue to do so as long as he can.
02:02   I’ve almost given up finding someone who is willing to talk about the scam on TV,
02:06   when a schoolmate of Ali’s agrees to be interviewed.
02:10   I heard about it and saw it many times myself at school.
02:15   People living on welfare because they don’t have a job.
02:21   They receive welfare benefits as long as they are learning the language.
02:25   When they are supposed to sit the exams to make it to the next level,
02:31   they deliberately choose to fail, or don’t bother to show up.
02:36   They want to remain at SFI for as long as possible because of the money.
02:42   How do they get away with this?
02:45   If I have to sit an exam tomorrow
02:48   I can just simply not show up for it
02:54   You’re not required to sit the exam the next day?
02:59   No, you are not required to sit it again for another month or even longer.
03:02   And after a month you just have to say that you are unprepared.
03:08   How do you know about all this?
03:11   I used to live amongst these people. I heard and saw everything with my own eyes.
03:19   Why do you think they cheat?
03:23   If you live in a country where you receive money without working,
03:29   why would you want to work? They receive between SEK 8000 – 10 000 per month.
03:36   Hello, my name is Lina. I work for SVT. I’m making a program about SFI.
03:40   Do you speak Swedish? No, I want to speak Arabic.
03:47   The girl with the black hijab is Hibba. She has been living in Sweden for almost six years.
03:52   The one with the bright blue is called Huddah. She has been living here for eleven years.
03:58   Huddah and Hibba understand only a few words in Swedish. They have never worked in Sweden.
04:04   There are rumors circulating that people chose to have children because of the money.
04:10   And it’s true.
04:13   There are people here because of the money and there are people here who have fled.
04:18   We also watched a heated debate between Bert Karlsson and former Folkeparti leader,
04:22   Bengt Westerberg.
04:25   Yesterday I brought them back together again.
04:30   Spontaneously, fifteen years later, what do you say?
04:35   Yes, I could say that I was right, but at the same time that would also be an erroneous statement.
04:40   It is not an easy question, but it is obvious one that we have to properly address very soon.
04:44   Was Bert right?
04:48   About what? What these reports shows us is that we have an integration problem.
04:54   And we have had it for many years, and I think that if we were to pass a judgment
04:58   on Swedish integration policy,
05:01   it would have to be that we haven’t reached our goals. That is very obvious.
05:05   But isn’t there a possibility that we have neglected these attitudes?
05:08   It’s of course hard to say what is representative, but then again it’s not hard
05:11   to find stories like these in Sweden.
05:14   But you cannot say that I neglected these attitudes, or that I did it back then.
05:17   If there was anyone who was willing to take up the debate with these people, then it was me.
05:20   But Bengt, your point of view at that time was that they were always wrong.
05:23   We were never correct…
05:26   I realized that we simply couldn’t allow that many people to come here to Sweden.
05:34   It is impossible because if we do then we have to take care of them, and we haven’t
05:37   managed to do that. I even saw it with my own eyes.
05:40   At the time when we discussed these issues there were five ghetto-like areas in Sweden,
05:43   today there are more than 100. And I am of the opinion that something has gone terribly wrong.
05:48   I don’t believe that we let in too many. I believe that it was a dilemma that we were forced
05:51   to set a limit, like we did.
05:54   But I agree that we have integration problems in Sweden.
05:58   But Bert, did you not trivialize hostility to immigrants by discussing these issues
06:02   in very negative terms?
06:05   It can of course be perceived that way at certain times, I agree with you there.
06:08   It is very difficult to discuss this issue.
06:11   A wrong word and everything goes haywire.
06:14   I know it can be dangerous, but the problem is that we weren’t allowed to talk about it at all.
06:17   But now we’re in a situation where we stand the chance of getting an immigrant-hostile party
06:20   in parliament after the next election.
06:22   Yes, they are guaranteed to get in.
06:25   Who is responsible for that?
06:27   Bengt should take the responsibility for that. Of course. Because he’s was the one
06:30   who tried so hard to kill the debate.
06:31   And it has been standing still for a long time now.
06:34   So then I must also take credit for the fact that 98 percent don’t support them?
06:37   I went on an organized trip to Romania and I started chatting to four Yugoslavs.
06:40   They were working at the Volvo plant.
06:43   We talked a little bit about politics and such, and I asked them what party they voted for?
06:46   And they told me that they voted for the Sweden Democrats. I asked them why.
06:49   They told me that all the other political parties didn’t want to listen to what they had to say.
06:52   The political parties simply don’t listen to anything at all when it comes to these issues.
06:55   Nor do they listen when we immigrants have anything to say.
06:57   So this is an issue that both immigrants and Swedes agreed upon, that is those immigrants
07:00   who have been integrated into our society.
07:03   Because they feel that they are being stigmatized because of all the bad things that those
07:07   who abuse the system do. And that is dangerous.
07:10   No society is vaccinated against hostility towards immigrants. We can observe that
07:13   in the nations surrounding us.
07:15   We can even see it here in Sweden.
07:18   Ny Demokrati’s entry into Swedish politics in the ’90s was a sign of that, and it can happen again.
07:23   Did you exaggerate when you compared Bert with Hitler?
07:26   What I said was that the Hitler blamed all the social problems on the Jews,
07:30   and what the leader of Ny Demokrati did
07:34   was to blame all the social problems on the immigrants.
07:38   I can’t recall what Bert said in the rest of the debate, but in the little segment that we just saw
07:42   you could hear him saying that immigration worsened the situation for the elderly.
07:47   The money that we use on immigration are taken from other budgets, that’s a given.
07:50   We end up with fewer resources.
07:53   I can only speak for myself. During the time that I was a politician and even in the time since,
07:59   I have never avoided these kinds of debates.
08:02   I am more than willing to take up this debate.
08:05   Yes, you did, but you always debated according to your own personal opinions.
08:07   And what do you base your arguments on when you debate this issue?
08:10   Yes, but it’s also important to listen. Yes, but I do listen.
08:14   Yes, but there are very few politicians who are willing to admit that they did something wrong.
08:18   Imagine if that happened once in a while…
08:21   I have made many mistakes. Haven’t you made any mistakes?
08:24   Yes, absolutely. I make mistakes all the time. That’s how you learn.
08:27   If we refer to politicians as a collective unit, I think we can conclude that
08:30   the integration policy has failed.
08:33   I don’t believe that we’ve done enough to help immigrants enter the labor market,
08:37   to ensure that they learn Swedish and receive a fair chance here in Sweden.
08:40   Nor have the politicians done enough to create the necessary dialogue where
08:44   we can discuss religious and cultural differences.
08:47   Ok, gentlemen thank you very much. Thank you.
08:51   What do you think of the high level of immigration into Alvestad?
08:56   I think it has been too high.
08:59   You find it troublesome?
09:02   Yes, I guess you might say that. Yes, it seem like they own Alvestad now.
09:09   They keep pouring in. In stores and everywhere, there are many foreigners here.
09:14   Yes, I think it has gone too far. Way too far.
09:18   One has to consider the Swedes a little bit more, both in terms of jobs and everything else.
09:24   If a foreigner who doesn’t know anything arrives, then a Swede should get it.
09:29   At least that’s what I think.

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5 thoughts on “Changing Swedish Attitudes Towards Immigration, Part 2

  1. Europe and Russia had 11,000,000 Jews in 1942 – see Wansee Konferenz. They mistreated, ghettoized, massacred and then exterminated its most productive citizens: its Jews. The remaining Jews emigrated after WWII at various times leaving very few Jews.

    Europe then invited in 10 million Muslims who hate Europe, hate Europeans and as seen here rip off Europe’s taxpayers while governing Socialists are pandering for the Muslim vote. Europe was Christian, but now its people act like eloi. There is no deep spark of culture and identity as Westerners among the majority.

    It will end with a whimper.

    • Yet, some people have the chutzpah to call the Swedish elite Jewish, Polish Jews to be precise. Even if they would be in a pure ethnic sense, they have internalized Muslim Anti-Semitism. The sister of Jens Stoltenberg hides her crypto-Islam behind a Star of David . Not just Christian societies are infiltrated.

  2. “its most productive citizens” – Why is it so easy to believe and say that Jews were and are the most productive citizens of Europe and Russia? Indeed, Jews “holocausted” a lot of Christians in Russia. The left loves Muslim immigrants, and the right loves Jewish immigrants. Who is to love Christians? Christians were and are the most productive citizens of Europe and Russia – and the United States.

    • Sure buddy. Where exactly did “the Jews Holocaust a lot of Christians”? Nowhere – that’s where. A large part of the success of Jewish people has been the tight integration of their faith and culture. Success breeds jealousy to be exploited by kings, popes and politicians thoughout history.

      Christians – not so much. Christianity’s openness has allowed hedonism, atheism, agnosticism and dumb-ass converts to Islam. That is a strength and a weakness. But under Islam people get the message when apostates are put to death – and everyone buckle down/shuts up for their own survival.

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